New "LOST" thread

[Miss Mary]

Reminder (as if any of us need this!):

Season 2 Finale airs tonight!!!!

Also.....Rodriquez in trouble again........
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/TV/05/2 ... index.html

You have to wonder if the writers are just relieved Ana Lucia is gone. Her death has to connect to the actress' legal troubles, I don't care what those writers say.

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Also, Ask Ausiello's TV Guide column today:
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Ausiello/AskAusiello/


Question: Any scoop on tonight's Lost finale? You left us high and dry last week! — Christine

Ausiello: My sincerest apologies. But rest assured, when I'm not dispending Lost dish, I'm chasing it down. At ABC's upfront bash last week, I cornered Carlton Cuse and politely demanded that he cough up "The Challah" at once. "It launches what we are going to be doing in Season 3," he said of the top-secret cliff-hanger, "and I think it will give the audience a good idea where the show will be going next season. This season was really about the hatch, and when you see 'The Challah,' it'll really give you a sense of what the next chapter of the show is all about." For more scoop de Cuse, keep reading….

Question: What are the chances that Ana Lucia will appear in other castaways' flashbacks next season on Lost? — Monica Nettle

Ausiello: Slim to none, according to Carlton. "Never say never, but we feel like we told her story," he reveals. "Her arc had a beginning, middle and an end." Sort of like Michelle Rodriguez's rap sheet, minus the end part.

Question: Will we ever find out the fate of Cindy the Disappearing Flight Attendant on Lost? — Toni Miller

Ausiello: I asked Carlton that as well. "Yes," he says, "you will find out what happened to Cindy."

Question: I love Lost, though this minor thing has been bugging me for some time. In the episode "Homecoming," Claire returns with no recollection of anything on the island. In "Maternity Leave," she recalls her encounters with Ethan but nothing involving the time before that. Will more of her memory come back to her or will she forever forget the pre-Ethan stuff? — Harold

Ausiello: Although this wasn't made crystal clear on the show, Claire has regained all of her memories. "It came back in bits and pieces," Carlton explains. "But, obviously, the most stressful stuff — the stuff related to when she was in the medical hatch — came back last."

Question: Please give me some info on Lost. I love you soooooo much! — Rachel

Ausiello: OK, but this is a tad spoilery, so beware. Before the two hours are over, Michael and Walt will be reunited and we'll learn what exactly Henry Gale's role is with the Others. Also, when the survivors come face-to-face with the Others — and they will come face-to-face — questions regarding their appearance will become of paramount importance.

[wx247]

Thanks Mary. I can always count on you for info.

Plus, I have heard through the grapevine we see Libby again tonight (via flashbacks of course)! I can't wait.

[Miss Mary]

Happy for you Garrett! I read somewhere a blurb about the two actresses who got arrested for DUI's. Each handled herself differently in court. Your fave was very soft spoken, apologetic and ready for her punishment (community service). The other - sigh, Rodriquez - was the complete opposite. No wonder she was sentenced to more jail time. There's something to be said for being humble and ready to face the consequences. You sure picked a good fave there Garret....sorry she was killed off though. I'll miss Libby, same as I still miss Boone.

Mary

[wx247]

haha... well I understand what you are going through

I usually don't get attached to shows because I become very involved in their characters and the storylines. When change comes, then I usually become upset... ie: read about 3 pages back (haha).

I am amazed that LOST has been able to keep me thus far.

[furluvcats]

I Know it wx247! It has gotten me good too, and I try not to fall into these "prime time traps" ...lol

PLEASE think of me as I am on this flight tonight ( not Oceanic)..lol...and missing the show,....I will tune into ABC.com tomorrow tho, to see what I missed!

FYI: Brians reading for the plane : Bad Twin....(the last book ever written by one of the folks on flight 815, Oceanic)....he is hoping for clues...anyone ever read this book yet???

[furluvcats]

A Little About Dharma :

Spoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow.
Most of what is currently known about the DHARMA Initiative comes from an orientation film, [1] found inside an underground bunker on the island, that outlines the purpose and instructions for Station 3: The Swan. The film has a stated copyright date of 1980 and is designated as the third of six such films. Dr. Marvin Candle (played by François Chau) narrates the film, which is noticeably cut or damaged in places.


Gerald DeGroot as seen in the DHARMA Initiative Orientation film for Station 3 The Swan.The film begins by providing background history of the DHARMA Initiative. It states that the Initiative was founded in 1970 by University of Michigan doctoral candidates Karen and Gerald de Groot and financed by the Hanso Foundation, apparently composed of a group of "scientists and free thinkers" from around the world who were brought together at a "large-scale communal research compound" on the island to conduct research in various disciplines, including meteorology, psychology, parapsychology, zoology, and electromagnetism. American psychologist and Walden Two author B.F. Skinner is cited as an influence on the de Groots' work.

