TV: Lost - Season 6: The Final Season - Premieres Feb. 2nd
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Yup, Amy's baby grows up to be Ethan.
Wow, what an episode. Old alliances? Gone! New alliances - what are they? And a power struggle between Jack and Sawyer. Sawyer's just rubbing it in Jack's face (and I don't like that!). I don't know why it's such a surprise to Jack and Hurley that Sawyer and Juliet live together now. Come on! Hurley, you can't be that dense....LOL I guess Jack's attitude though is why Juliet would fall for someone like Sawyer?
How many of you were shouting outloud as young Ben brings Sayid a sandwich? At first I was yelling - don't eat it! But now it looks as if Ben will help Sayid escape. Although promos show him tied up next week.
I know you won't agree with this Derek but I want my Jack to be in charge again.
And I loved it when Sun whacked Ben with the paddle!
Next.
Wow, what an episode. Old alliances? Gone! New alliances - what are they? And a power struggle between Jack and Sawyer. Sawyer's just rubbing it in Jack's face (and I don't like that!). I don't know why it's such a surprise to Jack and Hurley that Sawyer and Juliet live together now. Come on! Hurley, you can't be that dense....LOL I guess Jack's attitude though is why Juliet would fall for someone like Sawyer?
How many of you were shouting outloud as young Ben brings Sayid a sandwich? At first I was yelling - don't eat it! But now it looks as if Ben will help Sayid escape. Although promos show him tied up next week.
I know you won't agree with this Derek but I want my Jack to be in charge again.
And I loved it when Sun whacked Ben with the paddle!
Next.
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young Ben brings Sayid a sandwich?
A sandwich without mustard, maybe Ben hid a key so that Sayid could get out of those handcuffs?
My big question is did Hurley, Kate, Jack, and Sayid going back in time 30 years prevent the purge?
Sayid is usually the big action figure so if it plays out that way, I think your intuition that Ben and Sayid might be hatching something is correct. Horace and Sawyer are too egotistical in this time/place begging to get their a$$es spanked. That self comparison to Churchill by Sawyer LOL!
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thoughts that popped up while watching:
1. Jack's work assignment --- Workman - janitor -- same as Ben's dad; will he meet Ben's dad?
2. little Ben. . . and Sayid being the Lostie to meet little Ben. .; does adult Ben remember Sayid from 1977?
3. exactly how messed up is Daniel Faraday?
4. Dr Candle = Dr. Pierre Chang
5. Radzinsky inn the Flame station -- the Kelvin's partner at the Swan before Desmond . . . Kelvin said he committed suicide. Radzinsky was the originator of the blast door map on the Swan station
6. the sub, having to be sedated on the trip. . .
7. Seeing the orientation video in its original state. . . .
8. the look on Juliet's face when Amy told her the baby's name . .
They are putting the pieces together, slowing. . . . .
1. Jack's work assignment --- Workman - janitor -- same as Ben's dad; will he meet Ben's dad?
2. little Ben. . . and Sayid being the Lostie to meet little Ben. .; does adult Ben remember Sayid from 1977?
3. exactly how messed up is Daniel Faraday?
4. Dr Candle = Dr. Pierre Chang
5. Radzinsky inn the Flame station -- the Kelvin's partner at the Swan before Desmond . . . Kelvin said he committed suicide. Radzinsky was the originator of the blast door map on the Swan station
6. the sub, having to be sedated on the trip. . .
7. Seeing the orientation video in its original state. . . .
8. the look on Juliet's face when Amy told her the baby's name . .
They are putting the pieces together, slowing. . . . .

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I am wondering if that runway got built back in time expecting that flight 316 would need it?
Could be some kind of "field of dreams", build it and they will land sort of thing.
Hurley is crazy enough to think of something like that and Jin knows about the plane and would be motivated to save Sun.
Older Ben who was not supposed to be on the flight seemed to know about the runway but he can't stay in this time with younger Ben can he?
Could be some kind of "field of dreams", build it and they will land sort of thing.
Hurley is crazy enough to think of something like that and Jin knows about the plane and would be motivated to save Sun.
Older Ben who was not supposed to be on the flight seemed to know about the runway but he can't stay in this time with younger Ben can he?
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I believe that's the runway that the Others had Sawyer and Kate working on when they were captured and kept in cages. Did the Others know it would be needed for the Losties return someday? Or did Ben know and just gave the order to build it? Or maybe they just knew it would be needed for something. It's a little too specific to be coincidence.
Do y'all think that the Losties are going to change the past or what happened, happened, like Faraday said? Sun and Frank are in present time (2007) and when Christian shows them the Orientation building, it looks like nobody has been there since the Dharma Initiative folks. When the Others moved in and took up residence there, don't you think they fixed up ALL the buildings? I mean, it was a nice little "family" community they had going on. It's hard to believe they'd leave that rundown shack in the midst of their cozy little Othertown. So... do our Losties somehow prevent the purge from ever happening?
Do y'all think that the Losties are going to change the past or what happened, happened, like Faraday said? Sun and Frank are in present time (2007) and when Christian shows them the Orientation building, it looks like nobody has been there since the Dharma Initiative folks. When the Others moved in and took up residence there, don't you think they fixed up ALL the buildings? I mean, it was a nice little "family" community they had going on. It's hard to believe they'd leave that rundown shack in the midst of their cozy little Othertown. So... do our Losties somehow prevent the purge from ever happening?
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I can see this episode created even more questions! I think you're right Kelly, that's the same runway Sawyer and Kate were forced to work on. I liked Sawyer's nickname for the Dharma village - Dharmaville. LOL!
Did you notice how Kate called Sawyer "James" and he called her "Kate"? Right off the bat that was unusual! I expected him to call her freckles.
Kelly - how do you feel about Jack being just one of the Dharma people and not in charge? Had a laugh when he was assigned janitorial duties but when Sawyer was all flip like with Jack, then I got upset. I want our Jack back - on top again!
Did you notice how Kate called Sawyer "James" and he called her "Kate"? Right off the bat that was unusual! I expected him to call her freckles.
Kelly - how do you feel about Jack being just one of the Dharma people and not in charge? Had a laugh when he was assigned janitorial duties but when Sawyer was all flip like with Jack, then I got upset. I want our Jack back - on top again!
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I have a feeling that Jack will get that role again. Or at least they'll be butting heads over who is in charge. Jack automatically falls into that role and like it or not, Sawyer has been there for THREE years (as opposed to 108 days for Jack), so I'm sure he feels some sort of "entitlement." Well, you know what I mean! I can't wait to see how it all plays out. I don't think happy times in Dharmaville
are going to last very long.

