YOU ARE BEING LIED TO

[TSmith274]

I just heard an interview, recorded today, of our mayor Ray Nagin. He claims that everything the governor, FEMA, and the Dept. of Homeland Security director says are lies. He called it, and I quote... "Spin for the cameras". He says that he is getting the run-around by everyone, including the president. He says that he has witnessed people dying in front of him. He has been told that help will be arriving for the past three days. People are being found on their roofs DEAD. We are not getting to these people. This is an embarrassment, and I am ashamed of this country.

[repeatoffender]

going to agree.

im pretty sad about this event. talk about a totally failure on the part of the US government. just a mess..and a trajedy.

[Stratosphere747]

I just heard an interview, recorded today, of our mayor Ray Nagin. He claims that everything the governor, FEMA, and the Dept. of Homeland Security director says are lies. He called it, and I quote... "Spin for the cameras". He says that he is getting the run-around by everyone, including the president. He says that he has witnessed people dying in front of him. He has been told that help will be arriving for the past three days. People are being found on their roofs DEAD. We are not getting to these people. This is an embarrassment, and I am ashamed of this country.

TSmith...

I wish I could argue with you...

Have faith...But never be ashamed of this country. It's time that the Governor and mayor step aside.

[artist]

no - it was a failure of the state of Louisiana as well as New Orleans NOT truly planning for the worst case scenario they have been warned about for years. Others are having to try to pick up the pieces for them now.

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

This makes me sick. The most powerful/riches country on earth can't even save its own people. Its disgusting.

[repeatoffender]

the federal government should have steped in 24 hrs PRIOR to the hurricane making landfall. the enormity of the devestation shouldn't really have surprised anybody. what we are seeing is a complete breakdown on the part of the US response effort. or lack there of.

this is shaming as a US citizen.

[Miss Mary]

And when NO began to fill up I said this is OUR country, one of OUR own cities, we'll take care of them.....

I still sit here shaking my head help has taken this long and has seemingly been bungled so badly. I know it's a huge area impacted by disaster, little supplies if any, very little order, looting, gangs, shootings, etc. Still, you watch these scenes on the news and you think, in mere hours that will be under control. And a day goes by. The situation gets worse and is not under control.

This accusation doesn't surprise me. Not ashamed of my country b/c the vast majority of us are good, decent people who know right from wrong. We just need to stand united against the crazies!

Mary

[Liberty30]

I know and I am too. I think most, or at least a whole heck of a lot of people today have come to this conclusion. (As evidenced by the posts in this thread and the friends and family I have talked to today). They won't get away with this one. It's too much of a mess.

As Joe Scarborough said tonight, People from all across America of both political parties see that this is a national disgrace.

He said that this is the worst disaster response he's ever seen.

Tonight the Director of FEMA said that he did not know about the 2nd largest shelter in the city of New Orleans tonight. Baloney. It's a little hard to miss 20,000 people from the air. He's got to be lying. I HOPE he's lying, because if he's telling the truth, it's a sad statement about our efforts.

Inexcusable as this shouldn't come as a suprise. Studies have been done on this scenario for years.

http://americanradioworks.publicradio.o ... print.html

http://www.nola.com/hurricane/index.ssf ... one_1.html

http://hurricane.lsu.edu/_newsbriefs/hefmtg.html

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/ ... 642805/pg_

This was supposedly our "A-1" priority for natural disaster planning. They did a mock of it last year and planned for it the year before!! This isn't 9-11 where it came as a complete surprise... we've had YEARS to plan...

[beachbum_al]

Honestly I don't know what happen. I think all levels of government is responsible for what is happening in NO. Somewhere, somehow things didn't work out like they thought. Did they not think NO was going to take a big hit? Were they in denial? I don't know. I don't understand what is going on. All I know is that I am sicken by the t.v. I do know help is on its way but will it be in time.

[mf_dolphin]

Understandably he's distraught as is most of the country. That being said, there has been help but the federal can't snap their fingers and make everything better. There have been mistakes made starting with the failure to start mandatory evacuations earlier. We all know who made that decision ultimately. In this case the city was slow to respond, the state was slow to respond, and now everyone wants to point at the Federal Government. This is tragic and is going to get worse. There will be plenty of time to review and place blame later.

