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Audrey2Katrina
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Was interesting the part I was able to catch. I had no idea the levels of devastation in Pascagoula; but it's nice to see the shipyards bouncing back as well as they seem to be.
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vbhoutex wrote:Is it going to be run again? I missed it.
Since it was a full two hours, I'm not sure if they'll archieve it or not. But I'll keep my eyes open and repost the link if it becomes available again down the road.
Audrey2Katrina wrote:Was interesting the part I was able to catch. I had no idea the levels of devastation in Pascagoula; but it's nice to see the shipyards bouncing back as well as they seem to be.
Ya know, I wasn't really aware of that either. At one point in the program, they said 95% of the dwellilngs were affected by surge. Sounds kinda high??? Perhaps LindaLoo can chime in with a home-town perspective...
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A2K, yes we had major devastation in Pascagoula. Everybody south of HWY 90 flooded. Northrop Grumman sustained millions of dollars in damage, as did the Chevron refinery. What amazed me is the next night after the storm the refinery stacks were fire red. The flames were lighting up the sky. It was comforting to see that, even though I had really never paid that any attention before.
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Lindaloo wrote:A2K, yes we had major devastation in Pascagoula. Everybody south of HWY 90 flooded. Northrop Grumman sustained millions of dollars in damage, as did the Chevron refinery. What amazed me is the next night after the storm the refinery stacks were fire red. The flames were lighting up the sky. It was comforting to see that, even though I had really never paid that any attention before.
Absolutely amazing. Pascagoula is practically at the Alabama state line, and we know that Mobile (at least below I-10) also received some pretty severe flooding. The hurricane/surge devastation seems to have extended at least 100 miles to the east of the center, and perhaps another 20-30 to the west.--unbelievable expanse of land impacted by this storm; but at least the show had disclosed a lot of "up" sides. I only wish the areas around here were as upbeat as that which I sensed in those folks in Mississippi--a tribute to their mettle IMO.
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You would not believe how we had to live after that storm. Living like pigs, trying to find water, rushing out to the American Red Cross to at least get a hot meal for the day. People bathing in swimming pools and fire hydrants. The fire dept. was going around to neighborhoods and opening the fire hydrants. People would come running. The firefighters would just stand there and let us do what we had to do.
Right after the storm passed and the streets were still flooded, people were out walking in it. I thought they were looting. Boy was I wrong. At the time I had no idea they had nowhere to go. I will never forget how everyone at the beach was just standing around in shock, people crying and hugging each other. Mind you these folks did not live at the beach here. But you do what you gotta do when you gotta do it. Neighbors did not help neighbors until the actual shock wore off. It is something I never want to experience again. Every now and then I smell that muck and mud. Hopefully that will go away soon too.
Right after the storm passed and the streets were still flooded, people were out walking in it. I thought they were looting. Boy was I wrong. At the time I had no idea they had nowhere to go. I will never forget how everyone at the beach was just standing around in shock, people crying and hugging each other. Mind you these folks did not live at the beach here. But you do what you gotta do when you gotta do it. Neighbors did not help neighbors until the actual shock wore off. It is something I never want to experience again. Every now and then I smell that muck and mud. Hopefully that will go away soon too.
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Lindaloo wrote:You would not believe how we had to live after that storm. Living like pigs, trying to find water, rushing out to the American Red Cross to at least get a hot meal for the day. People bathing in swimming pools and fire hydrants. The fire dept. was going around to neighborhoods and opening the fire hydrants. People would come running. The firefighters would just stand there and let us do what we had to do.
Right after the storm passed and the streets were still flooded, people were out walking in it. I thought they were looting. Boy was I wrong. At the time I had no idea they had nowhere to go. I will never forget how everyone at the beach was just standing around in shock, people crying and hugging each other. Mind you these folks did not live at the beach here. But you do what you gotta do when you gotta do it. Neighbors did not help neighbors until the actual shock wore off. It is something I never want to experience again. Every now and then I smell that muck and mud. Hopefully that will go away soon too.
