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#3501 Postby miamicanes177 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:30 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I have to agree that this is not a TS at this point

Could become one again, but likely not until moving into the GOM (and chances there are less than 50/50)
This is a tropical storm according to the experts at the NHC.
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#3502 Postby dwg71 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:31 pm

EWG - they say "chance" - but don't think so. Go with them, you'll be right more than your wrong. No one has said, No chance of redevelopment, but right now there are not any signs of it. LLC dont last 48 hours w/o convection. It will open up soon if it doesnt fire deep convection around the center.
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#3503 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:32 pm

I only remember something this badly sheared coming back twice.

Barry in 2001 and Jeanne in 2004 (though a completely new center formed, and the mountains aided its poor state)

Both took many days to recover
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#3504 Postby Rainband » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:32 pm

I could win lotto too. Seriously I think this one is toast. The models were dead on with dissipation. Our local mets said it is going to be going wnw to Texas but most likely will be nothing more than a couple of thuderstorms.
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#3505 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:32 pm

and I disagree with the NHC assessment right now, but scientists in the same field do disagree.. its how science is advanced
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#3506 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:34 pm

Your right, the models did well showing the dissipation.
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#3507 Postby dwg71 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:36 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:and I disagree with the NHC assessment right now, but scientists in the same field do disagree.. its how science is advanced


The world is still flat though...look at water vapor my computer monitor doesn't bulge out like it would if it were round :lol:
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#3508 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:36 pm

SXXX50 KNHC 032130
AF308 0603A CHRIS HDOB 31 KNHC
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#3509 Postby miamicanes177 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:37 pm

5-10kts of shear is directly ahead of Chris at this point. I am certainly not jumping on the dissipation bandwagon at this point. It has maintained its intensity in a hostile enviornment. If it can hold on for another 12-24 hours then I believe this could be a storm we will need to deal with in the GOM down the road.
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#3510 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:38 pm

URNT11 KNHC 032131
97779 21074 50220 66600 03700 14022 22221 /0017
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RMK AF308 0603A CHRIS OB 09

Surface SE at 25 knots; 1017mb
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#3511 Postby Wx_Warrior » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:38 pm

Yes, exciting too watch and look at because nothing immediate right now...But lets not make a mountain out of a molehill....Chrissy-poo will take us on a ride the remaining of the week trying to gain strength, etc....Yes it could gain some strength in the old GOM but nothing of BIG proportions but something to atleast agree to disagree and argue about!

And yes, us mets get along...Some are smarter than others! JUST KIDDING!!!!
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#3512 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:39 pm

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#3513 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:41 pm

Recon is going to go through the center in about 15 minutes (NE quad).
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#3514 Postby Rainband » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:41 pm

Our local met also said that they are saying this is a tropical storm becuase they think that there is a tiny possibility that there are TS winds in squalls and will most likely downgrade it in the next advisory.
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#3515 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:42 pm

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#3516 Postby StormsAhead » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:43 pm

41 knots at FL in the NE quad so far
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#3517 Postby dwg71 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:43 pm

Rainband wrote:Our local met also said that they are saying this is a tropical storm becuase they think that there is a tiny possibility that there are TS winds in squalls and will most likely downgrade it in the next advisory.


Your local met must have stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night. :D That's my opinion as well, they just are being cautious and deliberate.
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#3518 Postby wxman57 » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:43 pm

What's with the 90% FL reduction? Isn't the standard reduction from 1500 ft. 70%? 1500 ft is the height of a hurricane's max winds, typically, so the reduction there is greatest.
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#3519 Postby jasons2k » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:45 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:main difference is, I am supposed to make the correct call 100% of the time. Had people at the office worried, apparantly for no reason


Don't sweat it. It's better to get a little worried over nothing than to be completely blase and miss a Mack truck.
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#3520 Postby WindRunner » Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:45 pm

wxman57 wrote:What's with the 90% FL reduction? Isn't the standard reduction from 1500 ft. 70%? 1500 ft is the height of a hurricane's max winds, typically, so the reduction there is greatest.


IIRC, it's usually 70-75%, but this isn't quite your traditional hurricane. Probably a .8 or so is more appropriate (or at least so we have been using on previous missions).
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