Connecticut City Votes to Evict Homeowners-Eminent Domain

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#41 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:26 am

From Merriam-Webster Dictionary:

Main Entry: 1li·bel
Pronunciation: 'lI-b&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, written declaration, from Middle French, from Latin libellus, diminutive of liber book
1 a : a written statement in which a plaintiff in certain courts sets forth the cause of action or the relief sought b archaic : a handbill especially attacking or defaming someone
2 a : a written or oral defamatory statement or representation that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression b (1) : a statement or representation published without just cause and tending to expose another to public contempt (2) : defamation of a person by written or representational means (3) : the publication of blasphemous, treasonable, seditious, or obscene writings or pictures (4) : the act, tort, or crime of publishing such a libel

Lots of wiggle room on the definition of it there; but that's what Merriam Webster has to say being just a tad more complete on the issue:


if you have the money to smoke and don't care about killing yourself, I say go nuts.


The presumptions made there "might" be viewed as libelous; but I readily admit it's a huge stretch... as it would be for just about any metaphorical references made by anyone. I can't begin to count how many times I've read Madonna described as a (supply your own word)... or a particular public official described as (supply your own word)..with innuendos about stealing this, or robbing that... and yet libel winds up being claimed only in the rarest of instances... and for good reason. It goes MUCH further than a dictionary definition. It requires, as stated earlier true malice aforethought, usually being "published" and in the cases of major public officials is almost never enforced simply because of all the vagaries involved.

While I've seen many passionate things on many threads in my short time on S2K, I don't believe I've seen anything tantamount to adjudicative "libel" as yet--and seriously doubt I will.

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#42 Postby angelwing » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:29 am

If anyone ever ever dared to take my property away from me, they would be shot on sight, I couldn't care less who it was, I worked for my property, I paid for my property, it's mine, period!
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#43 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:34 am

Saying that someone who is in dire straits for money should stop smoking is not libel. It's not even slightly rude


This was not the quote to which she referred... see above: :uarrow:

Calling someone a rip-off artist is indeed libel.


Nice game of semantics; but it "legally" won't wash. I think I explained the metaphorical references already, and the reason true "libel" is rarely litigated in previous posts. People use these perhaps potentially libelous labels all the times; but making an officious statement that something IS libel, is only something which a court can do; and in all honesty, I think this thing is WAYYY too overblown, as no one in here is clearly trying to "libel" anyone--- passionate, yes, libelous, no.

S2K doesn't now, nor has it ever "supported" libel, IMHO. :wink:

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#44 Postby GalvestonDuck » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:41 am

Regit wrote:I should also mention that calling the council members "rip-off artists" is libel.


If that's the case, just imagine how many movie critics could be sued for libel when giving actors and directors poor reviews.

Clearly, A2K's comment was an opinion and nothing more.

Audrey2Katrina wrote:S2K doesn't now, nor has it ever "supported" libel, IMHO. :wink: A2K


Ditto that. We don't.

Regit, there are other boards if you have an issue with the way Storm2K is being moderated.

If not, can you guys please get back to the original topic at hand instead of hijacking the thread into a debate that has little to do with article?
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#45 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:41 am

angelwing wrote:If anyone ever ever dared to take my property away from me, they would be shot on sight, I couldn't care less who it was, I worked for my property, I paid for my property, it's mine, period!


I understand how you feel, angelwing; fortunately neither you nor I happen to be in the shoes of the victims of the apparently loose interpretations going on with regard to this. Someone earlier suggested that "public good" needs to be defined better, and truly it does; but sadly in the ruling THIS court gave-- they rather than IMO doing their duty to defend the people of the states, opted to pass the buck--something they have NOT always done on such critical civil rights issues, and IMO one's right to one's own property is decidedly that important. But what do we know?

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#46 Postby angelwing » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:42 am

I know A2K, I just get highly upset when I see such laws go thru, but you're right, what do we know, sigh.
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#47 Postby Stephanie » Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:46 am

Janice wrote:Please don't lock my post..... this is interesting... I actually think some people are concerned especially living on the beaches, etc.


Thanks Duckie for the backup.

It is a great thread Janice, but there are always some that like to hijack threads.
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#48 Postby Cookiely » Thu Jun 08, 2006 8:37 pm

When I was nine years old I saw a movie with Montgomery Clift called Wild River. Anyone remember the movie?
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#49 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Thu Jun 08, 2006 9:10 pm

Only Vaguely... something about a little old lady who wouldn't move off some island because a dam or something was going to flood her land... I dunno, cloudy; but I recall a lot of those old movies.... kind'a dates me 8-)

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