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I'm taking back the whole Miles=Dr. Chang's child. .. he can't be . . .
Ben didn't get transported to 1977 b/c he is on the island in 1977 (the whole paradox thing) Which leads to why Sun didn't transported to island. . .
Is she on the island as a baby in 1977? Is she the baby Dr Chang is talking about (and under a different name which would explain Jin not knowing that Sun is there already) or is Pak (remember there is a Pak/Widmore connection) on the island with Sun?
As for the Jack/Sawyer: things were done Jack's way . . jumping to do something w/o thinking. . see what happened, so Sawyersaid we are gonna do it my way now. . . think about before jumping into a situation
Ben didn't get transported to 1977 b/c he is on the island in 1977 (the whole paradox thing) Which leads to why Sun didn't transported to island. . .
Is she on the island as a baby in 1977? Is she the baby Dr Chang is talking about (and under a different name which would explain Jin not knowing that Sun is there already) or is Pak (remember there is a Pak/Widmore connection) on the island with Sun?
As for the Jack/Sawyer: things were done Jack's way . . jumping to do something w/o thinking. . see what happened, so Sawyersaid we are gonna do it my way now. . . think about before jumping into a situation
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anyone remember this?
Video from Dr Pierre Chang . .Comic Con 2008
Daniel Faraday is manning the video camera. . . .question is at the end does Dr Chang reference LaFleur (Sawyer)?
Video from Dr Pierre Chang . .Comic Con 2008
Daniel Faraday is manning the video camera. . . .question is at the end does Dr Chang reference LaFleur (Sawyer)?
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6. the sub, having to be sedated on the trip. . .
spoiler warning....
"Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes"
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Okay, so you all know by now how I must have the TV Guide website bookmarked - I do! - and I read several columns on a regular basis? LOL
One column is the Top 10 (usually, but this week they had 11) Moments from each week. Read on for #3......
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Richardson- ... 04246.aspx
Look, we don't like to criticize. But it's all we learned this week from the world of TV: Griping on Dancing with the Stars. Whining on American Idol. Sawyer teaching Jack how to lead on Lost. Why can't everyone be like Battlestar Galactica's Admiral Adama, letting silence speak louder than words? We apologize for the nit-pickiness of this week's Top Moments, and look forward to your critiques.
3. Best Power Struggle: Remember when Jack was the calm, deliberative Lostie and Sawyer was the wild card? When Jack objects to Sawyer reading a book and popping a cold one while Sayid sits in a Dharma prison, Sawyer says he's taking the deliberative, Winston Churchill approach. "That's how I saved your a** today, and that's how I'm going to save Sayid's tomorrow." There's a new sheriff in town, Hoss.
One column is the Top 10 (usually, but this week they had 11) Moments from each week. Read on for #3......
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Richardson- ... 04246.aspx
Look, we don't like to criticize. But it's all we learned this week from the world of TV: Griping on Dancing with the Stars. Whining on American Idol. Sawyer teaching Jack how to lead on Lost. Why can't everyone be like Battlestar Galactica's Admiral Adama, letting silence speak louder than words? We apologize for the nit-pickiness of this week's Top Moments, and look forward to your critiques.
3. Best Power Struggle: Remember when Jack was the calm, deliberative Lostie and Sawyer was the wild card? When Jack objects to Sawyer reading a book and popping a cold one while Sayid sits in a Dharma prison, Sawyer says he's taking the deliberative, Winston Churchill approach. "That's how I saved your a** today, and that's how I'm going to save Sayid's tomorrow." There's a new sheriff in town, Hoss.
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SPOILER ALERT: Titles of the remaining episodes spoiler alert b/c the title of two-hour season finale spoils what it will be focusing on . . .
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OMG!!!!!
The ending in tonight's episode.......blew me away.
In shock but I have to say pleasant shock. But what does this act do the future?
I thought I was confused before......
The ending in tonight's episode.......blew me away.
In shock but I have to say pleasant shock. But what does this act do the future?
I thought I was confused before......
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Spoiler Alert - don't read if you haven't watched last night's episode yet!
Thursday morning TV Guide summary, Mickey got a few things wrong but that's okay. Oldham was played by Sanderson, who played Larry, not a Daryl, on the Newhart show.
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Lost Episode Recap: "He's Our You"
Mar 26, 2009 01:41 AM ET by Mickey O'Connor 14 Comments
Lost
Wednesday's episode of Lost centered on Sayid, as we learned how he became a killer, how he ended up doing the bidding of Benjamin Linus and how Ilana managed to get him to board Ajira Flight 316. The new Dharma recruits settled into their groovy new lives, but it was not without tension as Kate and Juliet squared off over Sawyer, Sawyer tried his best to play double agent and Jack and Hurley sampled dipping sauces.
Namaste, y'all! Thanks to my esteemed colleague Adam Bryant for filling in for me last week while I was in Florida (golf, cocktails, dinner, repeat), and thanks to all of you for being generally very well-behaved in my absence. Let's get to it, shall we? As usual, I've reshuffled the narrative, so bear with me.
IRAQ SO FAR AWAY
We open on a young Sayid in sunny Tikrit, Iraq, who kills a chicken for his more sensitive brother (he was fat, which is TV shorthand for "sensitive"). This act pleases Sayid's difficult-to-please father, and a killer is born! Hooray?
RIB EYE BLOODY RIB EYE
We're in Russia, where Sayid systematically offs some guy. Once he's done, he reports back to Ben, which places him in the post-island timeline somewhere in the "Economist" era, when Sayid was a globetrotting assassin. But Ben has good news: Andropov was the last guy on the list of members of Widmore's organization who posed a threat to Sayid's friends. Or so Ben says, ha ha. So what does Sayid do now, now that the Linus Slaughterhouse has closed up shop? "I suppose you should go live your life; you're free, Sayid," says Ben. Sayid's confusion indicates that the last thing on his mind is building houses in the Dominican Republic.
But that's where Ben finds him next. How did he find him? "I looked," says Michael Emerson, with his signature creepy delivery. Ben tells Sayid that he thinks that John Locke has been murdered, and since Sayid isn't surprised to hear that John Locke is back in the real world, we can place this after "Jeremy Bentham" in the timeline. Ben, his pants afire, thinks that Sayid is in danger of being murdered by the same mythical killer, and gives as evidence the men who are watching Hugo in the mental institution. Ben wants him to start killing people again, because "it's in your nature; it's what you are," he says.
