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#1021 Postby Derek Ortt » Thu Sep 24, 2009 1:30 pm

oh great, yet another proxy war coming. Israel vs Iran

when will we just take out the country that has been caught in Iran and Syria, giving them the nuke and missile technology. The same country whose reactor Israel wiped out of Syria a couple of years ago
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#1022 Postby Lurker » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:54 pm

MGC wrote:Israeli Prime Minister Netanyahu today at the UN drew a line in the sand and asked countries to either be with Israel or against Israel in the war against terrorism. He also made several hints that Israel will strike against Iran's nuclear facilities.

It is getting close to hitting the fan time........MGC


I think Iran already declared war through the currency markets.
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#1023 Postby Lurker » Thu Sep 24, 2009 2:55 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:oh great, yet another proxy war coming. Israel vs Iran

when will we just take out the country that has been caught in Iran and Syria, giving them the nuke and missile technology. The same country whose reactor Israel wiped out of Syria a couple of years ago


Which country?
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#1024 Postby somethingfunny » Thu Sep 24, 2009 3:00 pm

Lurker wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:oh great, yet another proxy war coming. Israel vs Iran

when will we just take out the country that has been caught in Iran and Syria, giving them the nuke and missile technology. The same country whose reactor Israel wiped out of Syria a couple of years ago


Which country?


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#1025 Postby cycloneye » Thu Sep 24, 2009 8:34 pm

3 month deadline to stop enriching uranium

After that period sanctions or other actions can be taken,unless Israel strikes first the nuke plants.

UNITED NATIONS - Pressure deepened against Iran on Thursday when the world's eight top economic powers gave Tehran until year's end to cease enriching uranium or face new sanctions, but resistance from China could undermine the effort.

Washington has been pushing for heavier sanctions if Iran does not agree to end enrichment, which many nations believe is part of Tehran's drive to build a nuclear weapon. Iran says its nuclear program is designed to generate electricity.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33011187/ns ... tn_africa/
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#1026 Postby somethingfunny » Fri Sep 25, 2009 12:00 am

What constitutes a new sanction? Where can I go to find out what the current sanctions are?
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#1027 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 25, 2009 6:49 am

BREAKING NEWS=Iran has a Second Nuclear Plant

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Never known before that they had another plant in an underground location to make nukes.This for sure will acelerate Israel to do its thing IMO.

PITTSBURGH - President Barack Obama on Friday will urge Iran to come clean about its nuclear activities amid reports that Tehran is building a secret underground plant to manufacture nuclear fuel, officials told NBC News.

The administration wants to ratchet up pressure on Iran on the eve of talks set for next week and make clear that Tehran has not been forthcoming about its nuclear activities, officials said.

Senior administration officials noted that the nuclear non-proliferation treaty requires countries to disclose such facilities at the beginning of construction. This facility, known as the "Qum facility," would also be in violation of U.N. resolutions requiring Iran to halt enrichment activities.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33016209/ns ... tn_africa/
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Re: Iran Standoff=Breaking News=Iran has second nukes plant

#1028 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:13 am

Iran Acknowledges it has another plant

CNN) -- Iran has acknowledged the existence of a second uranium enrichment plant in a letter sent to the International Atomic Energy Agency, a spokesman for the nuclear watchdog agency said Friday.

"I can confirm that on 21 September, Iran informed the IAEA in a letter that a new pilot fuel enrichment plant is under construction in the country," agency spokesman Marc Vidricaire said.

The letter said Iran's enrichment level would be up to 5 percent, he said. The agency has requested that Iran provide specific information and access to the nuclear facility as soon as possible.

White House sources said President Obama will make an announcement regarding the second Iranian facility at a news conference Friday morning before the opening of the G-20 economic summit in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.

Several diplomatic sources told CNN they were aware of the letter.

The second nuclear facility, on a military base near the holy city of Qom, is thought to be capable of housing 3,000 centrifuges, not enough to produce nuclear fuel to power a reactor, but sufficient to manufacture bomb-making material, a U.S. diplomatic source who read the letter told CNN.

http://edition.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast ... index.html
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Re: Iran Standoff=Breaking News=Iran has second nukes plant

#1029 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 25, 2009 7:58 am

Statement by Obama on this.

PITTSBURGH - President Barack Obama on Friday urged Iran to come clean about its nuclear activities, saying that the revelation of a covert nuclear fuel site underscores Tehran's willingness to follow international rules.

Obama, with British Prime Minister Gordon Brown and French President Nicolas Sarkozy by his side, made the announcement before the opening of the Group of 20 economic summit in Pittsburgh.

Obama, who demanded that Tehran open the site up to international inspections, said the site "deepens a growing concern" that Iran has failed to live up to its international obligations. He said that Iran "is breaking rules that all nations must follow, endangering the world non-nuclear proliferation regime ... and the security of the world."


