BREAKING NEWS: Andrea Yates Not Guilty in Retrial

[gtalum]

She knew what she was doing. She did not necessarily know that it was wrong. That's insanity.

[gtalum]

i am saying she was able to overcome her suicidal tendencies and spare her own life. the proof? she is alive today

And that is irrelevant to insanity.

[Janice]

Well, I guess we are all insane then. That statement could apply to all of us.

[gtalum]

Well, I guess we are all insane then. That statement could apply to all of us.

I know right from wrong. I assume you do as well. Your posts seem to indicate so, anyway.

[rainstorm]

What about her oldest son? He fought her and she admitted it made her angry! Is that not knowing what you are doing? She showed persistence by overpowering him and drowning him.

thats very sad, linda. we seem to be focused on poor andrea, but her kids were subjected to something so horrific its almost impossible to believe. yates may have been insane, the jury has said she was.

but when i heard her husband bemoan the ordeal he and andrea have gone through, saying no one has suffered more than the 2 of them, i felt disgusted that he seems to forget the kids

[gtalum]

The husband is definitley a dirtbag. I'm surprised that the DA didn't try to nail him with some form of negligence. Although I'm sure that teh way laws are structured in most southern states, it's not negliegent to saddle your wife with the sole care of 5 kids even when she's shown signs of depression and attempts at suicide.

[CajunMama]

Rainstorm, you are so knowledgable on this....were you there by her side and at the trial?

[Janice]

Gtalum, I was not finished with my post. I hit the enter button too soon This forum is making me insane.....

[Regit]

I'm just curious. How many of you claiming to believe she wasn't insane know what the DSM-IV is? And for those who do, have you read it?

[Janice]

Ok, In my humble opinion, I come to this conclusion... She was definately mentally ill, but she was full aware of what she was doing. She contemplated suicide before but this time chose to kill her kids instead. So, she made a concious decision which makes me believe she knew what she was doing.

[Skywatch_NC]

Just cannot imagine the hades on earth that day that those kids went through!

[rainstorm]

Rainstorm, you are so knowledgable on this....were you there by her side and at the trial?

had i been there when she was killing her kids i would have done my best to save them. had i come upon her moments after she killed them, i would have lit into her like a bat out of hades. had i been on the jury, it would have been a hung jury.

[Air Force Met]

i am saying she was able to overcome her suicidal tendencies and spare her own life. the proof? she is alive today

That is not proof of anything you are saying. That is NOT a meticulous plan.

Meticulous=Extremely or excessively concerned with details.
Plan=A scheme, program, or method worked out beforehand for the accomplishment of an objective: a plan of attack.

APY did NEITHER of those things. She was in teh hospital two weeks before this happened. She did not overcome them...she snapped TOTALLY before they overcame her.

Please show me in ANY of her actions...through ANY court statements...either before or after the birth of the 5th child where APY was concerned with the details of the deaths...and where she had a scheme.

Put what you are saying together=A scheme that is excessively concerned with details.

Not in this case. Maybe you need to do a little more research into this case.

Here is a question. Was she mentally ill? Not insane (not knowing right from wrong...but mentally ill)?

And if yes...was she cured? And if yes...when?

[rainstorm]

Ok, In my humble opinion, I come to this conclusion... She was definately mentally ill, but she was full aware of what she was doing. She contemplated suicide before but this time chose to kill her kids instead. So, she made a concious decision which makes me believe she knew what she was doing.

thats my point exactly

[Audrey2Katrina]

She knew what she was doing. She did not necessarily know that it was wrong. That's insanity.

You know, someone could make that same argument for a LOT of serial killers! I just don't buy it. Yes, the jury did--but that still doesn't make it right--a jury found OJ Simpson not guilty as well--our justice system is largely BROKE.

Too simple of a definition and really not proveable beyond reasonable doubt--too nebulous as well. It could be validly argued that ANYONE who callously takes another human life--is INSANE... and should thereby be placed in nice mental institutions they deserve to be in. What she clearly is, is a menace to society, and a proven danger to children. What she did was one of the most heinous attrocities imaginable, and the real loser in all this ... is JUSTICE. This woman needs to be put away for LIFE. I dearly hope that at the very least she is surgically prevented from EVER having children again, and that she be branded what she is... a danger to children and NEVER EVER allowed anywhere near them again--I mean... once "insane" there's no guarantee those voices won't tell her to "save" more kids by murdering them. She's a blight on society IMO, and needs to be as completely isolated as possible. If not prison--then keep her in a mental institute for the rest of her sick--SICK days.

Sadly, knowing our penchant for identifying with perps more than victims, I fear this will never be the case.

A2K

[rainstorm]

The husband is definitley a dirtbag. I'm surprised that the DA didn't try to nail him with some form of negligence. Although I'm sure that teh way laws are structured in most southern states, it's not negliegent to saddle your wife with the sole care of 5 kids even when she's shown signs of depression and attempts at suicide.

that we can agree on. i dont think he cared about them then, and he has forgotten them now

[Air Force Met]

I'm just curious. How many of you claiming to believe she wasn't insane know what the DSM-IV is? And for those who do, have you read it?

I know what it is... It't the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders...

And I've read it...but not all of it...but the parts concerned with ADHD...314.01

and...codes 296...for Bi-polar I/II

Again, my graduate degrees aren't weather related.

[Air Force Met]

The husband is definitley a dirtbag. I'm surprised that the DA didn't try to nail him with some form of negligence. Although I'm sure that teh way laws are structured in most southern states, it's not negliegent to saddle your wife with the sole care of 5 kids even when she's shown signs of depression and attempts at suicide.

that we can agree on

Yes we can. Unfortunately...we don't have a dirtbag law.

Sad part is there are women who are flocking to him out of sympathy.

[sunny]

The husband is definitley a dirtbag. I'm surprised that the DA didn't try to nail him with some form of negligence. Although I'm sure that teh way laws are structured in most southern states, it's not negliegent to saddle your wife with the sole care of 5 kids even when she's shown signs of depression and attempts at suicide.

that we can agree on

Yes we can. Unfortunately...we don't have a dirtbag law.

Sad part is there are women who are flocking to him out of sympathy.

He remarried!!

[Janice]

And he was still by her side at the trial too. He is an odd dude.