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#3221 Postby jasons2k » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:10 pm

HouTXmetro wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

those upper LLs the the NE of Chris are racing towards him like blood thirsty devil hounds. Mother Nature is really on our side this year. I guess she feels bad after wht happened last year.


Yep, it looks like on that loop even what's left of the LLC will be sent crashing into Hispaniola. Chris might be history after all.
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#3222 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:11 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

those upper LLs the the NE of Chris are racing towards him like blood thirsty devil hounds. Mother Nature is really on our side this year. I guess she feels bad after wht happened last year.
the upper LL to his west also seems to now be moving NW. I think the combination could help speed up Chris toward a more favorable environment sooner as the upper LLs behind Chris should help push Chris away.


I disagree, the ULL behind and NE are closer and the flow around them will keep tugging on the convection in a SW to NE flow.
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#3223 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:12 pm

The UL's will have no influence on the track of a system this shallow
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#3224 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:15 pm

jschlitz wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

those upper LLs the the NE of Chris are racing towards him like blood thirsty devil hounds. Mother Nature is really on our side this year. I guess she feels bad after wht happened last year.


Yep, it looks like on that loop even what's left of the LLC will be sent crashing into Hispaniola. Chris might be history after all.


What are you talking about? You cant even see it on that map
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#3225 Postby jasons2k » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:18 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:
jschlitz wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

those upper LLs the the NE of Chris are racing towards him like blood thirsty devil hounds. Mother Nature is really on our side this year. I guess she feels bad after wht happened last year.


Yep, it looks like on that loop even what's left of the LLC will be sent crashing into Hispaniola. Chris might be history after all.


What are you talking about? You cant even see it on that map


If you look very closely where the LLC is located - near where that little tiny pop of convection is - you can see the small swirl of the dry air entangled in the LLC - it looks like it (LLC) is getting shoved to the SW as well.

BTW to clarify Derek - I wasn't inferring that it was the ULL steering this - sorry for not being clear
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#3226 Postby AJC3 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:21 pm

Life support update: Last 30-60 minutes there's been a wee bit of convective phartage near 20.3 66.6, closer to the center
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#3227 Postby Kerry04 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:22 pm

AJC3 wrote:Life support update: Last 30-60 minutes there's been a wee bit of convective phartage near 20.3 66.6, closer to the center


so what does this mean?
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#3228 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:22 pm

whats phartage? did it fart?
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#3229 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:23 pm

jschlitz wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

those upper LLs the the NE of Chris are racing towards him like blood thirsty devil hounds. Mother Nature is really on our side this year. I guess she feels bad after wht happened last year.


Yep, it looks like on that loop even what's left of the LLC will be sent crashing into Hispaniola. Chris might be history after all.
So far though there is no sign of a SW turn in the movement of the LLC.
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#3230 Postby jasons2k » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:25 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
jschlitz wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

those upper LLs the the NE of Chris are racing towards him like blood thirsty devil hounds. Mother Nature is really on our side this year. I guess she feels bad after wht happened last year.


Yep, it looks like on that loop even what's left of the LLC will be sent crashing into Hispaniola. Chris might be history after all.
So far though there is no sign of a SW turn in the movement of the LLC.


Anything to keep it alive I suppose.......
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#3231 Postby Innotech » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:25 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:whats phartage? did it fart?


thats exactly what he meant. It was comical.

There is a bit of condensation/convection going on in the LLC. not a substantial amount, but the storm is still getting moisture.
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#3232 Postby JonathanBelles » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:25 pm

looks like it sucking convection in the se quadrant
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#3233 Postby jlauderdal » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:25 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:whats phartage? did it fart?


it did last night big time but it feels much better now, that mlc gave it gas so bye bye
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#3234 Postby HouTXmetro » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:26 pm

Extremeweatherguy wrote:
jschlitz wrote:
HouTXmetro wrote:http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-wv.html

those upper LLs the the NE of Chris are racing towards him like blood thirsty devil hounds. Mother Nature is really on our side this year. I guess she feels bad after wht happened last year.


Yep, it looks like on that loop even what's left of the LLC will be sent crashing into Hispaniola. Chris might be history after all.
So far though there is no sign of a SW turn in the movement of the LLC.


I agree in the sense that Chris can speed up into a more favorable enivironment and the ULL to the NW departure can aid the favorable environment. However, I disagree that the ULL to the NE will affect his track. They will only increase shear and try to pull any of Chris convection into their respective circulations.
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#3235 Postby Windtalker1 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:27 pm

fact789 wrote:looks like it sucking convection in the se quadrant
I think your right...last frame shows moisture beginning to be sucked in. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html
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#3236 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:31 pm

I just checked and there is a much better UL environment about 5 degrees west of Chris. If it can reach this area and still look ok, then it might be able to organize into a better looking system again.
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#3237 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:32 pm

KFDM Meteorologist wrote:Typical NHC, still calling it a TS with nothing there but a swirl. :roll:


You know as well as I do that they must err on the side of conservatism to be sure they are covered and no one gets an "unwanted surprise".
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#3238 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:33 pm

This is from the Accuweather FREE site:

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Tropical Storm Chris got knocked for a loop Thursday. The storm is down on the mat and the ref is counting. The wind shear that hit Chris was quite destructive, putting a gaping hole in the storm by taking away all of its biggest thunderstorms. Without those, there is not enough heat being liberated into the air to drive the storm's circulation. If this were to continue, Chris would be history, but that may not be the case. It is quite possible that the storm will reach a more favorable location in the atmosphere within the next 36 hours which would allow it to grow somewhat stronger. At this point, the AccuWeather.com Hurricane Center is not looking for anything major, but the storm is not dead yet.
Story by AccuWeather.com Expert Senior Meteorologist John Kocet.
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#3239 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:33 pm

SXXX50 KNHC 031734
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#3240 Postby Extremeweatherguy » Thu Aug 03, 2006 12:36 pm

well there are FL winds of 38 knots in there, this shows that it hasn't weakened from earlier.
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