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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#81 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 05, 2025 8:29 pm

Maybe a small increase of convection but not too much.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#82 Postby wzrgirl1 » Fri Sep 05, 2025 9:04 pm

I still think it’s going to come back and form middle of next week. It’s not over till it’s over.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#83 Postby emeraldislenc » Fri Sep 05, 2025 9:17 pm

I agree still have to watch it. Too many people are saying "next." But I think we should keep a watchful eye.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#84 Postby Woofde » Fri Sep 05, 2025 10:14 pm

It's taken a step backward in development over the past 12 hours. The vorticity signature looks worse and the dry air infront is clearly hindering convection. Maybe it gets it's act together later in the Subtropics? A lot would need to happen quickly for this to threaten the islands now.ImageImageImage
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#85 Postby Teban54 » Fri Sep 05, 2025 10:50 pm

The long-awaited convection at 12N finally appeared, except that to my untrained eye, they seem offset to the west of the low-level features.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#86 Postby AutoPenalti » Fri Sep 05, 2025 11:13 pm

Teban54 wrote:The long-awaited convection at 12N finally appeared, except that to my untrained eye, they seem offset to the west of the low-level features.

https://i.postimg.cc/L5G0qV1y/goes19-ir-91-L-202509060115.gif

Entering DMIN, so have to wait and see.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#87 Postby Travorum » Fri Sep 05, 2025 11:25 pm

ASCAT shows a day without convection has significantly degraded whatever circulation 91L was attempting to develop:

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Convection does seem to be increasing over the past few hours as DMIN approaches but it is still displaced northwest of the broad low level circulation. 91L's not quite dead yet but its heading that way if it can't maintain convection near its broad LLC, which most models show it failing to do over the next few days.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#88 Postby ouragans » Sat Sep 06, 2025 1:45 am

Tropical Atlantic (AL91):
Shower and thunderstorm activity remains limited in association with
a tropical wave over the central tropical Atlantic. A drier air mass
is limiting the potential for development over the next couple of
days, and environmental conditions will remain only marginally
favorable thereafter. A tropical depression could form during the
early to middle part of next week as the system moves westward at
around 10 mph across the central tropical Atlantic. This system is
likely to be near the Lesser Antilles by the middle to latter part
of next week, and interests there should monitor its progress.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...medium...60 percent.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#89 Postby al78 » Sat Sep 06, 2025 2:30 am

It is turning out like this analogy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNYWcVq_h8g
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#90 Postby jlauderdal » Sat Sep 06, 2025 5:10 am

al78 wrote:It is turning out like this analogy:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNYWcVq_h8g

Or a false start, 5 yard penalty. ACE is down and so is post count on this board :D
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#91 Postby GCANE » Sat Sep 06, 2025 6:35 am

Oceansat is showing a nice closed circulation.
This is sitting in a low-shear environment, so convection at this point will be limited.
Waiting to see if it taps into the high moist air from the Amazon which will be around 50W.
Going to be a couple days.
Models hate it, but they have a bad record on development.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#92 Postby GCANE » Sat Sep 06, 2025 6:38 am

Some overshooting cloud tops at dawn.
Not dead yet.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/60)

#93 Postby GCANE » Sat Sep 06, 2025 6:41 am

Has convection firing along a dryline.
Very typical of a pouch moving thru the MDR at this point.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (30/30)

#94 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 06, 2025 6:42 am

Chances are decreasing for a TD to form.

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
800 AM EDT Sat Sep 6 2025

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of America:

Tropical Atlantic (AL91):
A tropical wave over the central tropical Atlantic is producing a
small area of disorganized showers and thunderstorms. Environmental
conditions are only marginally conducive for development, and the
chances of this system becoming a tropical depression are
decreasing. The wave is expected to move generally westward at 10
to 15 mph, and will likely be near the Lesser Antilles by the middle
part of next week. Interests there should monitor its progress.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...30 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...30 percent.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (20/20)

#95 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:33 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Sat Sep 6 2025

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of America:

Tropical Atlantic (AL91):
A tropical wave over the central tropical Atlantic is producing a
small area of shower activity. Environmental conditions are only
marginally conducive for development, and the chances of this
system becoming a tropical depression continue to diminish. The
wave is expected to move generally westward at 10 to 15 mph, and
will likely be near the Lesser Antilles by the middle part of next
week. Interests there should monitor its progress.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...20 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...20 percent.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (20/20)

#96 Postby Hypercane_Kyle » Sat Sep 06, 2025 12:39 pm

Pretty spectacular model fail across the board on this one. Total ghost storm.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (20/20)

#97 Postby galaxy401 » Sat Sep 06, 2025 1:12 pm

Not a good look for the Atlantic to have a disturbance in the MDR region in early September and have unfavorable conditions.

Power of the unfavorable MJO.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (20/20)

#98 Postby LarryWx » Sat Sep 06, 2025 1:21 pm

galaxy401 wrote:Not a good look for the Atlantic to have a disturbance in the MDR region in early September and have unfavorable conditions.

Power of the unfavorable MJO.


Interestingly, the MJO isn’t unfavorable. It’s currently in phase 2 and has been since Sep 2.

http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/mjo/#tabs=Monitoring
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (20/20)

#99 Postby MEANINGLESS_NUMBERS » Sat Sep 06, 2025 1:25 pm

Hypercane_Kyle wrote:Pretty spectacular model fail across the board on this one. Total ghost storm.


One of the biggest busts in recent memory. And since all models failed I assume it has to be a data input issue?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion (20/20)

#100 Postby chaser1 » Sat Sep 06, 2025 2:55 pm

It's throwing arc clouds.
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