Warning: Harry Potter Spoilers! Read ONLY if youre DONE!

#1 Postby **OklahomaWeather** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 5:14 pm

Ok, so this will be the thread where we can actually discuss!

I have SO many questions, but the biggest looming on my mind....

Is Snape still actually good? In the Order of the Phoenix... Was this the ultimate trickery to stay in as a spy with the Death Eaters?

Here is why I'm thinking so:

Remember (p. 405) where Hagrid is talking about a fight he overheard between Dumbledore and Snape? Snape was saying that "he didn't want to do it anymore" but Dumbledore told him that "he had agreed and that was that"

Plus, I could tell through the whole book that Dumbledore was preparing Harry for his death, arming him with all information necessary... True he was getting old, but even on the final night, he was almost showing Harry how to find and get to the Horcruxes, picking up on the magical traces left behind to find hidden things, etc etc...

And WHY did Dumbledore ONLY want Snape to come to the rescue, once they had gotten back into Hogsmeade? (and this was before they had even seen the dark mark) Slughorn could have made a potion to cure him... Maybe Dumbledore knew it was time, and wanted Snape to come kill him?

But, the last thing that makes me question all my other reasoning about this is at the very end, when Snape arrives and kills Dumbledore. Why did Dumbledore plead to Severus? To save his life? Or was he pleading for Snape to get it overwith, and make sure he carries through with it?

Ok, discuss!

#2 Postby **sweetpea** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 6:25 pm

I think Snape is actually still good. I think Dumbledore believed there were things that had to happen including his death :cry:

to make things work in the long run. He pleaded with Snape because I believe it was something they had discussed. Me and 2 of the ladies I work with are going to be having a Harry Potter discussion party soon. I have so many more questions now. The last book is going to have to be 1000 pages long to pull it all together. Do you really think Harry won't go back to school next year. Will Hermione and Ron not be with him? Who will headmaster at Hogwarths? Who will help Harry? I don't see how he can do this alone. How can he figure out where the last 4 Horcruxes are? And the list goes on. I still have the book sitting on my desk because I plan on rereading it again very soon. Do you suppose JK could use some of Harry's magic and speed up the writing of the last book?

#3 Postby **streetsoldier** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:19 pm

The last book is already written and has been for months; Rowling is keeping us on the edges of our seats.

I've a feeling that Snape's duplicity will be discovered to his doom at Voldemort's hands; IMHO, Professor McGonagall should be named Headmistress, unless the Ministry of Magic interferes by bringing in an outsider...possibly one of the "Death-Eaters".

Don't count out Lupin or Moody yet. The Order of the Phoenix still has a hand to play.

The question is what Harrys next move will be. :larrow:

#4 Postby **pojo** » Mon Jul 18, 2005 7:21 pm

Sorry to say, I've never read the Harry Potter books... Any of them!

weathermom · #5 Postby **weathermom** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:37 am

pojo- what are you waiting for??

Also who is RAB? My daughter thinks it is Regulus Black, the brother of Sirius, though as far as I know Rowling never gave us his middle name.

#6 Postby **sweetpea** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 6:49 am

weathermom wrote:pojo- what are you waiting for??

Also who is RAB? My daughter thinks it is Regulus Black, the brother of Sirius, though as far as I know Rowling never gave us his middle name.

She could have a good idea going there. I didn't think of him. I have been trying to figure out who that could be.

weathermom · #7 Postby **weathermom** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:40 am

The other thought is that RAB is more than one person, because Dumbledore made the comment that one person couldn't have gotten the horcrux out of the cave alone.

I hadn't considered that Dumbledore may have planned for Snape to kill him. That would make me feel a little better about that scene. It really bothered me that Dumbledore was pleading with Snape, it was too out of character.

#8 Postby **OklahomaWeather** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 7:43 am

Hmmm, Regulus Black.. That's VERY interesting!

But also, an interesting point that you made- that 1 person alone cannot retrieve the Horcrux...

I'm meeting for lunch today with 3 other Harry Potter obsessed friends, I'll let everyone know if we come across a breakthrough or something! lol

BUD · #9 Postby **BUD** » Tue Jul 19, 2005 10:31 pm

The best thing is they will make movies out of all the books!!!!!

Warning: Harry Potter Spoilers! Read ONLY if youre DONE!

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