"I'm not what you think I am," Sayid replies, clearly still aching from his boyhood trauma.
This is presumably when Sayid goes to play buddy cops with Hurley, which ultimately leads him to the Long Beach Marina, where he storms off when he hears Ben's "hey, here's an idea, let's go back to Funhouse Island" plan.
He drowns his sorrows in a $120 glass of MacCutcheon whisky, coincidentally also the preferred brand of bad dads everywhere, including Anthony Cooper (Locke's father) and Charles Widmore. As you'll see from the aforementioned link, it has lots of other significance in the Lost canon.
Hey, guess who's at the same bar? No, not Norm and Cliff, but a sparkly, dolled-up Ilana, who is ordering a "bloody" rib eye and making her best sexy-eyes at Sayid, who, with his droll manner, immediately assumes that she's a prostie. No matter. After some chit-chat about trying to change and resisting temptation, yada yada, Sayid and Ilana are getting BIZ-AY.
To be fair to Sayid, Ilana is wearing some serious hooker boots, and as visions of Julia Roberts in a pageboy wig dance through Sayid's head, our mystery lady round-houses him into submission. At gunpoint, she reveals that she was hired to bring him to Guam (aha!) by the family of Peter Avellino, the man we saw Sayid kill on the golf course in the Seychelles.
As they board Ajira Flight 316, Sayid sees his long-lost friends and asks, "Are you sure we're going to Guam?" Why don't you ask Frank Lapidus that question, Sayid? He knows! He tries to convince Ilana to take a different flight, but to no avail. (Here's a thought: The marshal that escorted Kate on Oceanic 815 died. Mull.)
ALL THE DHARMA LADIES
"It's over, isn't it? Us, playing house?" Juliet asks, as she looks forlornly through the curtains at the milling-about Oceanic 6. Sawyer demurs, but this doesn't change Juliet's mood.
Hurley, who has been hilariously assigned to the Dharma kitchen, is serving breakfast to Jack and Kate. "Be sure to try the dipping sauces; they really bring out the ham," he advises. Heh. He also spills the beans about Jawyer (Julisaw? Fleuriet?) — "they live together now, and not as roommates" — to which Kate has an effortful non-reaction, which Jack notices.
Later, in the motor pool, Kate and Juliet, the sexiest grease monkeys ever, talk turkey about flat-four engines and, you know, the man they've both slept with. "I wasn't quite sure how to [address] it without it sounding like I was telling you to stay away," Juliet says. Kate says it's fine, which we know it totally isn't, because later Sawyer pays her a visit to ask why she came back. "I don't know why everyone else came back; I just know why I did," she replies significantly. Evangeline Lilly didn't have a lot of lines in this episode, but she played then with an almost palpable weight on her delicate shoulders. Well done, Evie. Matthew Fox, meanwhile, might as well have been an extra tonight.
JAILHOUSE RUSE
Back in Dharma jail, a young Harry Potter (er, Benjamin Linus) brings Sayid a chicken salad sandwich, and tries to suss out whether Sayid is a Hostile sent by Richard Alpert. While Sayid is noncommittal, Ben offers to help him anyway, and a demented friendship is born.
Then comes the questioning. Horace and Radzinsky take a shot at it, but Sayid remains silent. "Ask him about the model," suggests Radzinsky, cryptically. Next Sawyer goes to check on the welfare of his old friend. "A 12-year-old Ben Linus brought me a chicken salad sandwich — how do you think I'm doing?" he says. Sawyer suggests that Sayid fake being a Hostile defector, but he resists that plan. Why? We're not sure. Once Sayid witnesses Ben with his cruel father (the kid brought him yet another sandwich, like he runs the Dharma Subway franchise), Sayid recognizes something in the kid's lonely childhood, and forms an uneasy alliance.
But first! LaFleur shows up and Tazes him, bro, and carts him off to see Oldham. Who is Oldham? "He's our you," Sawyer mumbles. The eccentric Oldham is found in a tent by the side of the road listening to Billie Holiday. As played by guest star William Sanderson (you remember him as a Darryl on Newhart, and more recently has done a fun aw-shucks cop routine on True Blood), Oldham is both folksy and menacing, a character straight out of a Tarantino film, if Q. was a hippie.
They put him in restraints, and give him a sugar cube laced with truth serum. The funniest part of what happens next is that Sayid, totally tripping balls, actually does tell the whole truth, but since his tale is so fantastical ("I am from the future," he reveals), Oldham thinks he messed up the dosage. "You used exactly enough," Sayid says, and then he sits Indian-style on an old Oriental carpet and sips mushroom tea as his old lady braids his hair with daisies.
Since Operation Truth fails so miserably, Dharma calls a meeting of the Jumpsuit Quorum, who — at Amy's impassioned, new-mother behest — votes to execute Sayid. To cover his tracks, LaFleur votes with the crowd, making it unanimous.
Sawyer hot-foots it over to the lockup to try to fake some sort of breakout scenario to save his friend. A still-woozy Sayid has other plans though. He has a purpose. "Now I know exactly why I'm here," he tells Sawyer, who throws up his hands and searches, fruitlessly, for a cutting nickname.
Apparently the Dharma van has not taken any of Oldham's truth serum because its pants are definitely on fire, as it careers through New Otherton and straight into a house. While various dirty hippies — including Kate — attempt to reestablish order, young Ben springs Sayid from the pokey. Sayid notices the kid's broken glasses and says solemnly: "My father was a hard man as well." Ben, who's wearing a very ominous-looking hoodie, has visions of the streets paved with gold in Hostileville, as the pair skip off into the darkness. Sayid tells him that his purpose is to bring Ben to the Hostiles, which raises all sorts of questions about what exactly Sayid's future role will be.
But just as I'm formulating some sort of "Sayid caused the Purge" theory in my head, they meet up with Jin, who appears to be down with helping Sayid escape. But just as Jin is about to call LaFleur on the radio, Sayid does a quick, assassin-y neck twist on the poor guy, and he falls to the ground. Little Ben is OK with the violence, but little does he know. "You were right about me," Sayid says to the tween. "I am a killer." And with that, he shoots young Ben square in the chest. And... thump!
So what did you think of "He's Our You"? Are Jin and Ben dead? And what does that mean for our precarious timeline and Faraday's shakier-every-day "rules"? Will Kate wreck Sawyer and Juliet's happy home? And what kind of sauce do you use to "bring out the ham"?
