Hurricane Wilma - Cat. 5

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#4141 Postby CronkPSU » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:39 am

looking at the animated radar loop...it seems to be stationary again

then again, the last sat frame looks more organized

<img src="http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT/FLOAT2/IR4/20.jpg">
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#4142 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:46 am

last comment on "poor tampa bay area"
directly from the treasure island web site regarding real estate development for the last 2 years:
2003: 10 buildings, average cost: $341,400 each
2004: 12 buildings, average cost: $342,300 each

not too shabby. And it has greatly increased here too this year with 4 new complexes going up advertising condos starting at $399k

the town/island is only 1.6 square miles

and that is probably about the going rate for everywhere along the coast. -and that isn't the nice big houses either... that is for just one and two bedroom condos. the houses, mostly built in the 60's and early 70's all go for at least a million. the big mansions for a couple mil each.
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#4143 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:47 am

Pressure at 962, VDM. Wilma continues to weaken!!
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#4144 Postby THead » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:47 am

jkt21787 wrote:Until that eye gets together a heck of a lot more, we won't see her go much higher. Anyone remember Frances? I sure am seeing flashbacks. People kept calling it to strengthen before landfalling to a major, but it never happened. It just looked sick, especially with the eye. The eye looks extremely ragged right now in Wilma too, and won't be conducive to much if any strengthening.


Still looks pretty good considering its been over land for the last 24+ hours. Really the southern edge of her massive eye is just now getting completely over the water. But yeah, I remember Frances and her big ole eye too. She's definitely going to have to do something with that eye to have a shot at any real intensification, but I'm far from counting her out yet. It looks to me like she is trying to reform her inner eyewall. We'll see if she can pull it off or not.
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#4145 Postby Stratosphere747 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:47 am

The "loop" current and waters of the GOM are much cooler than some might expect.

https://www.navo.navy.mil/LIBRARY/Metoc ... mperature/
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#4146 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:50 am

THead wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:Until that eye gets together a heck of a lot more, we won't see her go much higher. Anyone remember Frances? I sure am seeing flashbacks. People kept calling it to strengthen before landfalling to a major, but it never happened. It just looked sick, especially with the eye. The eye looks extremely ragged right now in Wilma too, and won't be conducive to much if any strengthening.


Still looks pretty good considering its been over land for the last 24+ hours. Really the southern edge of her massive eye is just now getting completely over the water. But yeah, I remember Frances and her big ole eye too. She's definitely going to have to do something with that eye to have a shot at any real intensification, but I'm far from counting her out yet. It looks to me like she is trying to reform her inner eyewall. We'll see if she can pull it off or not.

Vortex confirms that Wilma does not like its eye. Pressures are continuing to rise.
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#4147 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:51 am

THead wrote:
jkt21787 wrote:Until that eye gets together a heck of a lot more, we won't see her go much higher. Anyone remember Frances? I sure am seeing flashbacks. People kept calling it to strengthen before landfalling to a major, but it never happened. It just looked sick, especially with the eye. The eye looks extremely ragged right now in Wilma too, and won't be conducive to much if any strengthening.


Still looks pretty good considering its been over land for the last 24+ hours. Really the southern edge of her massive eye is just now getting completely over the water. But yeah, I remember Frances and her big ole eye too. She's definitely going to have to do something with that eye to have a shot at any real intensification, but I'm far from counting her out yet. It looks to me like she is trying to reform her inner eyewall. We'll see if she can pull it off or not.


Oh yeah I remember Frances. Wilma is really copying her, being a slowpoke and all that, and now having the huge eye.

The damage reports that will come out of the Yucatan tomorrow will show us what would've happened had Frances struck as a Cat 4 instead of a Cat 2.
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#4148 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:52 am

Hopefully this isn't too off topic...

In case you might run out of electricity for a couple days, in addition to all the regular prepping you do for storms, you may want to be sure to get all your laundry done and be sure all the dishes are washed.
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#4149 Postby gatorcane » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:52 am

well even if pressures are rising some the convection is expanding and I would think that soon after we would see the pressures start to drop again.
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#4150 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:54 am

we could see a fast drop in pressures with a slow response in wind speeds at first just like when she really wound up before. I doubt she will get that strong again, but remember it can take a storm a while to react to the changing pressures.
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#4151 Postby THead » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:54 am

Stratosphere747 wrote:The "loop" current and waters of the GOM are much cooler than some might expect.

https://www.navo.navy.mil/LIBRARY/Metoc ... mperature/


Don't see much a difference in temps for where she is now, and going to be over the next 24 hours, as where she was 36 hours ago and one mean Wilma.
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#4152 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:55 am

THead wrote:
Stratosphere747 wrote:The "loop" current and waters of the GOM are much cooler than some might expect.

https://www.navo.navy.mil/LIBRARY/Metoc ... mperature/


Don't see much a difference in temps for where she is now, and going to be over the next 24 hours, as where she was 36 hours ago and one mean Wilma.

