Sad news:The 17 year old girl is dead after wrong transplant

[rainstorm]

sorry, but they have no business taking money out of my pocket, and they have no business stealing hard to get organs from a citizen. the taxpayers are paying for this. i do not want every person worldwide to come here and force the us taxpayers to pay for their treatment. not only that, but she was going to die in mexico. an illegal alien has no business suing anyone in the unites states. the hospital screwed up, but she has no business, as an illegal, suing anyone here.

Well IMHO the hospital agreed to do the operation and made a tragic mistake and now should suffer the consequences. BTW, what if you or your family was is need of a life saving procedure that was only available elsewhere? Would you want to lose the life of your family member or your own due to the fact you weren't born there? :o America was founded on certain morals and values wasn't it? :o All our family members came here from somewhere else unless your an indian? So IYOP we should have just let her die??? Thats not what my morals and values tell me... Is that what yours tell you???? :o

do you think the govt should confiscate taxpayer money to pay for the medical expeses of every illegal in the world? do you imagine the trillions of dollars that would cost. she came here illegally. she was going to die in mexico anyway. she has no business suing anyone in the united states, none!! those were hard to come by organs that could have gone to a united states citizen.

[Derek Ortt]

They should have not been allowed into the USA due to the way that they entered. They should have applied for a visa, whihc in all liklihood, would have been approved. People are arrested for sumggling aliens into the USA, which is a felony. Now, does this mean that the hospital is off the hook? NO!!! The hospital staff should all be punished severely (in the good old days, they'd be tarred and feathered). However, I do not want precedent for people entering the USA illegally

[Rainband]

do you think the govt should confiscate taxpayer money to pay for the medical expeses of every illegal in the world? do you imagine the trillions of dollars that would cost. she came here illegally. she was going to die in mexico anyway. she has no business suing anyone in the united states, none!! those were hard to come by organs that could have gone to a united states citizen.

They need to pay for the mistake they made. Obviously they agreed to do the surgery :o . They are liable now for their mistake. I still didn't get a response to my question??? Just because she was from another country it's ok for her to have died. Yes if she stayed home she would have died but If they didn't mess up she might have lived! I don't agree with how she came to be here either. But I also don't agree with supporting every teenage girl that keeps having babies because she has nothing better to do. I pay more taxes supporting lazy americans that won't find a job than I do or will for the few foreign people that come here to take advantage of our superior medical care .Any comment on that??? I just think a human life is important, my morals and values speak for themselves...

[Rainband]

BTW read the WHOLE ARTICLE..here's an interesting section..Nita went on to set up a non-profit Foundation in Jesica's name. To fund the foundation and to pay for Jesica's transplant, they would build houses using mostly donated material and labor, sell the houses on the open market and use the money to pay for Jesica's heart transplant. The Foundation, named Jesica's Hope Chest, Inc. (a foundation for critically ill children) raised the necessary money for Jesica's Heart Transplant, and now helps several other North Carolina Children and their families cope with catastrophic illness in children. So what did you pay Rainstorm Not one damn dime!!!!!!!!!!!!

[chadtm80]

I JUST CAN NOT BELIEVE WHAT I AM READING HERE. I UNDERSTAND THE U.S.A. HAS A MAJOR PROBLEM WITH ILEGAL ALLIENS AND SUCH, BUT COME ON. I CERTAINTLY HOPE IF YOU WERE IN ANOTHER COUNTRY WITH YOUR CHILD RAINSTORM THAT THEY WOULD DO WHATEVER IT TOOK TO SAVE THERE LIFE. WE ARE ALL HUMAN, NO MATTER WHAT COUNTRY WE ARE FROM OR ARE IN.......

[mf_dolphin]

I can tell you I would do ANYTHING within my power to help one of my children that was going to die. And I mean anything! Personally I don't care that they came into the country the wrong way. Maybe they should have requested a VISA but they didn't, oh well... If the foundation memtioned above paid for the transplant then great! Obviously Medicare and Medicaid turned them down as they should of done.

Should the parents have a right to sue Duke University, you bet. The hospital and doctor screwed up by the numbers on this one and as a result the parents should sue and collect. There is just no excuse for what happened except carelessness.

Now as to the parents, they should not be allowed to remain in the country and should be deported for their actions.

Just my honest opinions...

[Rainband]

They have been through enough already don't you think? The foundation their daughter helped start will now help all children and for that resason I respectfully disagree... MHO

[mf_dolphin]

I you disagree that they should be deported then we'll just have to disagree. They entered the country illegally plain and simple. While I feel for their loss greatly, and as a parent that has lost a child I know what they're going through, that does not entitle them to stay in the country.

Unfortunately. it's the people who try and stay in this country and abide by the rules that all too aften get the short end of the stick.

[Rainband]

I never knew you lost a child. OMG, I feel for you. I can't imagine. I don't have children but can't imagine what I would do if something ever happened to my neice. I respect your opinion and I am happy you respect mine. I think the parents have suffered enough and thats why I said what I did. I also see your point too. You are right debate is healthy

[StormCrazyIowan]

I can't believe what I have just read. Yes, America has a problem with illegal immigrants, and we need every organ we can get. BUT MY GOD! To honestly say that the hospital shouldnt be sued is outrageous! They made a FATAL mistake! If she was American enough to be operated on, she is American enough to be sued over! She was just a child, she didn't deserve what happened to her! And about tax money, I would give MY tax money to save a life ANY DAY!!!! I am not trying to offend anyone's opinion, just thought I should voice my own.