Thursday morning TV Guide summary, Mickey got a few things wrong but that's okay. Oldham was played by Sanderson, who played Larry, not a Daryl, on the Newhart show.
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Lost Episode Recap: "He's Our You"
Mar 26, 2009 01:41 AM ET by Mickey O'Connor 14 Comments
Lost
Wednesday's episode of Lost centered on Sayid, as we learned how he became a killer, how he ended up doing the bidding of Benjamin Linus and how Ilana managed to get him to board Ajira Flight 316. The new Dharma recruits settled into their groovy new lives, but it was not without tension as Kate and Juliet squared off over Sawyer, Sawyer tried his best to play double agent and Jack and Hurley sampled dipping sauces.
Namaste, y'all! Thanks to my esteemed colleague Adam Bryant for filling in for me last week while I was in Florida (golf, cocktails, dinner, repeat), and thanks to all of you for being generally very well-behaved in my absence. Let's get to it, shall we? As usual, I've reshuffled the narrative, so bear with me.
IRAQ SO FAR AWAY
We open on a young Sayid in sunny Tikrit, Iraq, who kills a chicken for his more sensitive brother (he was fat, which is TV shorthand for "sensitive"). This act pleases Sayid's difficult-to-please father, and a killer is born! Hooray?
RIB EYE BLOODY RIB EYE
We're in Russia, where Sayid systematically offs some guy. Once he's done, he reports back to Ben, which places him in the post-island timeline somewhere in the "Economist" era, when Sayid was a globetrotting assassin. But Ben has good news: Andropov was the last guy on the list of members of Widmore's organization who posed a threat to Sayid's friends. Or so Ben says, ha ha. So what does Sayid do now, now that the Linus Slaughterhouse has closed up shop? "I suppose you should go live your life; you're free, Sayid," says Ben. Sayid's confusion indicates that the last thing on his mind is building houses in the Dominican Republic.
But that's where Ben finds him next. How did he find him? "I looked," says Michael Emerson, with his signature creepy delivery. Ben tells Sayid that he thinks that John Locke has been murdered, and since Sayid isn't surprised to hear that John Locke is back in the real world, we can place this after "Jeremy Bentham" in the timeline. Ben, his pants afire, thinks that Sayid is in danger of being murdered by the same mythical killer, and gives as evidence the men who are watching Hugo in the mental institution. Ben wants him to start killing people again, because "it's in your nature; it's what you are," he says.
"I'm not what you think I am," Sayid replies, clearly still aching from his boyhood trauma.
This is presumably when Sayid goes to play buddy cops with Hurley, which ultimately leads him to the Long Beach Marina, where he storms off when he hears Ben's "hey, here's an idea, let's go back to Funhouse Island" plan.
He drowns his sorrows in a $120 glass of MacCutcheon whisky, coincidentally also the preferred brand of bad dads everywhere, including Anthony Cooper (Locke's father) and Charles Widmore. As you'll see from the aforementioned link, it has lots of other significance in the Lost canon.
Hey, guess who's at the same bar? No, not Norm and Cliff, but a sparkly, dolled-up Ilana, who is ordering a "bloody" rib eye and making her best sexy-eyes at Sayid, who, with his droll manner, immediately assumes that she's a prostie. No matter. After some chit-chat about trying to change and resisting temptation, yada yada, Sayid and Ilana are getting BIZ-AY.
To be fair to Sayid, Ilana is wearing some serious hooker boots, and as visions of Julia Roberts in a pageboy wig dance through Sayid's head, our mystery lady round-houses him into submission. At gunpoint, she reveals that she was hired to bring him to Guam (aha!) by the family of Peter Avellino, the man we saw Sayid kill on the golf course in the Seychelles.
As they board Ajira Flight 316, Sayid sees his long-lost friends and asks, "Are you sure we're going to Guam?" Why don't you ask Frank Lapidus that question, Sayid? He knows! He tries to convince Ilana to take a different flight, but to no avail. (Here's a thought: The marshal that escorted Kate on Oceanic 815 died. Mull.)
ALL THE DHARMA LADIES
"It's over, isn't it? Us, playing house?" Juliet asks, as she looks forlornly through the curtains at the milling-about Oceanic 6. Sawyer demurs, but this doesn't change Juliet's mood.
Hurley, who has been hilariously assigned to the Dharma kitchen, is serving breakfast to Jack and Kate. "Be sure to try the dipping sauces; they really bring out the ham," he advises. Heh. He also spills the beans about Jawyer (Julisaw? Fleuriet?) — "they live together now, and not as roommates" — to which Kate has an effortful non-reaction, which Jack notices.
Later, in the motor pool, Kate and Juliet, the sexiest grease monkeys ever, talk turkey about flat-four engines and, you know, the man they've both slept with. "I wasn't quite sure how to [address] it without it sounding like I was telling you to stay away," Juliet says. Kate says it's fine, which we know it totally isn't, because later Sawyer pays her a visit to ask why she came back. "I don't know why everyone else came back; I just know why I did," she replies significantly. Evangeline Lilly didn't have a lot of lines in this episode, but she played then with an almost palpable weight on her delicate shoulders. Well done, Evie. Matthew Fox, meanwhile, might as well have been an extra tonight.
JAILHOUSE RUSE
Back in Dharma jail, a young Harry Potter (er, Benjamin Linus) brings Sayid a chicken salad sandwich, and tries to suss out whether Sayid is a Hostile sent by Richard Alpert. While Sayid is noncommittal, Ben offers to help him anyway, and a demented friendship is born.
Then comes the questioning. Horace and Radzinsky take a shot at it, but Sayid remains silent. "Ask him about the model," suggests Radzinsky, cryptically. Next Sawyer goes to check on the welfare of his old friend. "A 12-year-old Ben Linus brought me a chicken salad sandwich — how do you think I'm doing?" he says. Sawyer suggests that Sayid fake being a Hostile defector, but he resists that plan. Why? We're not sure. Once Sayid witnesses Ben with his cruel father (the kid brought him yet another sandwich, like he runs the Dharma Subway franchise), Sayid recognizes something in the kid's lonely childhood, and forms an uneasy alliance.
But first! LaFleur shows up and Tazes him, bro, and carts him off to see Oldham. Who is Oldham? "He's our you," Sawyer mumbles. The eccentric Oldham is found in a tent by the side of the road listening to Billie Holiday. As played by guest star William Sanderson (you remember him as a Darryl on Newhart, and more recently has done a fun aw-shucks cop routine on True Blood), Oldham is both folksy and menacing, a character straight out of a Tarantino film, if Q. was a hippie.
