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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#241 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:11 am

cycloneye wrote:11 PM advisorie has two M's at the end of forecast period at graphic. Still southern side of cone is over some of the northern leeward islands, BVI and U.SVI.

https://i.imgur.com/GUbaXkc.png


Although some of the islands are in the cone, the model consensus at that point is fairly tight and spares them. So perhaps lower risk than you might typically feel at the edge of the cone.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#242 Postby NDG » Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:24 am

The SE US is very lucky the -NAO is going negative just in time.

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#243 Postby cycloneye » Wed Aug 13, 2025 7:54 am

A new burst of deep convection over the circulation.

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#244 Postby jlauderdal » Wed Aug 13, 2025 8:02 am

Nimbus wrote:Erin looks pretty weak this morning she is drying out between convective bursts but will be over warmer SST's as she crosses -45W and still has a closed circulation center. Weakness dropping down over Bermuda overnight still too far north for a weak system to feel. Small chance Erin ends up too far south and doesn't get picked up in time like Irma.

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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#245 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Wed Aug 13, 2025 8:22 am

cycloneye wrote:A new burst of deep convection over the circulation.

https://i.imgur.com/4pl8RRK.png


She is started to get "that look"
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#246 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 13, 2025 8:30 am

MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
cycloneye wrote:11 PM advisorie has two M's at the end of forecast period at graphic. Still southern side of cone is over some of the northern leeward islands, BVI and U.SVI.

https://i.imgur.com/GUbaXkc.png


Although some of the islands are in the cone, the model consensus at that point is fairly tight and spares them. So perhaps lower risk than you might typically feel at the edge of the cone.


As a reminder the cone is meaningless as far as potential impacts. It has nothing to do with forecast confidence for this storm, and it does not have anything to do with Erin's projected wind field or squalls. All the cone represents is a 5-year average track error. It says that 66.7% of the time over the past five seasons, the center of the storm tracked somewhere within that cone. Do NOT use the cone for planning purposes or to assess potential storm impacts.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#247 Postby Bizzles » Wed Aug 13, 2025 8:38 am

wxman57 wrote:
MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
cycloneye wrote:11 PM advisorie has two M's at the end of forecast period at graphic. Still southern side of cone is over some of the northern leeward islands, BVI and U.SVI.

https://i.imgur.com/GUbaXkc.png


Although some of the islands are in the cone, the model consensus at that point is fairly tight and spares them. So perhaps lower risk than you might typically feel at the edge of the cone.


As a reminder the cone is meaningless as far as potential impacts. It has nothing to do with forecast confidence for this storm, and it does not have anything to do with Erin's projected wind field or squalls. All the cone represents is a 5-year average track error. It says that 66.7% of the time over the past five seasons, the center of the storm tracked somewhere within that cone. Do NOT use the cone for planning purposes or to assess potential storm impacts.

Great point Wxman57! Would you share what products you would keep an eye on as we get closer to better understand what potential impacts (surge, wind, etc) could be?
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#248 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:00 am

wxman57 wrote:
MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
cycloneye wrote:11 PM advisorie has two M's at the end of forecast period at graphic. Still southern side of cone is over some of the northern leeward islands, BVI and U.SVI.

https://i.imgur.com/GUbaXkc.png


Although some of the islands are in the cone, the model consensus at that point is fairly tight and spares them. So perhaps lower risk than you might typically feel at the edge of the cone.


As a reminder the cone is meaningless as far as potential impacts. It has nothing to do with forecast confidence for this storm, and it does not have anything to do with Erin's projected wind field or squalls. All the cone represents is a 5-year average track error. It says that 66.7% of the time over the past five seasons, the center of the storm tracked somewhere within that cone. Do NOT use the cone for planning purposes or to assess potential storm impacts.


That's my point - it is based on historical average error which may be more or less applicable to any given storm. This storm, there appears to be higher-than-average consensus through 5 days, so the center is more likely to stay within the cone. And as you say, wind field may extend well beyond the center, etc. The northern leeward islands will likely feel some impacts but hopefully will be spared the worst of it.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#249 Postby wxman57 » Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:18 am

Bizzles wrote:
wxman57 wrote:
MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS wrote:
Although some of the islands are in the cone, the model consensus at that point is fairly tight and spares them. So perhaps lower risk than you might typically feel at the edge of the cone.


As a reminder the cone is meaningless as far as potential impacts. It has nothing to do with forecast confidence for this storm, and it does not have anything to do with Erin's projected wind field or squalls. All the cone represents is a 5-year average track error. It says that 66.7% of the time over the past five seasons, the center of the storm tracked somewhere within that cone. Do NOT use the cone for planning purposes or to assess potential storm impacts.

Great point Wxman57! Would you share what products you would keep an eye on as we get closer to better understand what potential impacts (surge, wind, etc) could be?


Unless you have access to your own meteorologist, then it's best to pay attention to the latest official information from the NHC and your local NWS office. I always read the forecast discussions to get an idea what the forecaster was thinking. For you in NJ, surf's up come next Thursday/Friday! Erin should be a very large and powerful hurricane next Wednesday as it passes by Bermuda. Lots of big waves into the coast as it passes.
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#250 Postby Cachondo23 » Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:50 am

Currently at 16.4N, how low will it go?
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Re: ATL: ERIN - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#251 Postby Teban54 » Wed Aug 13, 2025 9:50 am

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