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Wave East of Windward Islands

#1 Postby cycloneye » Mon Sep 17, 2007 2:00 pm

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http://www.sat.dundee.ac.uk/registerql.html

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To get the image above,you can register for free at link above and get the full disk images.

I know that is getting very late for the East Atlantic to have anything to develop,but it doesnt hurt anyone,if we watch this new wave that looks interesting now,but may look worse as time goes by.However,for now lets see what it does in the comming days.

TROPICAL WAVE WAS ADDED TO THE 17/1200 UTC MAP ALONG 18W/19W S
OF 16N...ESTIMATED TO BE MOVING W NEAR 10-15 KT. AS NOTED IN THE
PREVIOUS DISCUSSION...THE WAVE PASSAGE WAS EVIDENT IN THE RECENT
DAKAR RAOB DATA. THE FEATURE ALSO SHOWS UP WELL AS A LOW
AMPLITUDE MOISTURE SURGE ON THE UW-CIMSS TPW PRODUCT. THE
ASSOCIATED...DISORGANIZED SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS
PUSHING AWAY FROM THE AFRICAN COAST FROM 5N-12N BETWEEN 17W
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#2 Postby Gustywind » Mon Sep 17, 2007 7:10 pm

000
AXNT20 KNHC 172249
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 PM EDT MON SEP 17 2007

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...THE GULF OF MEXICO...THE CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN
SECTIONS OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE
AFRICAN COAST FROM THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION
IS BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...
WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...AND RADAR.

BASED ON 1800 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
2215 UTC.

...TROPICAL WAVES...
TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 19W/20W S OF 16N MOVING W NEAR 10 KT. MID
LEVEL INVERTED-V CURVATURE WITH ANY SHOWER ACTIVITY EMBEDDED
WITHIN THE ITCZ.
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Re: New Wave in East Atlantic

#3 Postby cycloneye » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:49 am

8 AM TWD from TPC.

TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 21W S OF 16N MOVING W NEAR 10 KT. AT 850
MB...THERE IS A BROAD CYCLONIC CIRCULATION AND A VORTICITY
MAXIMUM SE OF THE CAPE VERDE ISLANDS NEAR 10N21W. CONVECTION HAS
INCREASED AHEAD OF THE WAVE AXIS. CLUSTERS OF SCATTRED MODERATE
TO ISOLATED STRONG CONVECTION ARE FROM 7N-12N BETWEEN 25W-28W.
SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS ALSO WITHIN THE ITCZ.
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#4 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 18, 2007 10:56 am

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#5 Postby fci » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:00 am

Is it getting late for CV storms to develop?
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#6 Postby Gustywind » Tue Sep 18, 2007 3:45 pm

000
AXNT20 KNHC 181802
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 PM EDT TUE SEP 18 2007

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...THE GULF OF MEXICO...THE CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN
SECTIONS OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE
AFRICAN COAST FROM THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION
IS BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...
WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...AND RADAR.

BASED ON 1200 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
1730 UTC.
...TROPICAL WAVES...
TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 24W/25W S OF 16N MOVING W NEAR 15 KT.
THIS WAVE WAS ADJUSTED SLIGHTLY TO THE W BASED ON THIS MORNINGS
SOUNDING DATA FROM SAL...IN ADDITION TO METSAT-9 LOW TO MID
LEVEL CLOUD DRIFT WINDS AND SATELLITE DERIVED 850 MB VORTICITY.
SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION
OF THE SRN PORTION OF THE WAVE AND THE ITCZ...WITHIN 180NM OF
THE AXIS FROM 5N-9N. ANOTHER AREA OF SHOWERS/TSTMS HAS RACED
AHEAD OF THE AXIS...WITH SCATTERED MODERATE ALSO FROM 5N-13N
BETWEEN 27W-30W.
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#7 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:01 pm

Loop: http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/ramsdis ... 4km_visir2

Do a zoom to the disturbance and you will see a pretty nice circulation with a nicely-develop band in the southern circulation.
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#8 Postby punkyg » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:12 pm

HURAKAN your link is not working for me.
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Re: New Wave in East Atlantic

#9 Postby canegrl04 » Tue Sep 18, 2007 5:46 pm

This is the healthiest looking wave since Dean. This could very well be future Karen
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#10 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:10 pm

fci wrote:Is it getting late for CV storms to develop?