They put him in restraints, and give him a sugar cube laced with truth serum. The funniest part of what happens next is that Sayid, totally tripping balls, actually does tell the whole truth, but since his tale is so fantastical ("I am from the future," he reveals), Oldham thinks he messed up the dosage. "You used exactly enough," Sayid says, and then he sits Indian-style on an old Oriental carpet and sips mushroom tea as his old lady braids his hair with daisies.
Since Operation Truth fails so miserably, Dharma calls a meeting of the Jumpsuit Quorum, who — at Amy's impassioned, new-mother behest — votes to execute Sayid. To cover his tracks, LaFleur votes with the crowd, making it unanimous.
Sawyer hot-foots it over to the lockup to try to fake some sort of breakout scenario to save his friend. A still-woozy Sayid has other plans though. He has a purpose. "Now I know exactly why I'm here," he tells Sawyer, who throws up his hands and searches, fruitlessly, for a cutting nickname.
Apparently the Dharma van has not taken any of Oldham's truth serum because its pants are definitely on fire, as it careers through New Otherton and straight into a house. While various dirty hippies — including Kate — attempt to reestablish order, young Ben springs Sayid from the pokey. Sayid notices the kid's broken glasses and says solemnly: "My father was a hard man as well." Ben, who's wearing a very ominous-looking hoodie, has visions of the streets paved with gold in Hostileville, as the pair skip off into the darkness. Sayid tells him that his purpose is to bring Ben to the Hostiles, which raises all sorts of questions about what exactly Sayid's future role will be.
But just as I'm formulating some sort of "Sayid caused the Purge" theory in my head, they meet up with Jin, who appears to be down with helping Sayid escape. But just as Jin is about to call LaFleur on the radio, Sayid does a quick, assassin-y neck twist on the poor guy, and he falls to the ground. Little Ben is OK with the violence, but little does he know. "You were right about me," Sayid says to the tween. "I am a killer." And with that, he shoots young Ben square in the chest. And... thump!
So what did you think of "He's Our You"? Are Jin and Ben dead? And what does that mean for our precarious timeline and Faraday's shakier-every-day "rules"? Will Kate wreck Sawyer and Juliet's happy home? And what kind of sauce do you use to "bring out the ham"?
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Another ~excellent~ Lost blog about last night's episode. Don't read if you haven't watched the episode!!!
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THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 2009 AT 9:59 AM
Lostwatch: Everybody Kills Hitler on Their First Trip
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Before you read this post, whip up a batch of waffles—don't burn the bacon!—and watch last night's Lost.
If you had a time machine, what would you do? I don't really need to ask, do I? "I'd go back and kill Hitler!" Everybody kills Hitler. The only question is: do you do it before or after you go back and bet on every World Series, upset-victory horse race and championship boxing match? They shouldn't even call them time machines. They should call them Kill-Hitler Machines.
Except, except. What if you had to kill Hitler when he was a baby? What if he was a 12-year-old boy, with an abusive dad, who had done you a kindness when you were vulnerable? What if he was a sickly kid with glasses who, if you squinted at him just right, looked like he was Harry Potter?
Now, Ben Linus is not Hitler. (Notwithstanding Sayid's hyperbolic statement that he was guilty of "genocide"--though mass murder's bad enough.) He's still a murderous, dangerous man who, from the reasonable standpoint of most of Oceanic 815's veterans, the world would be better off without. The fact remains that wanting someone dead is one thing; actually doing the deed, and doing it when the person is vulnerable, is quite another. Killing an abstraction is one thing; killing an actual child is another. Right thing to do or not, it requires a capability that many of us don't have. It requires killing a part of yourself, if that part is not already dead.
This is the drama that played out in Sayid's shocker shooting of young Ben. (Notice I said "shooting," not "killing." We're operating on Lost rules here: if they don't sever the head and burn the body, he ain't dead.) Making an audience see this is the difference between treating your characters as plot devices and treating them as people. And that was the achievement of "He's Our You," which—if not as revelation-packed or breathtaking as other Lost episodes—was emotionally a point-blank hit.
First, there's the Sayid side of the equation. This was a kind of return to old Lost flashback episodes, in which an accumulation of details from a character's past life reveal his flaws and challenges and inform his decisions in the present. In this case, to be honest, they told us a lot of what we already knew about Sayid. (1) That he sees himself as fundamentally damaged (though the interesting question is, did that damage result from his life of violence, or did it lead to it?). And (2) that he really, really hates Ben.
More interesting to me was what unfolded for Sayid in the "present" time on the Island. We are used to thinking of Lost as a show about redemption. People come to the Island who have great crimes and regrets in the past, and are here to deal with them—even if they often end up repeating the same mistakes. But what Sayid ends up deciding seems to be something different. The usual arc you might expect from this kind of story is that Sayid has been broken down, sees himself--as he says under truth serum--as a "bad man' who must make penance. Typically, you'd expect him to redeem himself through some act of self-sacrifice, breaking his pattern of violence.
But Sayid's decision, even though he seems to arrive at it by hitting the emotional bottom and recognizing the emptiness of his deeds, is the opposite. He is a bad man, he decides. And the sacrifice he must make is a moral sacrifice: he must continue to be a bad man, and do one more very bad thing, for the greater good. He is not going to redeem himself and save his soul; his purpose on the Island, he decides, is to sacrifice his soul, surrender to his nature as a murderer, and do one more hit job. His soul is going to fall on its sword.
This part of the story made the final scene powerful and, to me at least, shocking. (I realized, once we flashed back to the scene at the dock, that Sayid would decide to kill young Ben; but I didn't think he'd be able to pull the trigger.) But that was the easy part, since we've known and loved Sayid for five seasons now.
The tricky part was humanizing Ben, or at least young Ben, and that's where it becomes clear that Lost would not be a great genre drama if it were not also a great character drama. The ending only really works if Lost gets you to a place where you are willing to sympathize with its arch-villain. And even when you depict that villain as a kid getting knocked around by his dad, that's easier said than done. This was the whole project of the Star Wars prequels, after all: taking the character you'd been taught to despise for three movies and making him human. Sterling Beaumon made me more sympathetic for Ben Linus in a few episodes than the Star Wars did in three movies for Anakin.