[JQ Public]

glad to hear that others agree with me on this one.

[rainstorm]

I can't believe what I have just read. Yes, America has a problem with illegal immigrants, and we need every organ we can get. BUT MY GOD! To honestly say that the hospital shouldnt be sued is outrageous! They made a FATAL mistake! If she was American enough to be operated on, she is American enough to be sued over! She was just a child, she didn't deserve what happened to her! And about tax money, I would give MY tax money to save a life ANY DAY!!!! I am not trying to offend anyone's opinion, just thought I should voice my own.

there are billions of indigent people around the world dying now. sorry, i want my tax money to pay for legals and citizens. it is naive to think my taxes arent being used to pay for illegals expenses here, of course they are. an illegal alien should have no standing to sue a us citizen or corporation in the united states. she was going to die in mexico. she took a chance and came here and died anyway. the bill should be sent to the mexican govt. you are apparently advocating a 100% tax rate on all us citizens to pay for the worlds sick and dying.

[Derek Ortt]

though CRIMINAL responsibility for malpractice should be in order here. If it can be proven that the transplant caused the death, the negligent homicide charges should be filed. However, due to the fact that she was not a citizen (in fact, her and her entire family were illegals, no civil suit should be upheld by a federal magistrate

[Rainband]

there are billions of indigent people around the world dying now. sorry, i want my tax money to pay for legals and citizens. it is naive to think my taxes arent being used to pay for illegals expenses here, of course they are. an illegal alien should have no standing to sue a us citizen or corporation in the united states. she was going to die in mexico. she took a chance and came here and died anyway. the bill should be sent to the mexican govt. you are apparently advocating a 100% tax rate on all us citizens to pay for the worlds sick and dying.

OMG did u read her story, a foundation payed for her expenses. I always make a point to be nice and give people the benefit of the doubt. But an individual in need shouldn't be judged by what country they are from. The medical advances of this country should be shared with anyone who needs them. Your precious tax money has nothing to do with this. The very foundation the girl who died started will now help many children wether they be mexican or american. Examine your morals and values, although from where I am standing you seem to have none. I feel very sorry for you if you honestly believe what you are saying. THIS WAS AN INNOCENT CHILD!!!! FOR GOD SAKES.. Not somebody milking the system. Like I said before there are more Americans that are lazy and don't want to work that tap your precious tax money than there are foreign people taking advantage of our medical superiority. I can only say I feel very sorry for you.... and can't believe what I have read. Are you truly that heartless?? Again I ask what if you were in another country and your child was in need? Would you want them to be turned away because they were foreign? I really don't think so.

[rainstorm]

i think it is naive to think we arent paying for her treatment. again, no illegal should have standing in any us court to sue a us citizen or corporation. trust me, when the hospital is sued, the costs of that suit will be passed all the way down the line to everyone. it is awful she died, but it was her choice to come here illegally. compassion is great, but dont rea ch in my pocket to pay for your compassion. there are millions of people, no billions, worldwide who could benefit from medical treatment here. sorry, but we cant afford to treat them. i appluad medical professionals who go abroad and donate their services free of charge. by the way, check out the incredible budget deficit califonia now has. thanks illegals.
one thing i will say. i dont want your daughter or mine to be denied an organ transplant because that organ was given to an illegal alien

[mf_dolphin]

[quote="rainstorm an illegal alien should have no standing to sue a us citizen or corporation in the united states." [/quote]

The fact that they were illegal has no basis for determining whether or not they can sue in US courts. Anyone who has been wronged by a US citizen or corporation can file suit.

I can understand being frustrated because our tax money does go to support illegal immigrants but the real fact of the situation is that people would not be employed in this country without the support of American individuals and corporations who hire them willingly.

[rainstorm]

[quote="rainstorm" an illegal alien should have no standing to sue a us citizen or corporation in the united states.

The fact that they were illegal has no basis for determining whether or not they can sue in US courts. Anyone who has been wronged by a US citizen or corporation can file suit.

I can understand being frustrated because our tax money does go to support illegal immigrants but the real fact of the situation is that people would not be employed in this country without the support of American individuals and corporations who hire them willingly.[/quote]

i agree, illegals can sue, but i think they should not be allowed to sue. it is time our politicians get serious about securing our borders.

[Rainband]

I can see you are set in your way of thinking and will not attempt to try to explain to you why it makes no sense. Fact is this country gives so much aid to foreign nations it would blow your mind. America sets the example for the world to follow. If you want to live in a nation that turns away dying children then move to Iraq. We can't save them all but it our duty as the United States to try and save a few :o :o IMHO

[cycloneye]

Yes rainstorm agree with you that the all the borders the mexican and canadien and also the airports and ports must be secured but also they have the right to sue the hospital.

[rainstorm]

Yes rainstorm agree with you that the all the borders the mexican and canadien and also the airports and ports must be secured but also they have the right to sue the hospital.

her family should not be allowed to sue. also, bill had a guest on who was defending the family and even he said that there was no way that girl should have had a second transplant. those were wasted organs. he said once the fist trasplant was botched, it was ridiculous to give her a second transplant, since her survival chances were zero.