Cruise ships to be used for 6 months

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#21 Postby tw861 » Sun Sep 04, 2005 8:08 am

I work with someone who was due to leave tommorow (Monday) on a Carnival cruise from Galveston. They called his home yesterday (saturday) afternoon at 3pm and left a message on his phone that the cruise had been cancelled. His compensation.....a $100 on ship credit if he ever decides to take another cruise on Carnival.
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#22 Postby beachbum_al » Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:16 am

I don't know if this has been discussed but the Holiday is ported in Mobile, AL which is approximately 2 and half hours away. Actually it might more like 2 hours because I live across the bay and it is 2 and 1/2 hours for me. It is not close but closer. And I know that the Alabama people here will welcome them with open arms. At least I hope because they could had been us!

So maybe the Holiday is coming back to her port.

Once again I didn't read everything. So these ships are only going to be used for NO citizens. What about the other victims of this hurricane. What about the people in MS? Don't they need housing? Plus it would make sense to put the people of MS coastal areas on ships like Holiday because it would be closer to their homes. Once again I am getting upset.
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#23 Postby cswitwer » Sun Sep 04, 2005 11:24 am

With PTSD, it doesn't matter if you can actually get up, walk off the ship and be on dry land in a second. It is the FEELING of being trapped that is so stressful. And in this case, trapped and surrounded by water - when some of them may have nearly drowned - that could be very traumatic for some of these people.

A person who is afraid of small spaces can freak out walking into a small closet, even if they know they can step right back out again.
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#24 Postby baygirl_1 » Sun Sep 04, 2005 12:16 pm

My concern is that those living onboard the ship will be much more isolated than those living in community centers, church halls, unused church buildings, etc. The people living in the latter facilities will be part of the community. Our church announced this morning that at least 20 students will be starting school at our parish school come Tuesday morning and have requested school supplies for them and food and clothing for their families. All the heads of our church organizations are meeting later today to make plans to welcome them into our community. This is happening all over our part of the Gulf Coast-- probably all over the country but I can only report what I see and hear from friends here.
I think the people on the cruise ship will be much more isolated. At least here in Mobile, the cruise terminal is downtown away from any neghborhoods. Just my humble opinion.
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#25 Postby themusk » Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:18 pm

beachbum_al wrote:I don't know if this has been discussed but the Holiday is ported in Mobile, AL which is approximately 2 and half hours away. Actually it might more like 2 hours because I live across the bay and it is 2 and 1/2 hours for me. It is not close but closer. And I know that the Alabama people here will welcome them with open arms. At least I hope because they could had been us!

So maybe the Holiday is coming back to her port.

Once again I didn't read everything. So these ships are only going to be used for NO citizens. What about the other victims of this hurricane. What about the people in MS? Don't they need housing? Plus it would make sense to put the people of MS coastal areas on ships like Holiday because it would be closer to their homes. Once again I am getting upset.


It's FEMA policy to keep people as close as possible to their homes, and preferably on their own property. Most of the property in MS is no longer under water, and FEMA trailers and the like can be used.

But you can't put a FEMA trailer in New Orleans or most of the lower parishes.

Unless the "trailer" has a keel :(
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#26 Postby MBismyPlayground » Sun Sep 04, 2005 1:37 pm

themusk wrote:
beachbum_al wrote:I don't know if this has been discussed but the Holiday is ported in Mobile, AL which is approximately 2 and half hours away. Actually it might more like 2 hours because I live across the bay and it is 2 and 1/2 hours for me. It is not close but closer. And I know that the Alabama people here will welcome them with open arms. At least I hope because they could had been us!

So maybe the Holiday is coming back to her port.

Once again I didn't read everything. So these ships are only going to be used for NO citizens. What about the other victims of this hurricane. What about the people in MS? Don't they need housing? Plus it would make sense to put the people of MS coastal areas on ships like Holiday because it would be closer to their homes. Once again I am getting upset.


It's FEMA policy to keep people as close as possible to their homes, and preferably on their own property. Most of the property in MS is no longer under water, and FEMA trailers and the like can be used.

But you can't put a FEMA trailer in New Orleans or most of the lower parishes.

Unless the "trailer" has a keel :(


My problem with this would be lack of employment. Sure they can live in FEMA provided trailers but how will they support themselves?? Many in the area worked at the Casino's. Any of the businesses that were there are no more. MS is already being hard hit because lack of the tax income from the Casinos. Because of the destruction in these areas, how long will it take to make these roads safe enough to travel on. Because if these people are kept in this area, then they will have to find employment outside of the area, which would mean commuting. Logistically this could become a nightmare, especially with the gas issues.

OMG, just heard that they found 3 victims alive in Waveland.......They may not survive but they are alive.....
THIS is my problem.......there are still people trying to survive in MS, amide this destruction, yet the main focus has been on NO.
BOTH areas deserve attention.
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#27 Postby themusk » Sun Sep 04, 2005 2:11 pm

MBismyPlayground wrote:My problem with this would be lack of employment. Sure they can live in FEMA provided trailers but how will they support themselves?? Many in the area worked at the Casino's. Any of the businesses that were there are no more. MS is already being hard hit because lack of the tax income from the Casinos. Because of the destruction in these areas, how long will it take to make these roads safe enough to travel on. Because if these people are kept in this area, then they will have to find employment outside of the area, which would mean commuting. Logistically this could become a nightmare, especially with the gas issues.


That's a pretty good point, and one that I hope (and I can only hope, because I don't have a lot of faith in how this operation is running) authorities take into consideration. There will be jobs rebuilding the area, including the casinos, though I'm not sure if that is anything approaching sufficient.
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