The "killing" still leaves plenty of questions. Foremost, of course: is he dead? I've already said I think not, for the usual Twelve Monkeys, you-can't-change-the-past reasons (to which add: apparently Ben knew that Jin was alive and on the Island because he saw him before being shot). My money's got to be on healed-by-the-Island, right? But some people have advanced theories that there are signs the past has been changed (like the state of the Others/Dharma compound Sun and Frank visit). Certainly, if it turns out that Daniel Faraday was wrong, things get interesting.
But maybe there are other reasons besides quantum physics that we should assume Ben lived to become Big Ben. At this point, of course, Young Ben was already drawn to the Others, but he's not necessarily bad yet. What better way to become bad, however, than to find that you can trust no one, that your dad beats you, that you can bring a stranger sandwiches and help him when no one else will and then, first chance he gets, he plugs you in the heart for no apparent reason?
Maybe it's true, in other words, that you can't change the past because of logical paradoxes. But maybe it's also true, in a moral sense, that one can't go back and rid the world of an evil, when by traveling back to do the deed, you carry the legacy of that evil with you. Maybe if you accept that it is you destiny to be "a bad man," you can't help but sow bad.
Or put it another way: if you can't even change yourself, how can you possibly expect to change history?
Now for the hail of bullets:
* Any Carlos Casteneda fans care to weigh in on the significance of Ben giving Sayid A Separate Reality? (That'll take off on Amazon, I'm sure.)
* Any thoughts on when exactly Sayid came to the realization he had to kill Young Ben? It seems plain that he wasn't thinking that when he first encountered him, nor when Ben was knocked around by his dad. And even when Sayid said that he knew the reason he returned to the Island after taking Oldham's happy juice, I'm not entirely sure that that was his meaning then, or if he came to the decision when Ben came to free him. Thoughts?
* Assuming Ben isn't dead, I'm looking forward to his and Sayid's first reunion scene. Is Ben still aggrieved that Sayid shot him or—having come to know what he does now—is it just another piece of useful information that allowed him to use Sayid as a killer? In a perfect world, in which I had no other deadlines, I'd unpack my Lost DVDs and re-watch every pre-Oceanic Six scene involving Ben and Sayid. If anyone wants to do that, report back.
* "Make a decision, or I'll call Ann Arbor." As a University of Michigan alumnus, I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard Ann Arbor referenced menacingly for anything not involving football or law school.
* Speaking of which, according to Lost's timeline, I believe Dharma was still active pre-purge—and presumably still headquartered in Ann Arbor—while I was on campus there. I am not at liberty to answer questions about any "experiments" I participated in as an undergraduate.
* I love it that Sayid and Sawyer had a scene together and Sawyer was the straight man. "How you doing?" "A 12 year old Ben Linus brought me a chicken salad sandwich. How do you think I'm doing?" (Though I did like "Even the new mom wants you dead" later in the episode.) Oh, and nice callback to the chicken in the first scene. No wonder dude's not hungry.
* Excellent casting of Wiliam Sanderson, whom I always enjoy but who, here, managed to be menacing, but menacing in a different way than you'd expect. (Ditto, in a different way, the character of Horace, who manages to be believably geeky, yet with a hint of cult-leader creepiness, as when he presses Lafleur to make the vote unanimous. He's the scariest nonprofit administrator I've ever seen on TV.)
* "John Locke is dead. I think he was murdered." Oh, Ben, you card!
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THURSDAY, MARCH 26, 2009 AT 9:59 AM
Lostwatch: Everybody Kills Hitler on Their First Trip
Posted by James Poniewozik | Comments (60) | Permalink | Trackbacks (0) | Email This
Before you read this post, whip up a batch of waffles—don't burn the bacon!—and watch last night's Lost.
If you had a time machine, what would you do? I don't really need to ask, do I? "I'd go back and kill Hitler!" Everybody kills Hitler. The only question is: do you do it before or after you go back and bet on every World Series, upset-victory horse race and championship boxing match? They shouldn't even call them time machines. They should call them Kill-Hitler Machines.
Except, except. What if you had to kill Hitler when he was a baby? What if he was a 12-year-old boy, with an abusive dad, who had done you a kindness when you were vulnerable? What if he was a sickly kid with glasses who, if you squinted at him just right, looked like he was Harry Potter?
Now, Ben Linus is not Hitler. (Notwithstanding Sayid's hyperbolic statement that he was guilty of "genocide"--though mass murder's bad enough.) He's still a murderous, dangerous man who, from the reasonable standpoint of most of Oceanic 815's veterans, the world would be better off without. The fact remains that wanting someone dead is one thing; actually doing the deed, and doing it when the person is vulnerable, is quite another. Killing an abstraction is one thing; killing an actual child is another. Right thing to do or not, it requires a capability that many of us don't have. It requires killing a part of yourself, if that part is not already dead.
This is the drama that played out in Sayid's shocker shooting of young Ben. (Notice I said "shooting," not "killing." We're operating on Lost rules here: if they don't sever the head and burn the body, he ain't dead.) Making an audience see this is the difference between treating your characters as plot devices and treating them as people. And that was the achievement of "He's Our You," which—if not as revelation-packed or breathtaking as other Lost episodes—was emotionally a point-blank hit.
First, there's the Sayid side of the equation. This was a kind of return to old Lost flashback episodes, in which an accumulation of details from a character's past life reveal his flaws and challenges and inform his decisions in the present. In this case, to be honest, they told us a lot of what we already knew about Sayid. (1) That he sees himself as fundamentally damaged (though the interesting question is, did that damage result from his life of violence, or did it lead to it?). And (2) that he really, really hates Ben.
More interesting to me was what unfolded for Sayid in the "present" time on the Island. We are used to thinking of Lost as a show about redemption. People come to the Island who have great crimes and regrets in the past, and are here to deal with them—even if they often end up repeating the same mistakes. But what Sayid ends up deciding seems to be something different. The usual arc you might expect from this kind of story is that Sayid has been broken down, sees himself--as he says under truth serum--as a "bad man' who must make penance. Typically, you'd expect him to redeem himself through some act of self-sacrifice, breaking his pattern of violence.
But Sayid's decision, even though he seems to arrive at it by hitting the emotional bottom and recognizing the emptiness of his deeds, is the opposite. He is a bad man, he decides. And the sacrifice he must make is a moral sacrifice: he must continue to be a bad man, and do one more very bad thing, for the greater good. He is not going to redeem himself and save his soul; his purpose on the Island, he decides, is to sacrifice his soul, surrender to his nature as a murderer, and do one more hit job. His soul is going to fall on its sword.
