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#1 Postby angelwing » Fri May 25, 2007 4:36 pm

Ok, some of you know that I am trying to get pre-approved for 100% financing to buy a home. When I got my credit report last November, the mid point was passable. Just got another report in March as I am going to a different realtor and they use their own mortgage people, well it dropped about almost 30 points!!!! Now I didn't apply for credit anywhere, but I am in the process of straightening out a few entries (just paid off one credit card bill for $5086 on my report :eek: :eek: :eek: )and there were 2 little bills I took care of earlier.
What I was wondering is if anyone knows how much this would raise the FICO...back up to the 30 I lost (I found out that the big bill had just gotten re-verified after the first credit report was pulled, therefore that dropped the score)or raise it up even more?

We had just found out that our apartment complex is raising everyone's rent by $150.00/month when their current lease expires and also make us pay for our water & sewer, gas, electric, snow & trash removal, which would make it almost $1400/month for a ONE bedroom.(I'd rather put this all into a house!) The place is not worth it. We were wondering why all of a sudden we are seeing A LOT of people with empty boxes and moving trucks and we're starting to get worried. Our lease is up in February, but we would have to let them now in December what our intentions are or the current lease just renews so I'm a little ansy. Prior to all these changes we were just paying rent & electric which even thought the electric bill ranged from 100-125/month was not really that bad (excluding the summer)

If anyone knows of any good research places I can find out or just has information I would appreciate it. If I had more time I would google, but now that I working 2 full time jobs and now have to recoup all this money I just put out my on-line time is severly limited.

Thank you!
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#2 Postby DanKellFla » Fri May 25, 2007 5:22 pm

It may take some time, but your score should improve. How much? Good question. A good mortgage person should be able to explain this to a lender. Don't cancel your credit card that had the $5K charge on it. To more available credit you have the better your score. Just don't use it until you buy your house.
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#3 Postby Jack8631 » Fri May 25, 2007 7:14 pm

Doesn't sound like you did anything to cause your score to go down. Are you pulling your own reports, or are the financial institutions doing it for you? Pulling the report itself can sometimes hurt..

It's possible there are discrepancies between the reporting companies. If you haven't already done so in 2007, go to http://www.annualcreditreport.com and check out all three yourself. It's free annually by law to help protect you from identity theft.
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#4 Postby angelwing » Fri May 25, 2007 7:36 pm

I do have all 3, when I get home tonight I'm going over them again, I can't see how this can drop this much.
The other mortgage broker had pulled them in March and I got my free ones this month to see what the heck happened, the mortgage guy was kind enough to mail me what he pulled so I'm going to be doing more comparisons.
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#5 Postby Jack8631 » Fri May 25, 2007 7:51 pm

There can be quite a lag in what the reporting agencies pick up. I know that doesn't help matters when you are trying to get approved for a loan. They are pretty good about resolving discrepancies, though.

Good luck, keep us updated...and as you said don't open any new accounts.
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#6 Postby Canelaw99 » Fri May 25, 2007 8:04 pm

I recommend checking out creditboards.com - it's been incredibly helpful for me over the years as I was repairing my credit. There are a lot of knowledgable people there that can give you insight into the scores and how they come about. Good luck :)
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#7 Postby angelwing » Fri May 25, 2007 8:06 pm

TY Cane!

I better get back to work, thanks for all the advice everyone! :D
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#8 Postby Persepone » Fri Jun 01, 2007 10:43 am

I'd go to a small local bank that does business in the immediate area where you want to buy your house.

Talk to their mortgage rep. Ask them if they hold or sell their mortgages. Usually these types of banks hold their mortgages.
You want one that does.

First, these banks lend more on who you are and how long you've lived in a community, etc. than strictly on "credit scores."

In the end, even though you might get a slightly better deal on the interest rate from a Leviathan & Behemouth Bank Conglomerate, you'll get a better deal in the long run from that small local bank.

First, you are more likely to get a fixed interest rate, etc. than variable. Second, they are not going to be predatory lenders. What this means is that they will help you find a house that meets your needs and that you can really afford to buy. It may not be the house of your dreams--but it will be a liveable starter home.

Much more important, if you hit bad times down the road (and all of us do sooner or later), that small local bank will work with you and get you over the hump! The big bank or mortgage company will just foreclose because all they care about is your money... Small local banks also want their money--but they want your money more than they want your house, so they will work out a program to get their money.

In the end, you are better off dealing with one of those banks than you are dealing with the big monster banks and the mortgage companies--you will end up in a house you can live in happily until you can afford (really afford) to move to a better, nicer house, etc.

By the way, take all those credit reports in with you when you go to talk to them. Not only can they explain what/why the scores are different, etc. but they will tell you how they are used by banks, etc. and what to avoid so that you don't have the problem in the future.

They generally do not have houses for sale becaue they foreclose (because they avoid this and almost never do it) but they do have houses from time to time for sale from their "trust department." While foreclosed houses are often not good because long before the owners defaulted on a mortgage they stopped doing preventative maintenance, etc., trust dept. houses (someone died and had no one to leave the house to so it needs to be sold and converted to cash) are often in pretty good shape structurally and in other ways that matter, but need complete "re-decorating" not necessarily because they were lived in by someone who was dirty or did not repaint, but because the paint colors, etc. are not what you would choose. But hey, if you can save $20K on the price of a house because the bedroom is turquoise, buy it and repaint the damned bedroom! $20K buys a lot of paint... You'd be amazed at how much more important "curb appeal" issues are when selling a house than actual structural issue. So many of my friends have bought terrible houses from a structural standpoint because they "loved the _______" (something inconsequential they could fix for several hundred dollars). But the bank also knows just about everyone who has real estate for sale and they will probably have suggestions about 10-15 houses for you to look at that you can afford, that are big enough for your family, convenient to good schools or whatever else is relevant--and you'd never even know about those houses if it weren't for the bank.

Another good thing about those small, local banks, is that if you start there, you are looking at houses you can afford--not houses the realtor wants you to buy because of the commission the realtor stands to make. Even if you do, in the end, buy from a realtor, the day you start with the realtor, you have an upper limit on what you are willing to spend for a house and do NOT have to disclose any of your financials to the realtor. This is very important if you want to shop for "less house" than you can afford. We probably could have found someone to write us a mortgage for about double our mortgage--but we did not want to do that! We felt that we needed to keep our mortgage payment to something we were comfortable with on one income--and it is good that we did this because a few years later, my husband's company laid off a zillion workers and he was included. Many of his co-workers did lose their houses or were forced to sell in a down market, etc. We never told our real estate person what we could qualify for--we told her what we were willing to pay and assured her truthfully that we were prequalified for that amount.

We will make a bunch of money on our house when we sell it because it was the cheapest house in the neighborhood and because most of its lower price was due to cosmetic issues and the fact that the buyers needed a quick sale and did not have it together enough to fix it up to sell. Our good fortune is largely due to our bank.
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#9 Postby angelwing » Fri Jun 01, 2007 9:11 pm

Thank you, will explore that option also!!!
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