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11am Charley now 90MPH

#1481 Postby Guest » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:51 am

slowly gaining strength

Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on August 12, 2004



...Charley getting a little stronger...Hurricane Watch extended
northward along the Florida west coast...
A Hurricane Warning remains in effect for the Florida Keys from the
Dry Tortugas to the Seven Mile bridge...and for the southwest
Florida coast from East Cape Sable to Bonita Beach. The warning
will likely be extended northward later today or tonight. A
Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
within the warning area within the next 24 hours. Preparations to
protect life and property should be rushed to completion.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...the Hurricane Watch has been extended
northward along the Florida west coast to the Suwannee river. The
Hurricane Watch is now in effect from north of Bonita Beach to the
Suwannee river. A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions
are possible within the watch area...generally within 36 hours.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the Florida Keys from
the Seven Mile bridge to Ocean Reef...and along the South Florida
Mainland from Ocean Reef to East Cape Sable...including all of
Florida Bay. A tropical storm watch may be required for portions of
the Florida east coast later today.

A Hurricane Warning remains in effect for the Cayman Islands.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...the government of Cuba has issued a Hurricane
Warning for the following provinces of western Cuba...Pinar del Rio
...La Habana...Ciudad de la Habana...Matanzas...and the Isle of
Youth.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...the government of Jamaica has discontinued
all warnings for Jamaica.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...information from reconnaissance aircraft
and radar from Cuba indicate the center of Hurricane Charley was
located near latitude 19.7 north... longitude 81.2 west or about
25 miles... 40 km... north of Grand Cayman.

Charley is moving toward the northwest near 17 mph...28 km/hr. A
turn to the north-northwest is expected later today.

Maximum sustained winds are near 90 mph...150 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Some strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 25 miles... 35 km...
from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up
to 115 miles...185 km.

The minimum central pressure recently reported by reconnaissance
aircraft was 983 mb...29.03 inches.

Above normal tides...accompanied by large and dangerous battering
waves...are expected in the Cayman Islands later today. Storm surge
flooding of 2 to 4 feet can be expected in the Florida Keys. Storm
surge flooding of 6 to 10 feet are possible along the southwest
Florida coast.

Rainfall totals of 4 to 8 inches are likely in association with
Charley. These rains could cause life-threatening flash floods
and mud slides.

Repeating the 11 am EDT position...19.7 N... 81.2 W. Movement
toward...northwest near 17 mph. Maximum sustained
winds... 90 mph. Minimum central pressure... 983 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor
products issued by your local weather office.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane
Center at 2 PM EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 5 PM
EDT.

Forecaster Stewart
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#1482 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:51 am

Hurricane Charley Advisory Number 12

Statement as of 11:00 am EDT on August 12, 2004

...Charley getting a little stronger...Hurricane Watch extended
northward along the Florida west coast...

A Hurricane Warning remains in effect for the Florida Keys from the
Dry Tortugas to the Seven Mile bridge...and for the southwest
Florida coast from East Cape Sable to Bonita Beach. The warning
will likely be extended northward later today or tonight. A
Hurricane Warning means that hurricane conditions are expected
within the warning area within the next 24 hours. Preparations to
protect life and property should be rushed to completion.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...the Hurricane Watch has been extended
northward along the Florida west coast to the Suwannee river. The
Hurricane Watch is now in effect from north of Bonita Beach to the
Suwannee river. A Hurricane Watch means that hurricane conditions
are possible within the watch area...generally within 36 hours.

A Tropical Storm Warning remains in effect for the Florida Keys from
the Seven Mile bridge to Ocean Reef...and along the South Florida
Mainland from Ocean Reef to East Cape Sable...including all of
Florida Bay. A tropical storm watch may be required for portions of
the Florida east coast later today.

A Hurricane Warning remains in effect for the Cayman Islands.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...the government of Cuba has issued a Hurricane
Warning for the following provinces of western Cuba...Pinar del Rio
...La Habana...Ciudad de la Habana...Matanzas...and the Isle of
Youth.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...the government of Jamaica has discontinued
all warnings for Jamaica.

At 11 am EDT...1500z...information from reconnaissance aircraft
and radar from Cuba indicate the center of Hurricane Charley was
located near latitude 19.7 north... longitude 81.2 west or about
25 miles... 40 km... north of Grand Cayman.

Charley is moving toward the northwest near 17 mph...28 km/hr. A
turn to the north-northwest is expected later today.

Maximum sustained winds are near 90 mph...150 km/hr...with higher
gusts. Some strengthening is forecast during the next 24 hours.

Hurricane force winds extend outward up to 25 miles... 35 km...
from the center...and tropical storm force winds extend outward up
to 115 miles...185 km.

The minimum central pressure recently reported by reconnaissance
aircraft was 983 mb...29.03 inches.

Above normal tides...accompanied by large and dangerous battering
waves...are expected in the Cayman Islands later today. Storm surge
flooding of 2 to 4 feet can be expected in the Florida Keys. Storm
surge flooding of 6 to 10 feet are possible along the southwest
Florida coast.

Rainfall totals of 4 to 8 inches are likely in association with
Charley. These rains could cause life-threatening flash floods
and mud slides.

Repeating the 11 am EDT position...19.7 N... 81.2 W. Movement
toward...northwest near 17 mph. Maximum sustained
winds... 90 mph. Minimum central pressure... 983 mb.

For storm information specific to your area...please monitor
products issued by your local weather office.

