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ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#1 Postby Subtrop » Tue Jun 11, 2024 7:22 am

AL, 90, 2024061112, , BEST, 0, 264N, 847W, 20, 1009, DB, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1010, 140, 120, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, INVEST, S, 0, , 0, 0, 0, 0, genesis-num, 004, SPAWNINVEST, al742024 to al902024,


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#2 Postby Tampa Bay Hurricane » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:08 am

Some spiral banding and a surface low attempting to form- fighting lots of shear, breezy in Tampa Bay
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#3 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:27 am

Tampa Bay Hurricane wrote:Some spiral banding and a surface low attempting to form- fighting lots of shear, breezy in Tampa Bay

The Gulf is not favorable or even close. We will see what it finds off JAX in a few days. NWS seems to have a good handle on the situation south of the 1-4 corridor. Tomorrow into Thursday should be a kill shot for some people with the flooding. Today, the soil moistened up, and tomorrow, FFG goes way down with saturated ground.
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#4 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 11, 2024 8:48 am

The biggest concern is the high amounts of rain.

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#5 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Jun 11, 2024 10:31 am

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#6 Postby Sciencerocks » Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:39 am

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#7 Postby psyclone » Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:53 am

Very heavy rain has developed and persisted at the northern edge of this deep moisture just off of Pasco County where radar estimates of 6" in 3 hours. I'm just about 25 miles SE of this hot zone and I'm still working on my first .1". Predicting rain bombs is a tough game
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#8 Postby StPeteMike » Tue Jun 11, 2024 11:58 am

psyclone wrote:Very heavy rain has developed and persisted at the northern edge of this deep moisture just off of Pasco County where radar estimates of 6" in 3 hours. I'm just about 25 miles SE of this hot zone and I'm still working on my first .1". Predicting rain bombs is a tough game

I was hoping we would get the 6+ rain forecasted a couple days ago but seems like much of the Tampa Bay Area (besides West Pasco it seems) will only get a few inches.
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#9 Postby ElectricStorm » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:27 pm

First invest of what could be a pretty big year. Doubt this one does much though, maybe an outside chance of a TD.
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#10 Postby MGC » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:28 pm

Looks like a weak low is forming SW of Tampa Bay......MGC
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#11 Postby cycloneye » Tue Jun 11, 2024 12:35 pm

Tropical Weather Outlook
NWS National Hurricane Center Miami FL
200 PM EDT Tue Jun 11 2024

For the North Atlantic...Caribbean Sea and the Gulf of Mexico:

1. Eastern Gulf of Mexico and Offshore Southeast U.S. (AL90):
A broad area of low pressure over the eastern Gulf of Mexico is
producing a large area of disorganized showers and thunderstorms.
This system is expected to move northeastward across Florida during
the next day or so and move offshore of the U.S. Southeast coast
later this week. Environmental conditions are expected to be
generally unfavorable, although some slow development is possible
when the system is offshore of the U.S. Southeast coast. Regardless
of development, heavy rainfall is already occuring and is expected
to continue across portions of Florida during the next few days.
For more information, see products issued by the Weather Prediction
Center and local National Weather Service Forecast Offices.
* Formation chance through 48 hours...low...10 percent.
* Formation chance through 7 days...low...20 percent.


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www.wpc.ncep.noaa.gov and National Weather Service forecast
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#12 Postby TheAustinMan » Tue Jun 11, 2024 1:43 pm

While models have depicted the current circulation over the Gulf of Mexico stretching out over Florida and generally not remaining intact, the overall system has done fairly well in fostering a persistent low-level circulation along the trough axis draped over Florida in the face of very strong wind shear. Since the possible system to be is expected to mostly concern the reformation of vorticity off the Southeastern US, it's unclear whether the degree of organization of this system within the Gulf has much of an affect on its developmental chances later on. Radar-observed wind velocities 6-7 kft above the ocean near this center of circulation have routinely exceeded 40 kt. Could be near or over Tampa Bay in 4 or so hours. As far as tropical systems go, it's a few steps removed from 2017's Tropical Storm Emily, which had some broad overall structural similarities when it too developed near the Tampa Bay area.

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#13 Postby psyclone » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:04 pm

We are getting absolutely hosed in Northern Pinellas. Dumpfest McBuckets value meal. It is wonderful! 4" and counting near the Pasco/Pinellas line and it continues to dump
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#14 Postby Weatherboy1 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 2:49 pm

Getting the “eyewall” storms/rain here in SRQ basically. Good thing it’s just a low pressure!
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#15 Postby skyline385 » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:21 pm

TheAustinMan wrote:While models have depicted the current circulation over the Gulf of Mexico stretching out over Florida and generally not remaining intact, the overall system has done fairly well in fostering a persistent low-level circulation along the trough axis draped over Florida in the face of very strong wind shear. Since the possible system to be is expected to mostly concern the reformation of vorticity off the Southeastern US, it's unclear whether the degree of organization of this system within the Gulf has much of an affect on its developmental chances later on. Radar-observed wind velocities 6-7 kft above the ocean near this center of circulation have routinely exceeded 40 kt. Could be near or over Tampa Bay in 4 or so hours. As far as tropical systems go, it's a few steps removed from 2017's Tropical Storm Emily, which had some broad overall structural similarities when it too developed near the Tampa Bay area.

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The low level circulation very visible on radar now west of Sarasota

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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#16 Postby StormPyrate » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:42 pm

psyclone wrote:We are getting absolutely hosed in Northern Pinellas. Dumpfest McBuckets value meal. It is wonderful! 4" and counting near the Pasco/Pinellas line and it continues to dump


It so spotty, here at the Largo / Pinellas line we have had just shy of an inch.
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#17 Postby StormWeather » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:44 pm

I’m new here, but I have witnessed the past few ATL hurricane seasons (21,22 and 23)

Is it possible that this could form?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#18 Postby Zonacane » Tue Jun 11, 2024 3:50 pm

I spy a swirl.
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#19 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:46 pm

StormPyrate wrote:
psyclone wrote:We are getting absolutely hosed in Northern Pinellas. Dumpfest McBuckets value meal. It is wonderful! 4" and counting near the Pasco/Pinellas line and it continues to dump


It so spotty, here at the Largo / Pinellas line we have had just shy of an inch.
3.13 for the day, more on the way per radar and the hrrr. Drought buster in progress.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 90L - Discussion

#20 Postby psyclone » Tue Jun 11, 2024 4:50 pm

Coastal Manatee and Sarasota are getting crushed. Here's to hoping this is the highlight of the tropical season for west central FL. There's a good chance it is considering our geographic advantage and non stop good luck. The sun has returned here in North Pinellas after a 4"+ water dump which immediately soaked in.
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