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Does this answer your question!!!
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#11 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:14 pm

punkyg wrote:HURAKAN your link is not working for me.


It works for me. Use this then: http://www1.cira.colostate.edu/ramm/rms ... PICAL.html

In GOES-EAST click on "Visible."
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#12 Postby LarryWx » Tue Sep 18, 2007 6:53 pm

fci wrote:Is it getting late for CV storms to develop?


It is getting late, but not too late for a reasonable chance for something to form. However, it is getting pretty late for one to form and later hit the lower 48 of the U.S. For the period 1851-2006, here are the exact dates of FORMATION (TD+) for the 45 CV storms* that later hit the lower 48:

7/5, 7/11, 7/15, 7/31, 8/3, 8/3, 8/5, 8/7, 8/7, 8/15, 8/15, 8/16, 8/16, 8/17, 8/17, 8/18, 8/19, 8/20, 8/20, 8/21, 8/23, 8/25, 8/25, 8/27, 8/28, 8/28, 8/29, 8/29, 9/2, 9/3, 9/4, 9/6, 9/6, 9/7, 9/8, 9/10, 9/10, 9/10, 9/10, 9/11, 9/15, 9/16, 9/21, 9/21, 9/25

*My def. of CV storm: tropical storm/hurricane that first became at least a TD E of 50W and S of 20N

So, 156 years of history clearly show a sharp peak on 9/10 and only three after 9/16.

Here are some stats for 9/15+ formations:

- From 1851-2006, there were 36 CV storms that formed within the interval of 9/15-9/25.

- Five later hit the lower 48 and all five were majors at some point along their trek. Here are their formation dates: 9/25/1893 (storm #9 hit SC), 9/21/1966 (Inez hit FL), 9/16/1985 (Gloria hit NC to NE), 9/15/1998 (Georges hit FL keys and MS), and 9/21/2002 (Lili hit LA)

- So, five of 36 (13%) 1851-2006 CV storms that formed 9/15-9/25 later hit the U.S.

- This compares to ~19% for the entire hurricane season.

- So, the chances for a lower 48 hit from any one CV storm that forms 9/15-25 are ~2/3 as high as they are for CV storms that form throughout the season as a whole. That makes sense since it is more difficult to make it across the Atlantic by this point in the season vs. earlier. But each still has about a 1 in 8 chance, a nontrivial chance of hitting the lower 48.
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Re: New Wave in East Atlantic

#13 Postby BigA » Tue Sep 18, 2007 11:45 pm

The wave at about 9 N 30W looks decent; it may have some spin with it. Another convection-laden wave is coming off Africa tonight. I can cite numerous examples of late September Cape Verde storms, but most of them seem to recurve. That said, Africa looks like it is primed for at least one last "wave burst" http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... rmet7n.GIF so I wouldnt be surprised if we got one or two more CV systems ere it shuts down at the beginning of October.
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#14 Postby Gustywind » Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:55 am

000
AXNT20 KNHC 190553
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 AM EDT WED SEP 19 2007

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...THE GULF OF MEXICO...THE CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN
SECTIONS OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE
AFRICAN COAST FROM THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION
IS BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...
WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...AND RADAR.

BASED ON 0000 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
0515 UTC.

