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#1 Postby BUD » Thu Oct 19, 2006 1:52 am

very long

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ries&hl=en


a new video about 9/11.I have nothing to say.
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#2 Postby O Town » Thu Oct 19, 2006 5:58 am

I just watched the first few minutes and I am intrigued. I will definitly watch when I have more time.
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#3 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:24 am

Another conspiracy theory? An hour and a half long?

Thanks, but no thanks....

I know what brought the towers down and no one can tell me otherwise.
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#4 Postby Josephine96 » Thu Oct 19, 2006 9:33 am

I'm watching it now.. seems very interesting..
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#5 Postby gtalum » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:17 am

Yet another baseless film by people who don't know anything about structural dynamics or metallurgy.
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#6 Postby gtalum » Thu Oct 19, 2006 10:39 am

This is hilarious! Most of the conspiracy theories claim that the clean collapse proves it was explosives. Thsi one claims that teh collapse was so uncontained that it must have bene explosives. :D

Morons.
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#7 Postby JenBayles » Thu Oct 19, 2006 11:52 am

If you really want to understand what happened regarding the engineering of the structures, read a book titled "102 Minutes". It is absolutely riveting and covers the 102 minutes from when the 1st tower was hit until they both fell. IMHO, should be required reading for everyone in the country.
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#8 Postby Regit » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:07 pm

Whenever a conspiracy theory comes up you should ask yourself how many people must be involved.

If it would only take a few people, then it's plausible. If it would take hundreds (such as TWA 800, 9/11, etc), there was probably no conspiracy involved.
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#9 Postby jasons2k » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:30 pm

Just read the Popular Mechanics articles on why 9/11 wasn't a conspiracy.
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#10 Postby gtalum » Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:34 pm

I just watched the film. The basic precepts are all flawed, and they conceal their ignorance with scientific-sounding language and by piecing together out-of-context clips from various experts.

There are a few keys that tear the whoel theory apart:

1) Steel doesn't have to melt for the building to collapse. The structure of the entire WTC building relied on small clips that held the floor joists to the outer shell and inner core of the building. Heat wilseverely degrade the strength of stell well below the melting temperature of steel is reached. The floors around the crash sites were already severely stressed as the airplanes themselves knocked out a good bit of support. Add to that the flames, burning at half the melting temperature of steel, and its understandable why the floor clips failed causing the buildings to pancake down.

2) The "explosions" repeatedly claimed are easily explained as noises caused by the immense stress and energy release as steel is stressed in directions it was not designed to take. The tops of the towers were at a tilt after the plane impacts. Steel frames of buildings are designed to take a load in one direction: down. if you get the frame out of alignment, the force is in a slightly different direction and teh strength is severely degraded. Also, think of the building as a giant lever. The planes hit at the top. The "fulcrum" of the lever is the point at which the building reaches ground level. The planes clearly caused an impulse whcih whipped the tops of the towers in one direction with great force. The other, much shorter, end of the lever is the bottom of the building. Think fo the magnified force... the planes hit at *0-90 stories above ground. teh short end of the lever is only 7 stories. That is an incredible magnification of force, and the connectiosn woul dbe snapping and releasing tons and tons of energy. It's completely natural that many of the beams at the bottom, securely bolted to concrete, would simply snap. This release of energy would be indistinguishable from an explosion to a layperson.

There are so many points of ignorance and flat out lies in this film that it would take me days to point them all out. But these are two big ones.
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#11 Postby gtalum » Thu Oct 19, 2006 4:13 pm

Anyway, this is my favorite opinion regarding inane 9/11 conspiracy theories.

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Edited by GD to include warning of explicit and sexual language in above site.
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