This part of the story made the final scene powerful and, to me at least, shocking. (I realized, once we flashed back to the scene at the dock, that Sayid would decide to kill young Ben; but I didn't think he'd be able to pull the trigger.) But that was the easy part, since we've known and loved Sayid for five seasons now.
The tricky part was humanizing Ben, or at least young Ben, and that's where it becomes clear that Lost would not be a great genre drama if it were not also a great character drama. The ending only really works if Lost gets you to a place where you are willing to sympathize with its arch-villain. And even when you depict that villain as a kid getting knocked around by his dad, that's easier said than done. This was the whole project of the Star Wars prequels, after all: taking the character you'd been taught to despise for three movies and making him human. Sterling Beaumon made me more sympathetic for Ben Linus in a few episodes than the Star Wars did in three movies for Anakin.
The "killing" still leaves plenty of questions. Foremost, of course: is he dead? I've already said I think not, for the usual Twelve Monkeys, you-can't-change-the-past reasons (to which add: apparently Ben knew that Jin was alive and on the Island because he saw him before being shot). My money's got to be on healed-by-the-Island, right? But some people have advanced theories that there are signs the past has been changed (like the state of the Others/Dharma compound Sun and Frank visit). Certainly, if it turns out that Daniel Faraday was wrong, things get interesting.
But maybe there are other reasons besides quantum physics that we should assume Ben lived to become Big Ben. At this point, of course, Young Ben was already drawn to the Others, but he's not necessarily bad yet. What better way to become bad, however, than to find that you can trust no one, that your dad beats you, that you can bring a stranger sandwiches and help him when no one else will and then, first chance he gets, he plugs you in the heart for no apparent reason?
Maybe it's true, in other words, that you can't change the past because of logical paradoxes. But maybe it's also true, in a moral sense, that one can't go back and rid the world of an evil, when by traveling back to do the deed, you carry the legacy of that evil with you. Maybe if you accept that it is you destiny to be "a bad man," you can't help but sow bad.
Or put it another way: if you can't even change yourself, how can you possibly expect to change history?
Now for the hail of bullets:
* Any Carlos Casteneda fans care to weigh in on the significance of Ben giving Sayid A Separate Reality? (That'll take off on Amazon, I'm sure.)
* Any thoughts on when exactly Sayid came to the realization he had to kill Young Ben? It seems plain that he wasn't thinking that when he first encountered him, nor when Ben was knocked around by his dad. And even when Sayid said that he knew the reason he returned to the Island after taking Oldham's happy juice, I'm not entirely sure that that was his meaning then, or if he came to the decision when Ben came to free him. Thoughts?
* Assuming Ben isn't dead, I'm looking forward to his and Sayid's first reunion scene. Is Ben still aggrieved that Sayid shot him or—having come to know what he does now—is it just another piece of useful information that allowed him to use Sayid as a killer? In a perfect world, in which I had no other deadlines, I'd unpack my Lost DVDs and re-watch every pre-Oceanic Six scene involving Ben and Sayid. If anyone wants to do that, report back.
* "Make a decision, or I'll call Ann Arbor." As a University of Michigan alumnus, I can honestly say this is the first time I've heard Ann Arbor referenced menacingly for anything not involving football or law school.
* Speaking of which, according to Lost's timeline, I believe Dharma was still active pre-purge—and presumably still headquartered in Ann Arbor—while I was on campus there. I am not at liberty to answer questions about any "experiments" I participated in as an undergraduate.
* I love it that Sayid and Sawyer had a scene together and Sawyer was the straight man. "How you doing?" "A 12 year old Ben Linus brought me a chicken salad sandwich. How do you think I'm doing?" (Though I did like "Even the new mom wants you dead" later in the episode.) Oh, and nice callback to the chicken in the first scene. No wonder dude's not hungry.
* Excellent casting of Wiliam Sanderson, whom I always enjoy but who, here, managed to be menacing, but menacing in a different way than you'd expect. (Ditto, in a different way, the character of Horace, who manages to be believably geeky, yet with a hint of cult-leader creepiness, as when he presses Lafleur to make the vote unanimous. He's the scariest nonprofit administrator I've ever seen on TV.)
* "John Locke is dead. I think he was murdered." Oh, Ben, you card!
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I'll have to watch that sunny. Thanks.
Hey here's something random I want to share.
Usually I'm a very inclusive type person, hate to exclude anyone or leave people off a guest list or leave others out of a conversation.
But as time goes on, each time I read an article about where TV's at today (writing, directing, acting), Lost invariably comes up. As an example of some of the best that current TV can offer. If I'm with a Lost buddy, we just look at eachother and of course agree......exchanging ~that~ look, as if to say - thank God I watched this show. LOL
Sometimes a coworker will mutter these words - I should have gotten into that show.....(as if it's too late to catch up now......to which I have agree, it would be difficult to do so late in the game).
And I walk away like a brilliant person, because well I "got into this show"....although a few episodes late I have to add but I did catch up by Season 1's end.....
Just wanted to share. Being a Lost fan is like belonging to an exclusive club! The people who "get it" club.....how smart we are! he he
Hey here's something random I want to share.
Usually I'm a very inclusive type person, hate to exclude anyone or leave people off a guest list or leave others out of a conversation.
But as time goes on, each time I read an article about where TV's at today (writing, directing, acting), Lost invariably comes up. As an example of some of the best that current TV can offer. If I'm with a Lost buddy, we just look at eachother and of course agree......exchanging ~that~ look, as if to say - thank God I watched this show. LOL
Sometimes a coworker will mutter these words - I should have gotten into that show.....(as if it's too late to catch up now......to which I have agree, it would be difficult to do so late in the game).
And I walk away like a brilliant person, because well I "got into this show"....although a few episodes late I have to add but I did catch up by Season 1's end.....
Just wanted to share. Being a Lost fan is like belonging to an exclusive club! The people who "get it" club.....how smart we are! he he
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Re: TV: Lost - Season 5!!!!
TV Guide interview with actor, Sterling Beaumon, portraying young Ben:
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Lost-previe ... 04584.aspx
Now and Ben: Has a Blast in the Past Changed Lost's Future?
