A friend sent me this, kinda interesting:
For too many years, pastors and teachers have said, "Of course we don't know when Christ was actually born- but the time of year is not really important." Jehovah's Witnesses and others have taught that Christmas was "invented" in the fourth or fifth centuries. The supposed goal was giving a "Christian" facade or influence to the wild pagan or Satanic holiday observances during the winter solstice (the shortest days of the year).
What's the real story? Is there any real evidence that Jesus Christ 
was born at Christmas? A careful examination of a number of seemingly 
unrelated Bible passages gives clear indication that the Lord Jesus was 
indeed born at Christmas time. Such study will give new emphasis to what 
Christ came to do. It will also provide a much deeper appreciation of all 
that is hidden in the Word of God which can be discovered by those who 
prayerfully search the scriptures. 
Every word in the Bible is there because God put it there. He has a 
purpose for every one of His words. Therefore, seemingly casual listing of 
periods of time, genealogical references, etc. have significance which can be 
discovered through prayerful study. 
In Luke Chapter 1, the Bible records seemingly unimportant details 
about what a priest named Zacharias was doing when an angel announced to him 
that he and his wife were to have a child. The child was to be John the 
Baptist who would prepare the way for the Messiah, Jesus Christ. The Bible 
further records that the Lord Jesus was conceived in the sixth month after 
John the Baptist was conceived. Therefore, if the time of the conception of 
John the Baptist could be determined, the birth date of the Lord Jesus could 
be calculated. 
The scriptures say (relevant passages are underlined): "There was in 
the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of 
the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name 
was Elisabeth. 
And it came to pass, that while he executed the priest's office 
before God in the order of his course... " Luke 1:5,8 
At this point Zacharias demonstrated his amazing faithfulness to his 
duties as a priest. Even though he had been given the wonderful news by the 
angel that he and Elisabeth would have a son, Zacharias stayed in the temple 
until the days of his course were completed. 
"And it came to pass, that, as soon as the days of his ministration 
were accomplished, he departed to his own house. And after those days his 
wife Elisabeth conceived, and hid herself five months..." Luke 1:23-24 
The passage then describes how an angel came to Mary to announce that 
she was to be the virgin mother of the Messiah, the Lord Jesus. The 
scripture says: 
"And in the sixth month, the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a 
city of Galilee, named Nazareth. To a virgin espoused to a man whose name 
was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary..." Luke 
1:26-27 
And Mary arose in those days, and went into the hill country with 
haste, into a city of Judah; and entered into the house of Zacharias, and 
saluted Elisabeth." Luke 1:39-40 
Contained within these quoted passages are scriptures which point to 
the exact time when Jesus was born. (Remember that God puts every word and 
every detail into the Bible exactly as He wants it and for a purpose.) The 
underlined words are the key. 
In Luke 1:5 and Luke 1:8, we are told that Zacharias was a priest of 
the course of Abia and that he fulfilled his priestly duties in the order of 
his course. To understand the importance of the course of Abia and its 
bearing on the date of John the Baptist's conception, it is necessary to turn 
to 1Chronicles 24:1-10. This passage describes how a thousand years before 
Christ, King David established the courses for priestly service in the coming 
temple. Twenty-four courses were established and numbered by drawing lots - 
twelve courses for sanctuary service and twelve for the government of the 
house of God. 
Members of each course would serve during a month starting with the 
Hebrew month of Nisan. (Because of the way the Hebrew calendar fluctuates, 
the month Nisan can start anytime between early March and early April.) The 
sons of Abijah (the Old Testament spelling for Abia) were in the eighth 
course. Priests of Abia like Zacharias would, therefore, have each 
ministered for some days during the eighth month which in some years because 
of the fluctuation in the Hebrew calendar started as early as the fifth day 
of our month of October. Zacharias would have returned home when his days of 
service were accomplished and John the Baptist could have been conceived 
sometime between October 15 and the end of the month. 
After conception the scripture says that Elisabeth hid herself for 
five months. Then in the sixth month of her pregnancy (which, based on the 
above calculation, would have started about March 15 and continued until 
April 15) the angel announced to the Virgin Mary that the Lord Jesus would 
be conceived in her womb by the Holy Ghost. If this took place on or about 
April 1 a "normal" gestation period of 270 days would have then had the Lord 
Jesus due on or about December 25. How about that! 
There are other scriptural and natural indicators that confirm that 
the Lord was born at Christmas time. IN the account of His birth in Luke 
2:8, we read: 
"And there were in the same country shepherds abiding in the field, 
keeping watch over their flock by night." 
My son-in-law, who has a degree in agriculture, after hearing the 
above presentation, told me, "Certainly, the Lord Jesus was born at 
Christmas. The only time shepherds spend the night in the fields with their 
sheep is during the time when the lambs are born. The ewes become 
'attractive' to the rams in the month after June 21, the longest day of the 
year. The normal gestation period is five months so the ewes start lambing 
about mid-December." He added: Isn't it natural that the Lamb of God who 
takes away the sin of the world would be born when all the other lambs are 
born? 
This "coincidence" was too amazing for me to accept until I checked 
it out. A former teacher from the school where I am the administrator is 
married to a Montana sheep rancher. She confirmed what I had been told. She 
said, "Oh, yes! None of the men who have flocks are in church for weeks at 
Christmas. They have to be in the fields day and night to clean up and care 
for the lambs as soon as they are born or many would perish in the cold." 
Isn't that neat? God's Lamb, who was to die for the sins of the world, was 
born when all the other little lambs are born. Because He came and died the 
centuries old practice of sacrificing lambs for sin could end. 
There is another neat confirmation that God had His Son born at 
Christmas. The days at the end of December are the shortest (and therefore 
the darkest days) of the year. Jesus Christ said, "I am the light of the 
world." So at the time of the year when the darkness is greatest, God the 
Father sent God the Son to be the Light of the world.
			
									
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Ptarmigan wrote:Coredesat wrote:Well, it isn't important to everyone (it isn't important to me). The date was only chosen to make it easier for pagans to adapt from pagan festivals (December 25 was considered the birthday of the sun in the final years of the Roman state religion) to Christian ones. It was a simple matter of replacing the central religious figure.
I can care less if Christmas is December 25th. It does it make it more exciting for sure. Also, they were going to set it on March 25th. Well, if that was the case, it would be interesting.
March 25th would be... different. I don't know, I'm just so used to Christmas being at the beginning of winter and at the end of the year.
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