Have we lost the bond?

[David]

After 9/11, America came together, and mourned the loss of many loved ones. Now, in a war, where we are losing loved ones every day, we have half the US arguing and half odfus supporting. Have we lost the bond? This is where, if the terrorist decide to do anything, they will catch us off guard. I think we need to get together again as the UNITED States of America. People say they don't support the war, but they support our troops. How can you do that? Thats like, an oxymoron. I wish the people who are aginst the war would give up the fight. We are there to stay for awhile. We're going to continue to lose soldiers. There is nothing else we can do. We all need to support our troops, no matter how much you like Bush. We are in a war that is taking the lives of American's who did nothing. It's not helping that American's back home are arguing who should be over there, it's not helping the moral over there, which is already low.

Just think about that for a couple minutes.. America needs to unite again.

[CaluWxBill]

After 9/11, America came together, and mourned the loss of many loved ones. Now, in a war, where we are losing loved ones every day, we have half the US arguing and half odfus supporting. Have we lost the bond? This is where, if the terrorist decide to do anything, they will catch us off guard. I think we need to get together again as the UNITED States of America. People say they don't support the war, but they support our troops. How can you do that? Thats like, an oxymoron. I wish the people who are aginst the war would give up the fight. We are there to stay for awhile. We're going to continue to lose soldiers. There is nothing else we can do. We all need to support our troops, no matter how much you like Bush. We are in a war that is taking the lives of American's who did nothing. It's not helping that American's back home are arguing who should be over there, it's not helping the moral over there, which is already low.

Just think about that for a couple minutes.. America needs to unite again.

Nice post David, I understand your reasoning. However, supporting the Presidents foreign policy and supporting the troops are two different things for sure. The President calls the shots, the troops follow his orders. Some people don't like his orders, they don't like how he alienated the US foreign policy position from most of the world. To say I don't wish our troops a victorious yet safe war in Iraq because I didn't agree with Bush going to war in the first place is utter BS. I am still in favor of the War on Terrorism, but it is becoming clear that Iraq was should not have been a top priority in the WOT, but we did go in and that is that. Hopefully the new Iraqi government will be able to bring back stability to Iraq and we can remove the vast majority of our troops from Iraq.

[David]

Yeah, but I think he had to alter it. It's either that, or right now at this time he would be getting crap from Dems that he didn't DO anything..

If Iraq wasn't our main target, who should of been then?

[CaluWxBill]

Yeah, but I think he had to alter it. It's either that, or right now at this time he would be getting crap from Dems that he didn't DO anything..

If Iraq wasn't our main target, who should of been then?

Well I know this sounds lame, but full international support and alliance in the war on terrorism. Develop the trust of the international community greatly increase the reach of your intelligence, and this would help you more in finding and rooting out Al Qaida. I am not going to fight to much on the War in Iraq issue, as despite my frustration with the Bush administration and the diplomatic failures that have resulted because of this war, I am glad that Saddam Hussein has been ousted, now we have to really focus our support in Iraq on the new goverment, and restore some normalcy, and prepare the public for democracy.

[rainstorm]

the country was never united david. i have a prediction though. if kerry is elected the media will get behind whatever he does and the good news will be everywhere. kerry will also have the advantage of a boom economy started by bush

[FWBHurricane]

Goodnews and Kerry? HA! I wouldnt be surpsied if the media started to make Kerry look like a hero...the media is just doing its job making it seem we are losing the war....I dont trust the media anymore. We were untied, until Bush declared war on Iraq. We had just finsihed with Afghanistan...and war with Iraq was going to happen. The War on Terror means we must destroy those who harbor and support terrorism, Saddam fell under both categories. God bless our troops and Bush who actually went and defeated a man we have been wanting for over 12yrs.

[wx247]

David... there are always people who protest war. I guess it is their belief or conviction. But if you protest the war itself you can still support the troops. NO ONE wants to see these soldiers die...whether you are for or against the war.

And the divide that you speak of is because of partisan bickering. I am one of these people who tries to see both sides of the issues, but some people are so locked in their views that they can't see the other side of the coin so to speak. And as long as the world turns, we won't be agreeing all the time.

But I promise you this... in times of tragedy... regardless of political affiliation, race, gender, etc., we come together. Whether it be 9/11, floods, earthquakes, etc... we work as a team. That is the bond that makes America strong. And that is the bond that the terrorists can never break. It is ironic that the worst of times brings out the best in people. But I believe in my heart that while we may disagree, we are still UNITED together when it really counts.

[David]

I'm not bias.. I try to see things from both points of view, as well.

But, my point is, we can picket and rally for no war, but it's not gonna happen. Why waste your time to keep trying? That's what I don't see.. but hey, whatever floats your boat.

[abajan]

...If Iraq wasn't our main target, who should of been then?

Perhaps Saudi Arabia. Most of the hijackers came from there.

[wx247]

I'm not bias.. I try to see things from both points of view, as well.

But, my point is, we can picket and rally for no war, but it's not gonna happen. Why waste your time to keep trying? That's what I don't see.. but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Not saying you were David. Not at all.

The protesting is a matter of principle.

While it is controversial, let's take abortion to look at a parallel example. Those who feel abortion is wrong still rally and picket and don't support it even though it has been legalized. If you don't like something and don't agree with it, you can voice your opinion about it. That is what makes America so great.

[Skywatch_NC]

I'm not bias.. I try to see things from both points of view, as well.

But, my point is, we can picket and rally for no war, but it's not gonna happen. Why waste your time to keep trying? That's what I don't see.. but hey, whatever floats your boat.

Not saying you were David. Not at all.

The protesting is a matter of principle.

While it is controversial, let's take abortion to look at a parallel example. Those who feel abortion is wrong still rally and picket and don't support it even though it has been legalized. If you don't like something and don't agree with it, you can voice your opinion about it. That is what makes America so great.

Garrett, David's father is serving in Afghanistan...just wondered if you knew that, Bro.

Eric

[wx247]

I understand. And I support his father and all our troops. I also support the war! Those people over their have packed up and left this country to help make ours a better one in the long run.

I am just trying to explain to him the other side of the coin so to speak.

[Kiko]

...If Iraq wasn't our main target, who should of been then?

Perhaps Saudi Arabia. Most of the hijackers came from there.

Came from Wahhabism, Abajan. Anyone who went to school in Saudi learns it too. The religion of hate. Read this and you will be astounded that the Saudi's are our main allies in the me.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... abism.html

I'm telling you peeps, buy stock in the publishing industry because there's a whole lot of textbooks needed in the me. After these get burned.

Bin Laden learned this in Saudi Arabia. He didn't learn it in the moon. That message that Bin Laden received, it still is taught in Saudi Arabia. And if bin Laden dies, and this policy or curriculum stays, we will have other bin Ladens.

Now read this again and you'll know why we're in this war on terror:

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... abism.html

Can you show me an example of what the [religious teaching is in the schools?

Well, here, this is a book, hadif, for ninth grade. Hadif is a statement of Prophet Mohammed. This is a book that start for ninth graders. This is talking about the victory of Muslims over Jews. This is a hadif that I truly believe it's not true, as a Muslim:

"The day of judgment will not arrive until Muslims fight Jews, and Muslim will kill Jews until the Jew hides behind a tree or a stone. Then the tree and the stone will say, 'Oh Muslim, oh, servant of God, this is a Jew behind me. Come and kill him.' Except one type of a tree, which is a Jew tree. That will not say that." This is taught for 14-year-old boys in Saudi Arabia.

That is pure hate, and the one thing I'll agree with Shrub is that it is evil.

Excerpts from textbooks, if you dare.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline ... books.html