A section of film is discovered by Mr. Eko inside a second, but apparently inactive, station where the survivors from the tail section of the plane were living in season one. In "What Kate Did", this portion of filmstock, hidden in a hollowed-out Bible, is given to John Locke who splices it into the orientation film. The additional section completes an admonishment against station orientees attempting to use the station's computer system to communicate with the outside world.

In "?", Mr. Eko and Locke discover Station 5, "The Pearl" which has an orientation of its own on a video tape. On this tape, Dr. Marvin Candle identifies himself as Dr. Mark Wickman. According to the video, the Pearl station is intended to observe and document activity in another station on the island. It explains that a psychological experiment is taking place in another station, where team members have been conditioned to believe their work is of great importance.

[edit]
Research stations
Main article: DHARMA Initiative stations
The DHARMA Initiative has placed several research stations around the island, which take the form of hidden, underground facilities or bunkers. The first to be discovered by the survivors is "Station 3" or "The Swan" which they refer to informally as "the hatch" and have since occupied. Three additional stations have since been visited. Each of these facilities has a particular logo associated with it: an octagon with an interior based on the bagua design, with a differing symbol at the center.


Trivia
While DHARMA has been confirmed by the writers to be an acronym, [2] Dharma is also a Sanskrit term with several meanings in different religious contexts, including "natural law", "reality", "truth" and "duty".
A DHARMA Initiative symbol appears on the tail of a shark that attacks Michael and Sawyer in the episode "Adrift".
Marvin Candle's left arm does not move throughout the orientation film. In the show's official podcast, creator/executive producer Damon Lindelof and executive producer Carlton Cuse confirmed that Candle's hand is a prosthetic. However, In the episode "?" he appears in a second orientation film, identifying himself as "Mark Wickman" and with both hands intact.

From Wikipedia

[furluvcats]

BAD TWIN :

Fiction into fact into fiction
By David L. Ulin, DAVID L. ULIN is the book editor of The Times.
November 19, 2005


THIS SEASON, the TV drama "Lost" will make pop culture history when it becomes the first show ever to have a character write a book in the real world. Hyperion (a division of Disney, which owns ABC, which airs "Lost") plans to release "Bad Twin," a mystery novel credited to one Gary Troup, who, the publisher informs us, was a passenger on "Oceanic Flight 815, which was lost in flight from Sydney, Australia, to Los Angeles in September 2004."

Although that air disaster is the genesis point of "Lost," the event from which the entire series unfolds, Troup is hardly a central figure in the action — in fact, he's not a living presence at all. He died in the plane crash, leaving behind the manuscript of his private-eye story, which will be found in the wreckage during an episode this spring. The discovery of this manuscript will magically overlap with the novel's release date.

ADVERTISEMENT
Television, of course, has long been a source of publishing tie-ins. Back in college, I used to swear by "The Twilight Zone Companion," and there are all those "Star Trek" books. "Lost" exists in this tradition. Barely a year after debuting, it's already spawned several spinoff novels as well as "The Lost Chronicles: The Official Companion Book."

"Bad Twin," however, is a different sort of project, a novel that neither explains nor expands upon the show but seeks to be an authentic artifact. In the Hyperion catalog, it merits a two-page spread, complete with invented blurbs from nonexistent writers ("Sure to be a classic of the genre," says Bob Miller, which happens to be the name of the president of Hyperion), and bio information that lists the fictional Troup's credits and sales.

As to who actually is writing "Bad Twin," no one at the imprint will discuss it, although the buzz on various "Lost"-related websites is that it's the work of mystery novelist Ridley Pearson. That conjecture is supported by a catalog reference to "The Diary of Ellen Rimbauer," a novel Pearson wrote for Hyperion as the prequel to ABC's 2002 miniseries "Rose Red."

On the one hand, "Bad Twin" represents a further twist on horizontal marketing, in which a media company uses one holding to sell another. This is how we live now, in a world where everything is commodified and the bottom line has become, well, the bottom line.

Still, I can't help but be reminded of the scene in Ray Bradbury's "Fahrenheit 451" when the fireman Montag finds his wife studying her part in an interactive soap opera to be aired on the walls of their living room.

"They mailed me my part this morning," she enthuses. "I sent in some box tops. They write the script with one part missing…. When it comes time for the missing lines, they all look at me out of the three walls and I say the lines."

That's an awful moment, sad and haunting, and in its edge of longing, it evokes contemporary culture's alienation, which has expanded exponentially since Bradbury examined it half a century ago.



WHAT BRADBURY was getting at — and what "Bad Twin" hints at also — is the ever-thinning boundary between reality and illusion, a boundary that grows more tenuous every day. "Lost," such a construct tells us, takes place in our landscape, a fiction that bleeds into fact. If that's the case, though, how long is it until reality becomes a fantasy and we believe we are characters in the drama ourselves?

This is how a show like "Lost" wants to operate — framing its viewers as a community and itself as the centerpiece of a shared point of view. There's nothing inherently wrong with that; in fact, it illustrates the nature of fanhood, the way our affinities help us find purchase, a sense of identity in the world. At the same time, there's something creepy about the nudge-nudge, wink-wink insistence that "Bad Twin" was found instead of manufactured, and it goes beyond the idea of writing as a commodity, a gimmick, a ploy.