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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff=Iran has second nuclear plant

#1030 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:42 pm

Ahmadinejad warns Obama

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He looks desesperated now.

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has warned President Barack Obama against pressing Tehran about new revelations that Iran has been constructing a secret uranium-enrichment plant. "If I were Obama's adviser, I would definitely advise him to refrain making this statement because it is definitely a mistake," Ahmadinejad told TIME in New York on Friday. "It would definitively be a mistake." His comment came as President Obama, speaking at the G-20 summit in Pittsburgh, made a dramatic announcement that Iran has been constructing a second uranium-enrichment facility whose existence had been kept secret in violation of the non-proliferation agreements to which Tehran is a signatory.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 69,00.html
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#1031 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:48 pm

cycloneye wrote:Ahmadinejad warns Obama

He looks desesperated now.

Iran's President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has warned President Barack Obama against pressing Tehran about new revelations that Iran has been constructing a secret uranium-enrichment plant. "If I were Obama's adviser, I would definitely advise him to refrain making this statement because it is definitely a mistake," Ahmadinejad told TIME in New York on Friday. "It would definitively be a mistake." His comment came as President Obama, speaking at the G-20 summit in Pittsburgh, made a dramatic announcement that Iran has been constructing a second uranium-enrichment facility whose existence had been kept secret in violation of the non-proliferation agreements to which Tehran is a signatory.

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/ ... 69,00.html


What's he gonna do about it?

I am so sick of Iran.
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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff=Iran has second nuclear plant

#1032 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 25, 2009 1:57 pm

What's he gonna do about it?


He has a card,Oil
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#1033 Postby Lurker » Fri Sep 25, 2009 2:02 pm

cycloneye wrote:
What's he gonna do about it?


He has a card,Oil


#2 OPEC exporter to be exact.
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#1034 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Sep 25, 2009 4:52 pm

cycloneye wrote:
What's he gonna do about it?


He has a card,Oil


and we have a card, B 52s lined up and leveling Tehran

However, I'd rather save the pocket aces and use them against Pyongyang so we don't have to go through the exact same thing with Venezuela
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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff=Iran has second nuclear plant

#1035 Postby Lurker » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:07 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:
cycloneye wrote:
What's he gonna do about it?


He has a card,Oil


and we have a card, B 52s lined up and leveling Tehran

However, I'd rather save the pocket aces and use them against Pyongyang so we don't have to go through the exact same thing with Venezuela


Iran already fired the first shot without dropping a bomb. They did it through the currency markets. The dollar is a fiat currency backed only by confidence (very dangerous game to play). Remove this confidence and it is game over. A lot of people think inflation or hyperinflation comes from price pressures due to excess demand, rising wages etc. It actually comes from a currency crisis which we are smack in the center of. Iran's central bank last week started dumping their 90 billion forex and switched their trade to Euros. China in conjunction told our banks they will not honor their derivative contracts and have put a floor in gold prices. The real war is being waged right now in the futures pits. It may be difficult for the United States to get involved in the near future the way things are going.
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#1036 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 25, 2009 5:54 pm

U,S. shared intel information with Russia and China.

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Obama recently shared sensitive intelligence with Russia and China about Iran's newly unveiled nuclear facility to get the two countries' leaders on board with new sanctions against Tehran, senior U.S. officials revealed Friday.

And the strategy to build a coalition with Russia and China "has already begun to bear fruit," one senior U.S. official said.

The officials declined to be identified because of the sensitive nature of the negotiations.

Like the United States, Russia and China are both veto-wielding members of the U.N. Security Council.

Both countries have long opposed additional sanctions against Iran for its nuclear program, although Russian leaders recently have said they might be willing to compromise.


http://edition.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09 ... index.html
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#1037 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 25, 2009 10:17 pm

Iran is closer than ever to have a nuclear bomb.Read the latest analysis about how far ahead they are in the building proccess of the bomb.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,555 ... 7963556:z0
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#1038 Postby Cryomaniac » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:21 am

Obama about Iran:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/electio ... sequences/

British defence minister doesn't rule out military action, but does say "no sane person" would look to attack Iran over its nuclear program "without real concern".

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8276180.stm
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Re: Iran Nuclear Standoff

#1039 Postby cycloneye » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:30 am

The big question is out there about what Israel may do.If they go and attack Iran,they would have to fly over Iraq airspace and we know that the U.S. has bases there.Would they seek clearance to fly over? Interesting dilemma I see with this.
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#1040 Postby Cryomaniac » Sat Sep 26, 2009 7:53 am

cycloneye wrote:The big question is out there about what Israel may do.If they go and attack Iran,they would have to fly over Iraq airspace and we know that the U.S. has bases there.Would they seek clearance to fly over? Interesting dilemma I see with this.


They'd also have to fly over Jordanian airspace, which would pose more of a problem.
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