Mar 31, 2009 08:45 PM ET by Matt Mitovich Be the first to leave a comment
Lost's Michael Emerson had warned TVGuide.com readers that moments would come along this season where you leap off the sofa and shout, "They can't do that! Can they...?" One such shocker expelled from Sayid's gun and landed in a young Benjamin Linus' chest at the end of last week's episode. Sterling Beaumon, 13, shared with us a look at how that blast in the past may change Ben's future. Or not.
TVGuide.com: I know you've done episodes of ER, Heroes and Bones. But was Lost your first death scene?
Sterling Beaumon: No, actually. I was on Crossing Jordan and I had to lie on a coroner's table for almost the whole episode. And on ER, I died in the end, with a tumor in my brain....
TVGuide.com: Of course, my question presumes that Young Ben died from Sayid's gunshot. Might that not be the case?
Beaumon: You'll have to watch and find out. If this tells you anything, I am in two more episodes.
TVGuide.com: Regardless of whether young Ben dies or not, will there be repercussions for what Sayid did?
Beaumon: It will be talked about quite often. That scene may have the greatest significance of any on this show.
TVGuide.com: I read in a previous interview that when you first appeared on Lost (during Season 3), you were warned not to mimic Michael Emerson, because Ben wasn't that Ben yet. Is it safe to say he now is?
Beaumon: Not quite yet....
TVGuide.com: Something more would have to happen to put him on that path?
Beaumon: Yes. And that Ben.... Well, if you go back in the season to when they first met up with [Amy], they tell Daniel, "We can't interfere, because we can't change time," and Daniel says, "It doesn't matter now, because we're stuck here." So now they can change time. So that big older mean Ben that we know very well may not even exist.
TVGuide.com: OK. I was going to say, Who better to carry out the massacre in a few years than a presumed-dead, angry Ben, but....
Beaumon: Maybe the massacre is never going to happen now.
TVGuide.com: How many kids did you beat out for this role?
Beaumon: There were, like, four pages of sign-ins for the first audition.
TVGuide.com: Did you wear a version of Ben's tell-tale glasses for the audition?
Beaumon: No, because we did not even know who the character was. He was called "Young Andrew," and it wasn't even a scene from the "Man Behind the Curtain" episode.
TVGuide.com: Do your eyes look like Michael Emerson's just naturally?
Beaumon: That was one of the requirements. The kid had to have blue eyes and brown hair.
TVGuide.com: Before we go, you said you had a few things you wanted to clear up....
Beaumon: Yes, I was just reading the message boards — I know, I'm so bad — and there are some things I want to address. For example, Ben arrived on the island in 1974, when he was 12 years old. Now it's three years later, so he's like 14 or 15. When Sayid refers to "12-year-old Ben" [in the episode "He's Our You"], he just didn't know. They will later say how old I really am. Also, some people are thinking that Ben killed his dad in the van fire that he set; he didn't. Older Ben killed his dad in, like, 1995. Those are just a few things I'm seeing out there.
TVGuide.com: All noted. So, what's next for you after Lost?
Beaumon: I have an animated feature coming out, Astro Boy, with Nicolas Cage, Freddie Highmore and Madeline Carroll, the girl who plays [Ben's childhood friend] Annie. Everyone is like, "The Island, it wants you two to work together!" [Laughs]
http://www.tvguide.com/News/Lost-previe ... 04584.aspx
Now and Ben: Has a Blast in the Past Changed Lost's Future?
Mar 31, 2009 08:45 PM ET by Matt Mitovich Be the first to leave a comment
Lost's Michael Emerson had warned TVGuide.com readers that moments would come along this season where you leap off the sofa and shout, "They can't do that! Can they...?" One such shocker expelled from Sayid's gun and landed in a young Benjamin Linus' chest at the end of last week's episode. Sterling Beaumon, 13, shared with us a look at how that blast in the past may change Ben's future. Or not.
TVGuide.com: I know you've done episodes of ER, Heroes and Bones. But was Lost your first death scene?
Sterling Beaumon: No, actually. I was on Crossing Jordan and I had to lie on a coroner's table for almost the whole episode. And on ER, I died in the end, with a tumor in my brain....
TVGuide.com: Of course, my question presumes that Young Ben died from Sayid's gunshot. Might that not be the case?
Beaumon: You'll have to watch and find out. If this tells you anything, I am in two more episodes.
TVGuide.com: Regardless of whether young Ben dies or not, will there be repercussions for what Sayid did?
Beaumon: It will be talked about quite often. That scene may have the greatest significance of any on this show.
TVGuide.com: I read in a previous interview that when you first appeared on Lost (during Season 3), you were warned not to mimic Michael Emerson, because Ben wasn't that Ben yet. Is it safe to say he now is?
Beaumon: Not quite yet....
TVGuide.com: Something more would have to happen to put him on that path?
Beaumon: Yes. And that Ben.... Well, if you go back in the season to when they first met up with [Amy], they tell Daniel, "We can't interfere, because we can't change time," and Daniel says, "It doesn't matter now, because we're stuck here." So now they can change time. So that big older mean Ben that we know very well may not even exist.
TVGuide.com: OK. I was going to say, Who better to carry out the massacre in a few years than a presumed-dead, angry Ben, but....
Beaumon: Maybe the massacre is never going to happen now.
TVGuide.com: How many kids did you beat out for this role?
Beaumon: There were, like, four pages of sign-ins for the first audition.
TVGuide.com: Did you wear a version of Ben's tell-tale glasses for the audition?
Beaumon: No, because we did not even know who the character was. He was called "Young Andrew," and it wasn't even a scene from the "Man Behind the Curtain" episode.
TVGuide.com: Do your eyes look like Michael Emerson's just naturally?
Beaumon: That was one of the requirements. The kid had to have blue eyes and brown hair.
TVGuide.com: Before we go, you said you had a few things you wanted to clear up....
Beaumon: Yes, I was just reading the message boards — I know, I'm so bad — and there are some things I want to address. For example, Ben arrived on the island in 1974, when he was 12 years old. Now it's three years later, so he's like 14 or 15. When Sayid refers to "12-year-old Ben" [in the episode "He's Our You"], he just didn't know. They will later say how old I really am. Also, some people are thinking that Ben killed his dad in the van fire that he set; he didn't. Older Ben killed his dad in, like, 1995. Those are just a few things I'm seeing out there.
TVGuide.com: All noted. So, what's next for you after Lost?
Beaumon: I have an animated feature coming out, Astro Boy, with Nicolas Cage, Freddie Highmore and Madeline Carroll, the girl who plays [Ben's childhood friend] Annie. Everyone is like, "The Island, it wants you two to work together!" [Laughs]
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