In fact, the marketing of the novel suggests something far more insidious — that we, the audience, exist not only to be manipulated but to participate in our manipulation by seeing it as cool. This is the kind of thing that literature has traditionally stood against.

But if the strange story of Gary Troup has anything to tell us, it's that for marketers, and increasingly even for ourselves, real life may be turning into a reverie in three dimensions, a mere template for a larger fiction.


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[Miss Mary]

Well, shoot any single fan among us could write this book! Dang, we missed a golden opportunity.....NOT! I will not read it.....but thanks for another aspect of Lost, furry.

Did the Lost writers approve of this book?

Mary

[furluvcats]

Yes, and they published it...there are no spoilers in it tho...just a little more insight!

[furluvcats]

Heres an interesting lil tidbit on the numbers...when you add them all up, they add to 108...which is the time on the counter thingy...BUT, This was new to me today....found on a Lost board...

The first number is 4. The fourth book in the Bible is Numbers.
Chapter 8, Verse 15 is:



"After you have purified the Levites and presented them as a wave offering, they are to come to do their work at the Tent of Meeting.

[GalvestonDuck]

Gosh, what's with the title screen going on for minutes and no commercial?

[Miss Mary]

Duckie - do you mean just the word Lost? That's it, no theme song, just eerie music and the word Lost, coming fuzzy at you.

You all won't believe this, but we have another Severe T-storm watch in the area. Yes, several counties in Indiana just to my west. It's only a matter of time before my county, Hamilton, will be added.

Anymore I'm going to have both the Sony Watchman and TV/Radio/Wx band radio's at the ready, with good batteries. And oh, a working flashlight.......LOL

Mary

[GalvestonDuck]

Yup, just the word "Lost" on the blue screen with the silhouette of the island. It was about 10 minutes or so in the first show (with all the recaps). Nothing else is on, so I thought I'd give it a shot. But when there should have been a commercial, there was just the title screen...no music, no narration, no fuzziness, nothing but something that looked almost like this, on air for a good two minutes:

http://web.utanet.at/ebrfl/Forum/LostWallpaper1.jpg

Made me wanna switch channels.

[Brent]

Yup, just the word "Lost" on the blue screen with the silhouette of the island. It was about 10 minutes or so in the first show (with all the recaps). Nothing else is on, so I thought I'd give it a shot. But when there should have been a commercial, there was just the title screen...no music, no narration, no fuzziness, nothing but something that looked almost like this, on air for a good two minutes:

http://web.utanet.at/ebrfl/Forum/LostWallpaper1.jpg

Made me wanna switch channels.

Odd. Sounds like a local issue(like they didn't program commericals). Maybe they were all watching American Idol and just didn't bother.

[GalvestonDuck]

Was it just me (since I don't know this show very well and don't know all the characters), or was the Russian guy with glasses in the final scene also played by Matthew Fox? It looked a lot like him.

[O Town]

Yes I thought that too, but its not him. Man I think I am more confused now about everything than before. As usual I got some answers but so many more to answer. How many more weeks till fall season starts up. Gesh, too long.

[Miss Mary]

O Town - I'm with you. I'm very confused, trying to straighten it all out and I can't! I think I need to sleep on it, read the websites I like to frequent to see what critics had to say. They usually pick up clues I've missed.

For the longest time tonight I kept trying to rule out Penelope being Sarah, Jack's ex-wife but that one stadium scene when Jack pulls up in scrubs, he's moments from talking to Desmond on the steps. Just prior to this Penelope talks to Desmond. Jack's ex was in the hospital at that moment.

So is Henry Gale really their leader? And are they really the good guys?

I half expect Walt to talk Michael into going back to help. I'm not so sure Hurley will fight back, he didn't want a gun in the first place.

Did you all catch that meaningful look between Jack and Kate? And then Sawyer's reaction to their "look"? I took it to mean - I got your back......care to confirm that?

I'm hoping a website lists these side stories and connections to the first two seasons tomorrow. Otherwise I'm going to be pretty darn confused - all summer!

My daughter wishes they'd have a few comic relief scenes or just everyday survival type scenes. Like the tender moment between Claire and Charlie - so cute! We said aww........Anyway, I agree with Laura, more island scenes would be good and less flashbacks.

Mary

[lurkey]

I'm hoping a website lists these side stories and connections to the first two seasons tomorrow. Otherwise I'm going to be pretty darn confused - all summer!


Mary

Mary --

Try [url=http://lostpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page]Lostpedia
[/url].

Lost action figures, anyone?

[GalvestonDuck]

Yeah -- Claire, what's up with her? How did someone fail to bring to my attention the fact that there's a blonde Aussie on that show???

[Miss Mary]

Oh she's a cutie. And probably the sweetest, kindest and best genuinely good person on this island. I'm surprised they didn't want Claire! Unless Hurley, Jack, Kate and Sawyer were wanted for other purposes.