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Western Caribbean Disturbance

#1 Postby boca » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:32 am

I noticed some convection moving northward off of Panama this morning while looking at 93L. I'm going to watch this area to see if something pops down there.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-avn.html
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Re: Extereme SW Caribbean

#2 Postby Sanibel » Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:43 am

Looks like an EPAC-centered disturbance.
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#3 Postby jhamps10 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:20 am

I will say this, GFS in the 12z run develops something from the carribean, and heads it into the GOM.
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Re: Extereme SW Caribbean

#4 Postby oyster_reef » Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:49 pm

Here is a wave model that shows it hitting right behind 93L 2 days later...
This wave model is based on the GFS run

http://magicseaweed.com/Gulf-Coast-MSW- ... /swell/in/
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#5 Postby jhamps10 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:11 pm

18z GFS takes this into the yucatan channel and into the GOM as a low. links can be found in the 93L model thread.
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#6 Postby Wren » Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:22 pm

http://magicseaweed.com/Gulf-Coast-MSW- ... /swell/in/

Oyster, thanks for the link! I'd not seen that one before.
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Re: Extereme SW Caribbean

#7 Postby Sanibel » Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:37 pm

The models busted badly on the last Caribbean wave. They were saying all the same things they are saying here.
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#8 Postby jhamps10 » Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:13 pm

00z Same deal, develops a low in the carribean, and keeps it as a low all the way to........... You guessed it, Louisana, a 1-2 punch.
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#9 Postby wxmann_91 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 2:32 am

The GFS progs a massively favorable environment with a large UL anticyclone that moves from the Carib north to GOMEX. All we're missing is a system to exploit that environment.

I believe that was what the Euro was catching onto a week ago w/ that spurious NOLA system?
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Re: Extereme SW Caribbean

#10 Postby boca » Thu Sep 20, 2007 7:54 am

Nice blowup off the coast of Nicaragua.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/avn-l.jpg
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Re: Extereme SW Caribbean

#11 Postby Sanibel » Thu Sep 20, 2007 9:17 am

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Hmm, that blob looks like it could have something. Right under 93L.
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Re: Extereme SW Caribbean

#12 Postby jhamps10 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 10:30 am

Sanibel wrote:Image





Hmm, that blob looks like it could have something. Right under 93L.


yeah, looks real good. and the gulf looking favorable really has me concerned. Could the EURO had the wrong week for a Nola hurricane. Remember last friday as it had a hurricane developing out of the Carribean sea and heading towards the north central gulf coast.

It looks good I'll say that. 300% better than 93L
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#13 Postby jhamps10 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:22 am

12Z gfs has this getting to the Louisana coast in 72 hours!

a little fast don't you think?
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#14 Postby punkyg » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:38 am

What ever happen to the other thread about the models developing something in the carribean? is this the area the models are saying will develop.
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#15 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Sep 20, 2007 11:41 am

Persistence is the key. Don't get real excited after about 24 hrs of persistence. And even if persists for more than 24 hrs, development is never guaranteed.
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Re: Extereme SW Caribbean

#16 Postby Frank2 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 12:12 pm

When you look at both disturbances on the visible (since that's actually what it looks like), neither one appears to be very much...

http://www.goes.noaa.gov/browsh2.html

that enhanced IR is always misleading - it can make a thundershower look like a typhoon...

LOL
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Re: Extereme SW Caribbean

#17 Postby Comanche » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:19 pm

Like clockwork that JB is on calling out areas over a week in advance! I know he has some critics here, but he is on this season with calling the areas to watch way in advance. Late last week he said to watch the southern Caribbean for a system in about 10 days to be in the GOM.
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Re: Extereme SW Caribbean

#18 Postby jhamps10 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:41 pm

Comanche wrote:Like clockwork that JB is on calling out areas over a week in advance! I know he has some critics here, but he is on this season with calling the areas to watch way in advance. Late last week he said to watch the southern Caribbean for a system in about 10 days to be in the GOM.


he's on fire this season. no critic from me this year. And unlike 93L, This should be warm core all the way.
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#19 Postby KWT » Thu Sep 20, 2007 3:47 pm

It does look interesting but there does look like there is quite a bit of shear just to the north of the system presently, possibly due to the low complex of/with 93L presently.
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#20 Postby jhamps10 » Thu Sep 20, 2007 4:01 pm

look at 13.8/ 82
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/carb/loop-vis.html

Does that look like a cyclonic turn to anyone else? Also convection looking reliatvely good for approaching DMIN.
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