An intermediate advisory will be issued by the National Hurricane
Center at 2 PM EDT followed by the next complete advisory at 5 PM
EDT.
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#1483 Postby Guest » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:53 am

I see you deleted yours huh. :roll:
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#1484 Postby DoctorHurricane2003 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:54 am

Wow...the NHC is contradicting itself...

Forecast Advisory says 75 KT (85 MPH)

Public Advisory says 90 MPH (80 KT)

:?:
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#1485 Postby Thunder44 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:54 am

The Marine Advisory is incorrect in the initial winds. It says 75kts, meaning near 85mph, but the Public Advisory says 90mph.
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Charley's Landfall: Just North of Tampa?

#1486 Postby donsutherland1 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:55 am

Overnight, Charley continued to track in a general northwest direction.

August 11 11pm: 17.8N 78.7W
August 12 8 am: 19.2N 80.5W
August 12 11 am: 19.7N 81.2W

A gradual turn more to the north-northwest should continue as the day wears on. By late afternoon, Charley should be centered somewhere in the vicinity of 20.5N 82.0W.

The latest 12Z run of the ETA, particularly its 24 hour, 30 hour, and 36 hour images (SEE ANIMATION) provides a good illustration of Charley's likely track (probably somewhere between the 576 and 582 meter lines).

<img src="http://www5.wright-weather.com/bb/attachment.php?s=&postid=294873">

At this time, most of the hurricane-related computer models also are in reasonably good agreement though they are somewhat farther to the west than the actual track shown on the ETA.

<img src="http://www5.wright-weather.com/bb/attachment.php?s=&postid=294871">

Consequently, the most likely point of landfall appears to just north of Tampa. Landfall farther to the north and west e.g., on the eastern Panhandle cannot be ruled out nor can a landfall somewhat to Tampa's south. However, if the idea of a landfall just to Tampa's north holds, it should be noted that Tampa should be in the storm's more dangerous eastern side.

At landfall, Charley should be a Category 2 storm given SSTAs and shear environment. Already, his pressure has fallen to 983 mb with maximum winds up to 90 mph. There is a smaller but still reasonable possibility that Charley could attain Category 3 status.

From there, Charley will likely accelerate to the north-northeast, but it could pass briefly over the Atlantic Ocean enroute to a second landfall somewhere along the northeastern Georgia or South Carolina coast. An inland track is also possible.

Afterward, Charley should bring copious amounts of rain along and to the west of its track. Thus, waterlogged parts of the Mid-Atlantic region could see significant flooding, especially as Bonnie's remnants--Bonnie is now making landfall near Apalachicola, FL with 50 mph winds--should increase the risk of flooding ahead of Charley's arrival.

On the beneficial side, localized areas of drought should be dented in parts of Georgia and South Carolina.

<img src="http://www5.wright-weather.com/bb/attachment.php?s=&postid=294874">
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#1487 Postby Thunder44 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:56 am

The marine advisory has just been corrected

http://www.weatherunderground.com/tropi ... arine.html
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#1488 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:57 am

Thunder44 wrote:The Marine Advisory is incorrect in the initial winds. It says 75kts, meaning near 85mph, but the Public Advisory says 90mph.


Yes... :oops:
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#1489 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 12, 2004 9:58 am

DoctorHurricane2003 wrote:Wow...the NHC is contradicting itself...

Forecast Advisory says 75 KT (85 MPH)

Public Advisory says 90 MPH (80 KT)

:?:


It caused my headline to be wrong too. :roll:

Recon must have found stronger winds. 83 kt does NOT support 90 mph at the surface.
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#1490 Postby CaptinCrunch » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:01 am

If Charley makes a N of Tampa land fall what type of surge will the Bay see?? should cause massive flooding.
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#1491 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:01 am

Guess it's now safe to say that all of Central Florida is now in the hurricane watch area,.
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#1492 Postby The Dark Knight » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:01 am

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#1493 Postby NJCane » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:03 am

The winds on that graphic are wrong as well...
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#1494 Postby donsutherland1 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:04 am

CaptinCrunch,

That will all depend on the timing (with respect to tides), exact track, and windspeed.
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#1495 Postby Brent » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:06 am

Track is slower... landfall around nightfall at Tampa now.
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#1496 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:06 am

Yep.. looks like a Central Florida landfall if it comes this way..

Hope it doesn't have any explosive developments.. I am 65-70 miles from Tampa but still watching on pins and needles because I have a good idea I'll be seeing hurricane force winds I'm sure.,
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#1497 Postby donsutherland1 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:08 am

It can't hurt to pay careful attention. The track could vary just a little.

I have some close friends from Tampa who are on vacation in Europe right now and will alert them to the possibility so that they can contact neighbors to keep a close eye on their home.
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#1498 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:10 am

Good idea Don..
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#1499 Postby Stephanie » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:10 am

Thanks for the analysis don and the graphics. A Cat 2 hitting the Tampa area IS NOT GOOD!
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#1500 Postby Anonymous » Thu Aug 12, 2004 10:11 am

I think you are being a big conservative with the winds, maybe by about 5 knots or so not much. Im calling 110 knots at landfall. For right now Charley is getting stronger and deepening, as the ULL to its west doesnt seem to have the same affect on it.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/PS/TROP/DATA/RT ... -loop.html

The intensity of the storm when it hits Florida is vital to a couple of things. If the storm was to track over the island directly to the south of Cuba's western tip, as well as the island of cuba, the intensity would be less as it would be traveling over more land. However, if Charley goes to the east of that island and only tracks over the slender portion of Cuba right SW of the keys, than the winds may be a bit higher as it would have less land it has traveled over.
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