Those waters are upwelled because Wilma was there earlier, thus cooler. They were much warmer when Wilma was initially there. Heat content was much higher as well.
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#4153 Postby THead » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:56 am

TreasureIslandFLGal wrote:Hopefully this isn't too off topic...

In case you might run out of electricity for a couple days, in addition to all the regular prepping you do for storms, you may want to be sure to get all your laundry done and be sure all the dishes are washed.


LOL, my wife has been buggin me all day about the laundry.......its my job and I hate it!!
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#4154 Postby wxmann_91 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:56 am

Stratosphere747 wrote:The "loop" current and waters of the GOM are much cooler than some might expect.

https://www.navo.navy.mil/LIBRARY/Metoc ... mperature/


Link is not working for me.
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#4155 Postby THead » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:57 am

jkt21787 wrote:
THead wrote:
Stratosphere747 wrote:The "loop" current and waters of the GOM are much cooler than some might expect.

https://www.navo.navy.mil/LIBRARY/Metoc ... mperature/


Don't see much a difference in temps for where she is now, and going to be over the next 24 hours, as where she was 36 hours ago and one mean Wilma.

Those waters are upwelled because Wilma was there earlier, thus cooler. They were much warmer when Wilma was initially there. Heat content was much higher as well.


Duh, makes sense, didn't think about that.
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#4156 Postby thermos » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:57 am

boca_chris wrote:well even if pressures are rising some the convection is expanding and I would think that soon after we would see the pressures start to drop again.


No remember that's not the convection expanding and intensifying its the sunset :wink: Even NHC reported that the cloud tops were cooling in the last discussion.

SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS SOME COOLING OF THE CLOUD TOPS IN BOTH THE INNER AND OUTER EYEWALLS...ALTHOUGH THERE HAS NOT YET BEEN ENOUGH INCREASE IN ORGANIZATION TO JUSTIFY INCREASING THE WINDS.

So the NHC said there was an increase in organization like we were saying and not how jkt and others were saying it was a "sunset" just making it look that way on the satellite.
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#4157 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:57 am

I expect that eye to clear out over the next 12 hours...Kind of like it did a few days ago. The convection should keep on deeping.
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#4158 Postby jkt21787 » Sun Oct 23, 2005 12:59 am

thermos wrote:
boca_chris wrote:well even if pressures are rising some the convection is expanding and I would think that soon after we would see the pressures start to drop again.


No remember that's not the convection expanding and intensifying its the sunset :wink: Even NHC reported that the cloud tops were cooling in the last discussion.

SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS SOME COOLING OF THE CLOUD TOPS IN BOTH THE INNER AND OUTER EYEWALLS...ALTHOUGH THERE HAS NOT YET BEEN ENOUGH INCREASE IN ORGANIZATION TO JUSTIFY INCREASING THE WINDS.

So the NHC said there was an increase in organization like we were saying and not how jkt and others were saying it was a "sunset" just making it look that way on the satellite.

You are absolutely unbelieveable. The sat Product (IR shortwave 2) explodes in purple and deep blue during and ONLY DURING sunset. You are a complete joke.

Whatever it shows now is accurate. Read my previous posts and you would see this, but you are so quick to jump on everyone's back who posts the slightest thing you disagree with you can't take the time to read everything first.
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#4159 Postby THead » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:01 am

thermos wrote:
boca_chris wrote:well even if pressures are rising some the convection is expanding and I would think that soon after we would see the pressures start to drop again.


No remember that's not the convection expanding and intensifying its the sunset :wink: Even NHC reported that the cloud tops were cooling in the last discussion.

SATELLITE IMAGERY SHOWS SOME COOLING OF THE CLOUD TOPS IN BOTH THE INNER AND OUTER EYEWALLS...ALTHOUGH THERE HAS NOT YET BEEN ENOUGH INCREASE IN ORGANIZATION TO JUSTIFY INCREASING THE WINDS.

So the NHC said there was an increase in organization like we were saying and not how jkt and others were saying it was a "sunset" just making it look that way on the satellite.


That was 7 hours ago when the sun was setting. That effect is now over......however the moon has risen since then....... :roll:
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#4160 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Sun Oct 23, 2005 1:02 am

hahaha. yeah, laundry pretty much sucks. I've actually opted to use the laundry room downstairs on the 1st floor just so I can do it all at once in like 2 hours than have to have the machines running up here all day and be "trapped" from leaving.
-and I made the mistake of not running my dishwasher when hurricane Fran hit me in NC. After 28 days without electricity and running water, a very foul odor started eminating from that machine... and we were both too scared (thankfully) to open it. It had soap in it too and they were pre-rinsed before they went in there... I just forgot to turn it on before all the action started late that night.
It took about 4 washings to make me feel the dishes were safe.
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