And - I know you'll agree Linda - the concept of neighbors helping neighbors has certainly taken on a whole new climate. Comparing pre-Katrina to post-Katrina, it is apparent to me that neighbors are much more, well, neighborly!! That is certainly one (among many) of the positives to come out of this storm.
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It would have been nice to have a bath from a fire hydrant. I had to take sponge baths for a couple of weeks. Ever had to bath using a bottle of water? That after working clean up all day? I was a mess. We did have one hot meal a day at my mother-in-laws were the family would gather in the evening. The only good think I liked while the power was out was all the stars out at night. It was beautiful. Down in the Pass we didn't have running water for a few months and then had a boil notice till January. Still drinking bottled water.....MGC
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MGC wrote:It would have been nice to have a bath from a fire hydrant. I had to take sponge baths for a couple of weeks. Ever had to bath using a bottle of water? That after working clean up all day? I was a mess. We did have one hot meal a day at my mother-in-laws were the family would gather in the evening. The only good think I liked while the power was out was all the stars out at night. It was beautiful. Down in the Pass we didn't have running water for a few months and then had a boil notice till January. Still drinking bottled water.....MGC
Got to say that I haven't had it that bad, although I was on bottled water for about a month before we could trust the taps, so yeah, the sponge baths were familiar. For four months thanks to other financial priorities I'd been washing clothes in a bathtub and hanging them out over a fence.
Makes you appreciate what you had! And never to take anything for granted again!
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Thanks TSmith274 and I am sure he will be in Biloxi/Gulfport, Pascagoula has been forgotten by most and barely covered in any media, much as the entire MS Gulf Coast. All the attention has been on New Orleans and unfortunately we are even worse off than they are. I don't remember the exact numbers but it was something like 75 to 85% of all buildings in Long Beach/Pass Christian were totally destroyed. Thank the good Lord we had flood insurance and we were paid off fairly quickly to our policy limits, but its still not enough to rebuild our home at today's current inflated prices. My husband said today that what he had been told was it was 105.00 a square foot for an elevated house, not including the foundation and it was another 30,000+ depending on the types of pilings you used. Most of the people that lived here in South Pascagoula around the Gulf were older retired people and they are not going to rebuild. Some are, most aren't. They say they are too old to start over again. I, myself, am 50 and not looking forward to having to build a house 8 to 10 feet off the ground and having to climb those stairs everyday. That's with the new FEMA Flood Maps being adopted by our City Council.
It just aggravates me that they take this one storm and base an entire new flood zone map for the MS Coast and most of these places in town have never ever flooded. How often do you have a storm that hits 80 miles away and still has a storm surge that reaches on average 31' for at least 80 miles to the east? I know it could happen again this year, I was 14 when Camille came thru, but Pascagoula hardly received any flooding with Camille. We are only 10 3/4 feet above sea level so we knew we would be flooded, but to come home to nothing what so ever but a pile of debris that wasn't even our home was heart breaking. What we found of our belongings could be put in the back of a small Sonoma with plenty of extra room. One piece of furniture, my rocking chair, it was under a tree that had fallen and my husband found that about 900 feet back in the marsh north east of our house and had to fight a water moccasin for it. But he told the snake, hey she said if nothing else was found she wanter her rocker, so you gotta go! Bless his heart, what a husband will do for his wife
This is while he is working 18 hour days as a Deputy Sheriff, trying to get the Sheriffs Office running since the court house had 5 feet of water in it, oh yea, we were there...had to evacuate to the first floor but felt safe cause we had 3 more floors to go up!!
Oh well, have run my mouth enough
PS Linda, I wish we had had a fire hydrant to use...we took "kitty cat" baths with bottled water just like MGC for weeks at my moms in Moss Point, they had no water as the pumping stations all went under water from the flooding and they were so old they couldn't get parts to fix them and had to really work hard to get them going again. We had power on the Friday after the storm, really fast because she lives right off Main Street, but still no water. My first bath after the storm was with cold water, well semi warm water from the sun at my brother in laws house in Gautier, his hot water heater is in his attic so it warmed the water but it was on Thursday after the storm, it was soooo nice to wash my hair! You don't know how much little things mean until you don't have them.
