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Is a Bush/B.Clinton combo possible?

#1 Postby Guest » Mon Jul 21, 2003 4:40 pm

I say this because in some form or another both these two presidents have thier good points and Bad points...................

Lets start with Clinton.........Here is a person who imo really stunk at foreigen policy (Iraq-Bin Laden) and as well we cant forget his (private matters).........
However Mr B. Clinton handled the economy very very well............For one the deficit was more or less wiped out and a ton of jobs were created! I really didnt care ffor his or should i say his wifes view on smoking and such but anyways He did what no others had the guts to do and that was cut pork belly spending............Nobody here can deny the fact that we lived with alot less money worries (Taxes) when he was in office......

Now Mr Bush.............Here we have a guy that imo has done a pretty good job with foreigen policy....(Dont take crap attitude which i like btw) and is a great commander in chief! It would help though if we could show the world just how good we are and catch both Bin Laden and Saddam!

Now as far as domestic issues he has done good with homeland security but thats all he gets from me.................
Now here we have a big issue which like his father could cost him the re:election if our sleeping media outlets wake up and notice what he has done to our economy along with congress..............He has more or less erased everything clinton did for our economy and imo has set us way way back............Lets start with the fact we now have a bigger deficit then before Bill Clinton arrived on the scene............More and more people are jobless.................We are beeing Taxed like crazy (Federal and in some cases like mine State)................

Either way I have and do back all of his military agenda and i am behind him 100% along with our troops.....................Other then that imo he has to go! (same goes with some of the idots in congress as well who has helped creat this mess of our economy)

Is there anyone out there that could do what Bush has fighting wise(Foreigen Policy, Homeland security) and Clinton did economy wise?????????

Any other opinions on this share them...............:)

Maybe i have forgotten something or i am not reading the facts to clearly......................Either way lets hear your view on this.........
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#2 Postby therock1811 » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:05 pm

Good call wxbud! IMO Clinton was excellent on the econ., and Bush has done well as a commander-in-chief... I'm a registered Dem., but would like to see someone w/ both these qualities, Democrat or not...
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#3 Postby David » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:28 pm

No offense, but I don't want to see Clinton in office ever again.

The only reason why the enonomy was better for Clinton is because he wasn't in office when Sept. 11th happened! Me, personally, would rather have BUSH in office on that day then GORE or CLINTON.

Anyways, Clinton was a liar to America. :roll:
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Re: Is a Bush/B.Clinton combo possible?

#4 Postby southerngale » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:40 pm

king of weather wrote:I say this because in some form or another both these two presidents have thier good points and Bad points...................

Lets start with Clinton.........Here is a person who imo really stunk at foreigen policy (Iraq-Bin Laden) and as well we cant forget his (private matters).........
However Mr B. Clinton handled the economy very very well............For one the deficit was more or less wiped out and a ton of jobs were created! I really didnt care ffor his or should i say his wifes view on smoking and such but anyways He did what no others had the guts to do and that was cut pork belly spending............Nobody here can deny the fact that we lived with alot less money worries (Taxes) when he was in office......

Now Mr Bush.............Here we have a guy that imo has done a pretty good job with foreigen policy....(Dont take crap attitude which i like btw) and is a great commander in chief! It would help though if we could show the world just how good we are and catch both Bin Laden and Saddam!

Now as far as domestic issues he has done good with homeland security but thats all he gets from me.................
Now here we have a big issue which like his father could cost him the re:election if our sleeping media outlets wake up and notice what he has done to our economy along with congress..............He has more or less erased everything clinton did for our economy and imo has set us way way back............Lets start with the fact we now have a bigger deficit then before Bill Clinton arrived on the scene............More and more people are jobless.................We are beeing Taxed like crazy (Federal and in some cases like mine State)................

Either way I have and do back all of his military agenda and i am behind him 100% along with our troops.....................Other then that imo he has to go! (same goes with some of the idots in congress as well who has helped creat this mess of our economy)

Is there anyone out there that could do what Bush has fighting wise(Foreigen Policy, Homeland security) and Clinton did economy wise?????????

Any other opinions on this share them...............:)

Maybe i have forgotten something or i am not reading the facts to clearly......................Either way lets hear your view on this.........



Ok, what did Bush specifically do wrong? And what did Clinton specifically do right?

For whatever reason, it's very common for the president to get credit/blame for the economy he sits over but what did either man really do? The way I understand it, the new Republican congress that swept through in '94 started the massive turnaround with the economy. Before then, Clinton was coasting along with the recovery that began while Bush Sr. was still in office.