...TROPICAL WAVES...
TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 26W/27W S OF 16N MOVING W 10-15 KT. A
BROAD CYCLONIC TURNING IS ALONG THE WAVE AXIS NEAR 11N.
SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS FROM 8N-12N BETWEEN 25W-31W
...TROPICAL WAVES...
TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 26W/27W S OF 16N MOVING W 10-15 KT. A
BROAD CYCLONIC TURNING IS ALONG THE WAVE AXIS NEAR 11N.
SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS FROM 8N-12N BETWEEN 25W-31W
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/met8/eatl/rb.jpg
Nice wave , but seems that there's another train of waves looking good... :)
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Pertubation within the Itcz?

#15 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 21, 2007 8:41 am

Seems that something is firing up, i tkink that's it in relation on the wave at 36w...interresting to monitor!
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/wv-l.jpg
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#16 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 21, 2007 1:25 pm

yeah that's it.... :cheesy: :wink:

000
AXNT20 KNHC 211806
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 PM EDT FRI SEP 21 2007

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...THE GULF OF MEXICO...THE CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN
SECTIONS OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE
AFRICAN COAST FROM THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION
IS BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...
WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...AND RADAR.

BASED ON 1200 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
1715 UTC.

A LOW AMPLITUDE TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 37W S OF 15N MOVING W
10-15 KT. SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS THIS FEATURE AS A BROAD
LOW-LATITUDE PERTURBATION WITHIN THE ITCZ...AND THE AXIS
PLACEMENT IS LOCATED WHERE THE MOST POLEWARD INFLECTION OF THE
ITCZ IS NOTED. SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS OVER MUCH OF THE
VICINITY FROM 7N-12N BETWEEN 35W-44W...ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAVE
INTERACTING WITH THE ITCZ.
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Re: Pertubation within the Itcz?

#17 Postby Sanibel » Fri Sep 21, 2007 2:35 pm

At this time of the season these monsoon trough-like waves can produce systems. This one could be curling up another Ingrid-like system.
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Atlantic 10N 45W

#18 Postby stu » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:35 pm

Take a look at this sat loop http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-avn.html

I would welcome your thoughts on this ...
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Re: Atlantic 10N 45W

#19 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 21, 2007 3:51 pm

stu wrote:Take a look at this sat loop http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/catl/loop-avn.html

I would welcome your thoughts on this ...

I tkink that it's in relation with the wace this STU,and i post a topic if you look carefully this morning " Pertubation within the ITCZ" i've noticed that since this morning , it's a cloud mass with showers and thunderstorms trying to organize.....we will see what happens, but very interresting thing !
000
AXNT20 KNHC 211806
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
205 PM EDT FRI SEP 21 2007

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...THE GULF OF MEXICO...THE CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN
SECTIONS OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE
AFRICAN COAST FROM THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION
IS BASED ON SATELLITE IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...
WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...AND RADAR.

BASED ON 1200 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY THROUGH
1715 UTC.

A LOW AMPLITUDE TROPICAL WAVE IS ALONG 37W S OF 15N MOVING W 10-15 KT. SATELLITE IMAGERY DEPICTS THIS FEATURE AS A BROAD LOW-LATITUDE PERTURBATION WITHIN THE ITCZ...AND THE AXIS PLACEMENT IS LOCATED WHERE THE MOST POLEWARD INFLECTION OF THE ITCZ IS NOTED. SCATTERED MODERATE CONVECTION IS OVER MUCH OF THE VICINITY FROM 7N-12N BETWEEN 35W-44W...ASSOCIATED WITH THE WAVE
INTERACTING WITH THE ITCZ.
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#20 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 21, 2007 4:19 pm

666
ABNT20 KNHC 212117
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
530 PM EDT FRI SEP 21 2007

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC

A LARGE AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER CENTERED ABOUT 1000 MILES EAST OF
THE WINDWARD ISLANDS IS ASSOCIATED WITH A COUPLE OF WESTWARD MOVING
TROPICAL WAVES. SLOW DEVELOPMENT IS POSSIBLE DURING THE NEXT FEW
DAYS.


ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.

$$

FORECASTER AVILA
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