NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion: Update= Made Landfall at 185 mph / 892 mbs

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2101 Postby Jr0d » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:38 pm

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Stormgodess wrote:Can we expect an increase in storm surge forcasts for Mellisa as she strengthens? I realize topography plays a huge role, but I can't help but remember Katrina's 20ft + surge in Mississippi and wonder if 13ft for Melissa is lacking?


Katrina was much larger in size though, especially after the ERC. Now, if Melissa misses Jamaica, goes into an ERC and expands out, then that could be a major issue for Cuba. That is what happened in 1932.


Also the shallow water off the coast in Mississippi enhances storm surge where Jamaica has deep water offshore. They will have much higher waves hitting the coast however, resulting in much worse erosion. The bays of Jamaica that will see onshore winds( the right side of Melissa on the south coast)however can see much more extreme surge as the water will pile in with no where to go but up.

That is my understanding of storm surge, but I am not an expert.


Another factor is elevation, the elevation rises quickly in Jamaica making most residential areas high enough to not worry about it, even those less than a mile from the shore, unfortunately landslides will be a major concern because of this.

If you look at Mississippi and Louisiana, you can be 10 miles from the shore, but still less than 10' above sea level in some areas, making them vulnerable to extreme surge.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2102 Postby Fancy1002 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:39 pm

We have to give it to Melissa just how many Eyewall mergers she’s had without going through any full replacements to my knowledge.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2103 Postby SconnieCane » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:40 pm

Just looked up Savanna-la-Mar since it looks like one of the larger population centers at risk of getting the eyewall. Apparently it has a history with severe hurricanes:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1780_Atla ... _Hurricane
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2104 Postby mrbagyo » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:44 pm

162 FL
Didn't enter the eye and veered SE
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2105 Postby WaveBreaking » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:45 pm

From earlier today

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2106 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:47 pm

Now we wait for the dropsonde.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2107 Postby dukeblue219 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:48 pm

mrbagyo wrote:162 FL
Didn't enter the eye and veered SE


Sure they did. The winds went to near zero then they popped out.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2108 Postby Teban54 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:49 pm

You can really see how much the CDO has expanded:

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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2109 Postby cheezyWXguy » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:54 pm

-80c ring trying to thicken back toward the immediate eyewall. Almost feels like we’re watching it breathe as the ring expands and contracts.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2110 Postby zzzh » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:57 pm

903mb 11kt.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2111 Postby Owasso » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:57 pm

903mb with 11kts
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2112 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:58 pm

zzzh wrote:903mb 11kt.


Supports 902 mb. Looks like it is stabilizing.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2113 Postby Hurricane2022 » Mon Oct 27, 2025 11:59 pm

She may have stabilized at 155 kt/900 mb. I wouldn't rule a bit more strengthening but i'm thinking Meli has reached her maximum.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2114 Postby mrbagyo » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:01 am

dukeblue219 wrote:
mrbagyo wrote:162 FL
Didn't enter the eye and veered SE


Sure they did. The winds went to near zero then they popped out.


ay yeah they did.
903 dropsonde
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2115 Postby Jr0d » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:02 am

043630 1642N 07830W 6971 02271 //// +210 //// 279027 036 018 003 05

When we got 902.8mb earlier the height was 2308m @697.2mb

Now we are 2271m @ 697.1mb, J believe that also supports about a 900mb syrface pressure.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2116 Postby sasha_B » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:02 am

Hurricane2022 wrote:She may have stabilized at 155 kt/900 mb. I wouldn't rule a bit more strengthening but i'm thinking Meli has reached her maximum.


This is a realistic & reasonable assessment, and could well be Melissa's peak on the TCR. There was no further deepening on the last pass, though, so my guess is we get 150 kt / 902 hPa on the 06z advisory, at most.
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2117 Postby Fancy1002 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:04 am

Where’s Wxman by the way, I would love to hear his thoughts on Melissa?
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2118 Postby Hayabusa » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:09 am

ADT reaching a CI of 8.5 @185 kts :double:
2025OCT28 034020 8.5 871.5 185.0 8.5 8.6 8.6 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 19.17 -81.36 EYE 15 IR 37.7 16.62 78.51 ARCHER GOES19 19.8
2025OCT28 041020 8.5 871.5 185.0 8.5 8.5 8.5 NO LIMIT OFF OFF OFF OFF 18.39 -81.03 EYE 14 IR 37.7 16.67 78.49 ARCHER GOES19 19.9
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2119 Postby Hurricane2022 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:09 am

CDO seems to be cooling a bit again :x
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Re: NATL: MELISSA - Hurricane - Discussion

#2120 Postby Teban54 » Tue Oct 28, 2025 12:15 am

If Melissa can stabilize in its current state until landfall in Jamaica - and that's a pretty big if - it can easily break records for most intense landfalling pressures.

Wikipedia has a list of pressure records by peak and landfall. Maintaining its current, official pressure of 903 mb would make Melissa the 4th most intense landfall, only behind 1935 Labor Day (892 mb), Gilbert (900 mb) and Camille (900 mb).

In all likelihood, some weaking is quite likely. But Melissa can weaken all the way up to 918 mb (a difference of 15 mb from now) and still join the list of the 10 most intense landfalls.

In the event that Melissa somehow strengthens further and achieves sub-900 until landfall... Not only would it become the 7th recorded sub-900 mb storm anywhere, but it would also become only the second ever sub-900 mb landfall.


Note: The screenshot below is sorted by landfall pressure, so the peak pressure column is unsorted.

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