Likewise, economists agree that the Clinton economy was already on the downturn before Bush was even elected. In any case, we now know that a lot of the stockmarket rise during the 90's was based on illegal book-keeping by companies like Enron, Worldcom and others still being investigated. The discovery of these deceptive accounting practices would obviously have a negative effect on the economy, as it happens, while Bush is in office. He is now left to clean up the mess and bring these people to justice.
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#5 Postby Rainband » Mon Jul 21, 2003 5:55 pm

Something doesn't add up IMHO.. The guy killed himself in England?? Yeah and I am the pope :o BTW where are the WMD???? Don't get me wrong saddam is a bad dude but I think a few white lies where told here and there IMHO..a lie is a lie!! Plain and clear cut simple! :wink:
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#6 Postby David » Mon Jul 21, 2003 6:05 pm

Rainband wrote:Something doesn't add up IMHO.. The guy killed himself in England?? Yeah and I am the pope :o BTW where are the WMD???? Don't get me wrong saddam is a bad dude but I think a few white lies where told here and there IMHO..a lie is a lie!! Plain and clear cut simple! :wink:


WMD were supposivly there. And Resolution 1441 stated that we could adjust them if they didn't show us them. We had the evidence at the time(Colin Powell showed them at UN), and we went in there to kick Saddam out of power. We needed to do it, it was a threat not just to the US, but to the whole world.
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#7 Postby Lindaloo » Mon Jul 21, 2003 7:08 pm

You are absolutely right Kelly! Excellent post!!!

It takes a while for the economy to show up. It was turning around with Bush Sr. in office, while Clinton enjoyed it trying to take credit, even while he turned the other cheek to what was happening overseas.

But anyway, you took the words right out of mouth. What you said was RIGHT ON!!
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#8 Postby nystate » Mon Jul 21, 2003 9:17 pm

Rainband wrote:Something doesn't add up IMHO.. The guy killed himself in England?? Yeah and I am the pope :o BTW where are the WMD???? Don't get me wrong saddam is a bad dude but I think a few white lies where told here and there IMHO..a lie is a lie!! Plain and clear cut simple! :wink:


There has been no proof of lies...UN resolution 1441 said that Iraq had WMD, Clinton even knew that Iraq had WMD. The only reason we didn't have the UN go in with us is because they wanted to keep inspecting while Saddam continued his WMD programs right under their noses...
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#9 Postby Guest » Mon Jul 21, 2003 10:15 pm

Good point SG (Kely)...........Especially about enron and those crooks..................It admit that did escape my mind when i started this thread..............Thanks for doing that.................I do agree that the enron crap has had a bigger imapct on the economy then most is probably lead to believe.......................Then i guess you add what David added about 911 and that really does put a big hurting on the economy......................Now does anyone wanna take on the HUGE deficit that keeps treading in uncharterd waters???????...............And i will comment about the WMD issue only to say that no matter what we did what had to be done............Got rid of a mad man..............Yea the truth was probably stretched a little but that is something we may never know..................Either way we got rid of a mad man which is fine by me....................So lets focus on the fact we got rid of a Mad Man instead of the trivial WMD issue....................Well i hope Bush does get a second chance just so he can prove himself with the economy and maybe even the WMD issue along with IRAQ!
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Re: Is a Bush/B.Clinton combo possible?

#10 Postby j » Tue Jul 22, 2003 7:24 am

[quote="southerngaleThe way I understand it, the new Republican congress that swept through in '94 started the massive turnaround with the economy. Before then, Clinton was coasting along with the recovery that began while Bush Sr. was still in office.[/quote]

Thank you Kelly....you saved me the time of having to remind people that its Congress that pushes through reform. You did miss one very important point however, and that is the power of the veto, which Clinton exercised almost as much as his.....well nevermind...this is a family site.

Clinton inherited a recovering economy.....Bush inherited a declining economy and a tarnished office. He's had his hands full.

Oh...back to the main Topic......NO NO NO Bush/Clinton. Now I have to go the bathroom and throw up!
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#11 Postby wx247 » Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:33 pm

Just a quick comment or two...

The economy really has no connection to the president. Good or bad I have a hard time giving them the credit/blame. 9-11 did further destabilize our economy.

And on the lying issue... I want to see a President who has not lied to the American people. I don't think there is one. Intentional or not I don't think there has been one. Even "honest Abe" probably told a fib or two. I don't mean that that should be accepted, but it comes with the territory.
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#12 Postby j » Tue Jul 22, 2003 3:36 pm

Lying to your spouse is one thing. Perjury in a Court of Law is another. He should be in jail!
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