DNA not a match in JonBenet Ramsey murder case... whoops

[Pburgh]

Who paid for the flight?

[GalvestonDuck]

They said on GMA this morning that he paid for his ticket.

[Pburgh]

Well, if he wasn't arrested and he paid for his own flight. Drink up. It'll probably be his last.

[petal*pusher]

Anyone else happen to watch GMA today? They played a short tape from a woman with over 20 hours of phone calls from this guy. Hearing his voice inflections....and what he said was challenging to my morning!

I'm surprised his actions (phone calls, emails, etc.) went on for so many years without others alerting police of their concerns. Makes one wonder how many other individuals out there who think as he does......p

[GalvestonDuck]

I saw that too, Petal. It just keeps getting more bizarre.

Now I read that his mother tried to kill him when he was a baby:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/st ... 385&page=1

[Brent]

I saw that too, Petal. It just keeps getting more bizarre.

Now I read that his mother tried to kill him when he was a baby:
http://abcnews.go.com/US/LegalCenter/st ... 385&page=1

Maybe that explains his bizarre behavior. At least he gets it from somewhere.

[Janice]

I believe he still has to go to court for his porno charge which he ditched and left the country. He could be tied up with that for awhile and may have to serve some time on that count.

[Brent]

I believe he still has to go to court for his porno charge which he ditched and left the country. He could be tied up with that for awhile and may have to serve some time on that count.

He was just in a Los Angeles courtroom about 15 minutes ago. He waived extradition and will likely be in Colorado by tonight.

[LAwxrgal]

I think this guy's a kook who's cashing in on the Ramsey case. His mind is so sick and twisted he actually believes the lies he's telling and is inserting himself in his own deluded fantasy. He's clearly disturbed, in many ways.

And he was continually allowed to teach children? Never mind that it was in another country...but he continually taught children!

On the other hand, I hope he is the real killer so that Patsy and JonBenet Ramsey can FINALLY rest in peace.

Edit: There's this woman on Nancy Grace's show, Wendy somebody, who says Karr confessed to her 5 years ago in Northern California and she taped it supposedly... and she wanted to be paid to talk on camera....they played the supposed tape but Nancy Grace says it's never been verified that the voice on the tape is that of Karr...this thing gets stranger!

[GalvestonDuck]

He says some sick stuff on the tape, but the excerpts I've heard don't actually have him confessing. Apparently, they both had a fascination with Richard Allen Davis, the killer of Polly Klaas, so she was able to get him to open up and talk about things.


Warning: Graphic and disturbing---

"She was just so incredible in life and so unreal in death. She's just so alive."

"How would that person apologize for such an atrocity? Would that person say, 'You know, I strangled your daughter and it was so accidental and I was so afraid and I was so absolutely afraid that I later just, I was, she was breathing but she wasn't and I felt her pulse, but I thought she was dead. So I just, I just bashed her in the head.' I mean, can you say that to a mother or a father about this person that you're supposed to love so much?"

"I can see through the eyes of the person who stopped the life of the other little girl.* As easily as I can if I did it myself."

"I'm just rambling, I'm sorry. Just, you know, everything I say is just theory. It may or may not have every happened."

"Her house is absolutely just dripping with her sweet little tortured spirit, what a tortured spirit." (Hutchens replies, "Yeah, that's sad") "Beautiful, lovely little girl that I would love to have and do and do. That's the thing I almost want to apologize to her mother about is that, you know I'm sorry but I'm with your little girl right now. (inaudible) And there's not a damn thing you can do about it."

"I'm the most innocent person alive. Pristine, perfect, with a record that's without flaws."

"I have held little girls in just about every way you can imagine. Held them. But I've watched fathers in public hold those same little girls in the same every way that I have. I've kissed little girls on the mouth and they've most of the time initiated the kiss. But I've never done any of those things that are textbook considered, you know, better not do that."

"I could safely look you in the eye and pass a polygraph test telling you that I have never had sex with a little girl in my life."

After she tells him that she appreciates talking to him, he says:
"I just hope it doesn't come back and backfire and haunt me."

[gtalum]

Who paid for the flight?

That's a good question. I'm not sure where we can find that information. I have a suspicion that we, the taxpayers, did. If he gave up some info, it's a cheap method of interrogation, though.

[sunny]

hmmmmm, interesting.

[petal*pusher]

Amazing how many different "theories" are surfacing here! Last nights' Fox (I think it was Fox!) had 2 handwriting persons as guests. The guy highlighted several similiarities in the ransom letter and the yearbook written 20 years ago. CREEPY! It gave me shivers. The lady was sure it was different writers.

Also, why haven't any pictures of Karr been released of him at HOME during the murder?? For sure, this guy is not what any of us like to assume is "normal".......but I think he's much smarter than we think......there's a cunningness about him......p

[LAwxrgal]

Amazing how many different "theories" are surfacing here! Last nights' Fox (I think it was Fox!) had 2 handwriting persons as guests. The guy highlighted several similiarities in the ransom letter and the yearbook written 20 years ago. CREEPY! It gave me shivers. The lady was sure it was different writers.

Also, why haven't any pictures of Karr been released of him at HOME during the murder?? For sure, this guy is not what any of us like to assume is "normal".......but I think he's much smarter than we think......there's a cunningness about him......p

I never said he was dumb...I said he was a kook He's obviously not a dumb guy. He's a kook who's gotten himself so wrapped up in his own deluded fantasy that he actually believes the lie he's telling. He was obviously obsessed with JonBenet and the whole case, so he decided to insert himself in it.

As for this Tracey character, he's kind of shady himself. Producing multiple documentaries on the same subject? Something's up with that too.

Now there's a holdup with the extradition...they just said they won't let him go to Colorado today...I think they are just trying to delay to find out more information.

[Brent]

Now there's a holdup with the extradition...they just said they won't let him go to Colorado today...I think they're waiting for the California stuff charges.

I think it has more to do with getting more evidence in CO to charge him with murder. Once he arrives there, the clock is ticking(14 days) to charge him...

[LAwxrgal]

He's on suicide watch too...

[sunny]

Now there's a holdup with the extradition...they just said they won't let him go to Colorado today...I think they're waiting for the California stuff charges.

I think it has more to do with getting more evidence in CO to charge him with murder. Once he arrives there, the clock is ticking(14 days) to charge him...

I also read on the drudgereport.com that the original DNA evidence may be contaminated. This case is going to hell in a hand basket and quick it seems.

[rainstorm]

no evidence whatsoever mr karr is guilty. i agree lawxrgal. the question i have is why didnt this DA get the evidence before this "dog and pony" show?

[Lindaloo]

Someone said that he was in Georgia when JonBenet was killed. They have a photo of his children. If they were there, so was he, even though he is not in the photo.

[gtalum]

Someone said that he was in Georgia when JonBenet was killed. They have a photo of his children. If they were there, so was he, even though he is not in the photo.

I've heard this, and have so far reserved judgment on his involvement with JonBenet Ramsey. However, I really don't understand how a photo of his kids in Atlanta in a specific timeframe proves that he also was there in that same timeframe.