Tropical wave in Atlantic,East of islands,the next invest?

[punkyg]

This tropical wave i'm interested in, because 96L is gone and theres is nothing to watch.
This could become 97L if dry air and wind shear don't get to it.

...TROPICAL WAVES...
A BROAD TROPICAL WAVE IS TILTED ALONG 15N30W TO 5N35W MOVING W
10-15 KT. THIS WAVE CONTINUES TO HAVE A LARGE ENVELOPE OF LOW TO
MID LEVEL CYCLONIC TURNING AND IS CAUSING A LARGE POLEWARD
PERTURBATION IN THE ITCZ. DESPITE ITS LARGE SIZE...SHOWER AND
TSTM ACTIVITY REMAINS MINIMAL AND DISORGANIZED

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/vis-l.jpg

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/GOES1 ... 6FFDpH.jpg

[Nimbus]

I saw that this morning on the central Atlantic loop. Looks like an LLC may form near 8N similar to 96L. There is a little more moisture for 97L but its still a little dry out there.

[punkyg]

I'm so excited!
We could get a tropical system out of this wave even though
we all know it ain't gonna develop,but atleast we got
something to watch.

[Normandy]

Meh.
Not interested.
A good case study for this wave is 96L.

[canegrl04]

Come on,Chantal! Show yourself

[punkyg]

Come on,Chantal! Show yourself

I hope she comes out from hiding soon
cause i'm suffering from hurricane headaches oooh i feel so weak.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Quickscats shown 96L had a well defined LLC with 30-35 knot winds. Tuesday night-Wednesday was when it looked good. It was a depression if not a weak tropical storm. But yeah we get a few of these every year.

As for this its a wait and see.

[Normandy]

^Thats pure speculation.
You have no clues/evidence that 96L was a depression, much less a TS. The NHC didn't name it for good reason.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

^Thats pure speculation.
You have no clues/evidence that 96L was a depression, much less a TS. The NHC didn't name it for good reason.

Quickscats prove it. Also satellite shown convection right over the LLC for over 12-18 hours what pure speculation? Barry never had convection over its LLC for more then a few hours. But its all speculation...I highly don't think so,.

[Normandy]

Barry had recon to prove its winds, and even Barry looked better than 96L (which looked like junk all its life).

[cpdaman]

it would appear to be more than speculation thanks to quikscat

but if a storm is not a threat to land at all and does not appear to be strengthening further (over 40 mph), there will not name it when it is so far out in the atlantic

ask a promet, they will agree with the basic sentiment

and you don't need recon to prove winds, you need recon to get more up to date information of winds (more than the every 12 or 24 hours that quikscat updates) also recon picks up more than just winds including pressure

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Barry had recon to prove its winds, and even Barry looked better than 96L (which looked like junk all its life).

You can't be serious? Barry had convection over its LLC about 2 hours. Yeah it had a warm core=tropical cyclone. But 96L had a strong LLC for about 2+ days with convection fully over it for over 12-18 hours. Quickscat support for a LLC near or under that convection. Tell me what makes you say that tuesday night into Wednesday that it looked worst then Barry? I think Barry was a tropical storm in fact but 96L looked more classic then barry.

Of course Barry had recon, but 96L still looked good at its prime.

[Normandy]

Look im not going to get into an argument with u over a system a silly as 96L. All it was during its life was a circulation that was composed of stratocumuli clouds with some modest (at BEST) convection. You can call it Chantal if you want to, but in my book it was just another pathetic invest. Andrea AND Barry both looked better than 96L, which is why they were named Andrea and Barry and which is why 96L is now just a measly little wave running into SA.

[HUC]

There is in fact the broad circulation;but,the environnement is dry,the water not so hot....and the east carribean need RAIN,please,please....

[cpdaman]

IF 96 L was in the GULF and had the same strength that it did over the open atlantic it would have been named.

this is what i am saying. that's all. do you disagree with this?

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

IF 96 L was in the GULF and had the same strength that it did over the open atlantic it would have been named.

this is what i am saying. that's all. do you disagree with this?

I hundred percent agree with that. Also it was not stratoform clouds Tuesday night-Wednesday. It had minus 60-70 cloud tops.

[Normandy]

No its not a sure thing it would have been named.

Ive seen PLENTY of disturbances in the gulf (One hit the Texas coast a couple years back and everyone was SCREAMING for it to be named) that looked a whoooooooooooole lot better than pathetic 96L. No matter how you guys cut it, this thing was unimpressive, sorry. And im done, lets stop getting off topic. Its dumb.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

No its not a sure thing it would have been named.

Ive seen PLENTY of disturbances in the gulf (One hit the Texas coast a couple years back and everyone was SCREAMING for it to be named) that looked a whoooooooooooole lot better than pathetic 96L. No matter how you guys cut it, this thing was unimpressive, sorry. And im done, lets stop getting off topic. Its dumb.

How is discussing tropics? Really I remember that distrabance, it did not have quickscats showing a LLC. In fact it only had a mid level cirulation...So it was not any where near as organized as 96L. Unimpressive? Did you see it Tuesday night-Wednesday very well defined LLC with convection over its top. That is not unimpressive...Looked more classic then any other system we have seen since 2006.

[Normandy]

Matt im not arguing with you about this anymore, there really isnt any point to it, we will just keep going in circles about what constitutes being impressive and what doesnt.

[cycloneye]

Hello Matt and Normandy.The topic of this thread is about a wave in the Central Atlantic and not about Barry or 96L.Let's replie about the wave that the author of this thread wants to discuss.