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100F water temp?

#1 Postby txwatcher91 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:33 pm

I saw this water temp near the FL coast while looking at buoys and thought it was very interesting! I do not know if it is bad data or what, but 100F water is very hot!

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Re: 100F water temp?

#2 Postby 'CaneFreak » Tue Jun 26, 2007 9:49 pm

Its bogus...I wouldn't read into it too much...I dont know that a 100 degree water temp has ever been measured or that a SST change has been that great over such a short period of time:)
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Re: 100F water temp?

#3 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:01 pm

Probably washed ashore....
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Re: 100F water temp?

#4 Postby Duddy » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:03 pm

You sound like a skeptic off a weather movie.

"It's probably nothing" :ggreen:
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Re: 100F water temp?

#5 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:19 pm

Duddy wrote:You sound like a skeptic off a weather movie.

"It's probably nothing" :ggreen:


lol :lol:
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Re: 100F water temp?

#6 Postby vbhoutex » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:26 pm

The only other thing I could think of is an upwelling of some sort. Not likely though IMO.
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#7 Postby CrazyC83 » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:35 pm

100 degree water (if there is no shear or dry air) can turn a blob into a Katrina very quickly...
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#8 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:40 pm

Most likely the thermometer measuring the
water temperatures washed ashore
and got heated up by the sun...
now seeing water temperature
readings around 90-93 F wouldn't
be unheard of...
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Re: 100F water temp?

#9 Postby Ptarmigan » Tue Jun 26, 2007 11:31 pm

It's got to be a mistake. If it was real, we could get some monsterous hurricanes or God forbid a hypercane.
:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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#10 Postby Scorpion » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:10 am

I'm sure that 100 degree water temps are possible in the Persian Gulf or the northern GOM
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#11 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:15 am

Scorpion wrote:I'm sure that 100 degree water temps are possible in the Persian Gulf or the northern GOM


The Persian Gulf gets close to 100 degrees.
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#12 Postby Chacor » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:20 am

Ptarmigan wrote:
Scorpion wrote:I'm sure that 100 degree water temps are possible in the Persian Gulf or the northern GOM


The Persian Gulf gets close to 100 degrees.


Much too much dry air though.
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#13 Postby Ptarmigan » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:22 am

Chacor wrote:
Much too much dry air though.


Oh yeah. It's a desert in that area.
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Re: 100F water temp?

#14 Postby pup55 » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:12 am

Note that the supposed reading occurred at 1:14 AM. Also note that even at mid day, the water temp exceeded the air temp.

The thermocouple is out of calibration.
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Re: 100F water temp?

#15 Postby Aslkahuna » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:39 am

The Persian Gulf is a desert not because of the lack of moisture in the lower levels (they have the highest average Summer dewpoints in the World to go with the SSTs) but because of intense capping from subsidence and very warm air aloft from the Subtropical High. Yuma and SoCA Deserts from Needles south often see dewpoints in the high 70's and low 80's and they frequently get no rain from that moisture for the same reason. In order to see activity under those conditions one needs some source of dynamics to provide lift which in the case of Yuma is frequently a MCV or wave disturbance that has crossed Mexico from the GOM.

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#16 Postby feederband » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:51 am

103.5 now....Volcano? :lol:
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#17 Postby O Town » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:37 am

feederband wrote:103.5 now....Volcano? :lol:

Or a bad case of the flu. He should go see a doctor about that. Down to 101.8
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Re: 100F water temp?

#18 Postby Dionne » Wed Jun 27, 2007 6:54 am

42014 is a USF buoy. Alot of their buoys are down. Check the adjacent buoys. None of them are recording water temps that high. It's an instrumentation problem.
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Re: 100F water temp?

#19 Postby 'CaneFreak » Wed Jun 27, 2007 7:45 am

Dionne wrote:42014 is a USF buoy. Alot of their buoys are down. Check the adjacent buoys. None of them are recording water temps that high. It's an instrumentation problem.


Thanks for the confirmation. :lol:
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Re: 100F water temp?

#20 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:14 am

if that 100F was true (and it likely is not), it means NOTHING.


The depth of the warm water (heat content) is a better oceanic variable to examine. A very thin SST layer does not help very much (see the Northern GOM)
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