Really getting annoyed with the homeland security.

[GalvestonDuck]

Cameras don't prosecute people; people prosecute people.

I say keep the cameras (as do most who have nothing to hide). Just make sure they're used for the intended purpose.

[Guest]

Cameras don't prosecute people; people prosecute people.

I say keep the cameras (as do most who have nothing to hide). Just make sure they're used for the intended purpose.

You really think that will happen? people and especially govts have a good way of abusing such things IMHO.

And like wx53 said its just NOT the american way. Sorry. Very good points btw 53!

[chadtm80]

Your right.. Busting criminals isnt the American way.. Sad isnt it?

[Stormsfury]

A camera shows you throwing down a bag. You get a ticket for littering. The reason you threw down the bag was to run out into the street to pull a child away from an approaching car-that's the whole story; the camera does not catch that. That is what is wrong with cameras.

Bingo ... it's a still frame, and captures a moment of time that open to quantum physics. Remember the phrase "a picture is worth 1000 words." Still frames are worth 1000 possibilities...

SF

[southerngale]

KOW...how are they invading your privacy if you're on camera in a public area? Couldn't anyone see you there? Just what do you DO in public areas? lol

Seriously, I don't see it as invading my privacy at all and I am more than willing for them to even set up a camera in my yard if it would somehow help to catch a terrorist! I have nothing to hide and why shouldn't I give a "little" to maybe help a lot?

[Guest]

Your right.. Busting criminals isnt the American way.. Sad isnt it?

Like i said thats what we pay cops for! And whatever happend to innocent untill proven guilty?

Very un-American.

Sorry but these cams in the wrong hands can and WILL lead to bigger problems for law biding citizens of this country down the road.


Sorry as well but imo both you and now southerngale are looking at this from a political view because Homeland security is a Bush pet project IMO. If i am wrong then i am sorry but i know you guys will back and defend anything no matter what it is that relates to the Bush administration. Please try looking past your political views and see this for what it is and the trouble it could lead to down the road ESPECIALLY if we get some whack job in the Whitehouse! I am as much a full Bush supporter as either of you but this is just plain wrong IMO and Bush will not be in office forever either. And like i said i am very sorry if i am wrong about why you and gale or anyone else for that matter is supportive of this for the reason i said.

Oh and please dont put words in my mouth either. I dont have a problem with busting criminals but this way of trying to bust them is very unamerican and you very well know it! And i HIGHLY doubt and would be willing to place a wager on here right now that these cams will NOT catch one single Terrorist! NOT ONE Kelly!

And as i have said before Homeland Security i thought was SUPPOSED to be for stopping terrorist inside the boarders of this country and why is it now (As a few suspected would happen) they are trying to use this for other issues such as supposed drug enforcement? It really worries me when i see such things happening with this and for that matter even the patriot act when they PROMISED it wouldnt be used for anything else to get the dam thing thru congress! WTH is wrong with trying to get a bill thru congress or atleast presenting it to the american people and letting US decide or atleast going thru normal procedure with this cam issue? You find nothing wrong with that?

Before you know it they will wanna attach things to us to be able to track our every movement because someone (could be) a terrorist and or into Drugs. You MARK MY WORDS on that! We are headed down that path as scripture says will happen if we continue to let things like this cam issue continue to happen.

With that i am done debating this issue as i think i have presented a good enough case for why these cams arent needed and the trouble they can lead to in the future.

Great debating you all btw. And how about that a dam good debate and no flames!!!! This is why this site ROCKS!!!!!

Oh and sorry again if i offended anyone.

[WEATHER53]

Cameras don't prosecute people; people prosecute people.

I say keep the cameras (as do most who have nothing to hide). Just make sure they're used for the intended purpose.

Incorrect.
The camera is the prosecutor, policeman, and even judge as you are guilty plain pure and simple because the camera says so. I do not believe that cameras should have that animate quality to establish and convey guilt.

[GalvestonDuck]

Okay then -- let's leave the main cameras that are capable of recording an entire sequence of events away from the view of the public and just let all those goofs with camera phones snap and choose what to present as evidence?

Seems to me that there'd be more proof of innocence with the big cameras that record it all. (Yes, I know they wouldn't be guaranteed to get everything, but it would sure beat one shot taken out of context.)

And, for the record, no, I'm not saying *everyone* with camera phones is a goof.

[southerngale]

Being a Bush supporter has nothing to do with this KOW! And no, I wouldn't back and defend anything no matter what it is that relates to the Bush Administration. Do I agree with him most of the time? Yep! Do I agree with him ALL of the time? Nope!

My post didn't mention Bush or Kerry or anything like that. I simply said that I have nothing to hide and that I don't see it as an invasion of my privacy and that I would give up a little of my privacy anyway if it helped catch a terrorist.

Geez, talk about putting words in someone's mouth!