[sertorius]

I posted early this morngin that I thought more could have been done in the 15 hours before landfall to better equip the Super Dome and the Convention Center and was being some what critical of the mayor-but you know-he is in there with his people trying to help-that is a heck of alot more than any higher govt. official/cleb. that I have seen do. I am not a logistics expert nor do I know much about emergincies, but it is just my humble opinion that our govt. has failed.

[mf_dolphin]

the federal government should have steped in 24 hrs PRIOR to the hurricane making landfall. the enormity of the devestation shouldn't really have surprised anybody. what we are seeing is a complete breakdown on the part of the US response effort. or lack there of.

this is shaming as a US citizen.

Obviously you haven't read up on the law of this country. The federal government does not have the right to step in prior to a natural disaster. Please try and educate yourself before posting this kind of crap.

[Rainband]

10.5 Billion dollars just approved by congress is a start!!

[artist]

according to the La homeland security head today he said they had not planned correctly - they had only planned on something like 900 national guard for after the hurricane hit to be dispatched. Tell me that would have been enough for a cat 5 anywhere. the state is the one that has not relinquished control of the situation to the federal government.



You know what - I am stating facts here out of their own mouths. This blame game is really getting old!!!!!!! I hope someone will put an end to it soon. It gets us absolutely no where!

[nholley]

I am still trying to understand how there are divisions of troops able to deploy anywhere in the world in 24 hours.....complete with logistical support, but they were not dispatched to NO.

As with anything there is more to this than meets the eye and we just have to hope the truth comes out. Once again it seems people with power and an agenda are playing with the lives of people they consider pawns in a game.

Nature dictates the strong will survive but through mans evolution we have lost the ability and strength to survive adversity and this is now being shown.

The best we can hope for is that lessons are learned for the next inevitable tradegy.

[artist]

I really wish a MOD would step in here and stop this now!

[wxcrazytwo]

Understandably he's distraught as is most of the country. That being said, there has been help but the federal can't snap their fingers and make everything better. There have been mistakes made starting with the failure to start mandatory evacuations earlier. We all know who made that decision ultimately. In this case the city was slow to respond, the state was slow to respond, and now everyone wants to point at the Federal Government. This is tragic and is going to get worse. There will be plenty of time to review and place blame later.

MF, while I agree on some points, I have to respectfully disagree with you on this one.

MF quoted: "That being said, there has been help but the federal can't snap their fingers and make everything better."

"and now everyone wants to point at the Federal Government. "

When the canes hit florida, the FEDS responded almost immediately and without failure for the most part. This is a failure at all state and federal levels..

[jasons2k]

the federal government should have steped in 24 hrs PRIOR to the hurricane making landfall. the enormity of the devestation shouldn't really have surprised anybody. what we are seeing is a complete breakdown on the part of the US response effort. or lack there of.

this is shaming as a US citizen.

My thoughts too...troops should have been staged in Houston or Beaumont the day BEFORE, ready to go with trucks of supplies.

[mf_dolphin]

according to the La homeland security head today he said they had not planned correctly - they had only planned on something like 900 national guard for after the hurricane hit to be dispatched. Tell me that would have been enough for a cat 5 anywhere. the state is the one that has not relinquished control of the situation to the federal government.



You know what - I am stating facts here out of their own mouths. This blame game is really getting old!!!!!!! I hope someone will put an end to it soon. It gets us absolutely no where!

AMEN!

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I am still trying to understand how there are divisions of troops able to deploy anywhere in the world in 24 hours.....complete with logistical support, but they were not dispatched to NO. ...

First let's at least try and be accurate. There is no division capable of full deployment in 24 hours. I was attached to the 82nd Airborne Division for 2 years so I know the truth. We don't even have the airlift capability to deploy a full division at once. Posting blind and inaccurate "assumptions" only inflames a situation.

[simplykristi]

All levels of government.. city, state, and Federal, are to blame for this. There should have been at least one staging area set up prior to the landfall of the hurricane. Is there even a staging area now?

Kristi