Mary
PS Ixolib.....Know about the neighbors helping neighbors thing...we were flooded after Georges and if it hadn't been for our neighbors we would have all gone crazy living in FEMA trailers with 2 children ages 9 and 12...boy that was fun....NOT! After Katrina, everyone has told us, now we know why you didn't have any carpet in your house and only had hard wood and brick! They all say, I don't want to ever have to rip out that stinking wet carpet again. Oh, after the storm, even though we had no walls or roof, our tongue and groove oak floor was still intact as was my brick floor, nothing wrong with them but that was all.
It just aggravates me that they take this one storm and base an entire new flood zone map for the MS Coast and most of these places in town have never ever flooded. How often do you have a storm that hits 80 miles away and still has a storm surge that reaches on average 31' for at least 80 miles to the east? I know it could happen again this year, I was 14 when Camille came thru, but Pascagoula hardly received any flooding with Camille. We are only 10 3/4 feet above sea level so we knew we would be flooded, but to come home to nothing what so ever but a pile of debris that wasn't even our home was heart breaking. What we found of our belongings could be put in the back of a small Sonoma with plenty of extra room. One piece of furniture, my rocking chair, it was under a tree that had fallen and my husband found that about 900 feet back in the marsh north east of our house and had to fight a water moccasin for it. But he told the snake, hey she said if nothing else was found she wanter her rocker, so you gotta go! Bless his heart, what a husband will do for his wife
This is while he is working 18 hour days as a Deputy Sheriff, trying to get the Sheriffs Office running since the court house had 5 feet of water in it, oh yea, we were there...had to evacuate to the first floor but felt safe cause we had 3 more floors to go up!!
Oh well, have run my mouth enough
PS Linda, I wish we had had a fire hydrant to use...we took "kitty cat" baths with bottled water just like MGC for weeks at my moms in Moss Point, they had no water as the pumping stations all went under water from the flooding and they were so old they couldn't get parts to fix them and had to really work hard to get them going again. We had power on the Friday after the storm, really fast because she lives right off Main Street, but still no water. My first bath after the storm was with cold water, well semi warm water from the sun at my brother in laws house in Gautier, his hot water heater is in his attic so it warmed the water
but it was on Thursday after the storm, it was soooo nice to wash my hair! You don't know how much little things mean until you don't have them.
Mary
PS Ixolib.....Know about the neighbors helping neighbors thing...we were flooded after Georges and if it hadn't been for our neighbors we would have all gone crazy living in FEMA trailers with 2 children ages 9 and 12...boy that was fun....NOT! After Katrina, everyone has told us, now we know why you didn't have any carpet in your house and only had hard wood and brick! They all say, I don't want to ever have to rip out that stinking wet carpet again. Oh, after the storm, even though we had no walls or roof, our tongue and groove oak floor was still intact as was my brick floor, nothing wrong with them but that was all.
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MSRobi911, good points. I don't like the new Fema maps being based on Katrina's flooding either. I also don't like FEMA's unwillingness to put large trailers in New Orleans because it's a "flood zone". What kind of sense does that make? The only thing that rendered it a "flood zone" was the levees breaking. Seems to me that not allowing re-development in some areas is just an admission that we can't and won't be able to build a levee that is capable of keeping the water out. It's a defeatest attitude. What happened to this country's "can-do" attitude? We've turned into a country of naysayers... always looking for reasons why we can't do something, instead of accepting certain things as challenges and coming up with solutions.
Storm surges are a known commodity. We know how high a surge can get. Yet, we won't make a real effort to keep it out of the city. I guarantee you... if some science were developed to stop earthquakes, the feds wouldn't think twice about investing $20 billion in that. They'd do it in a heartbeat. We just aren't as important, and I'm having a hard time coming to grips with that fact.
Storm surges are a known commodity. We know how high a surge can get. Yet, we won't make a real effort to keep it out of the city. I guarantee you... if some science were developed to stop earthquakes, the feds wouldn't think twice about investing $20 billion in that. They'd do it in a heartbeat. We just aren't as important, and I'm having a hard time coming to grips with that fact.
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