Legalizing "Wacky Tobaccy!"

j · #21 Postby j » Tue Jan 20, 2004 8:50 am

I'm for it!

I personally would find nothing wrong with Mr or Mrs pothead smoking them a little pot in the comfort of their own home.

As far as Junior goes, hes going to get it, whether its legal or not! Just like alchohol, it would have to be an age restrictive drug. I would much rather take the money out of the hands of Mexican and Columbian Drug Lords and put it legally into the US economy.

Now....having been down the road myself, I can speak with a voice of experiance. If there is a choice between a teen getting behind the wheel of car after having smoked a joint vs drinking alchohol all night, I would without a blink of an eye, choose marijuana.

Secondly, we have the whole crime, violence issue. Never have I known a stoned individual, to get violent after smoking pot. However, the alchohol high is a different story, I think all can agree with that.

Now all this being said....I do not smoke pot now, and have not for many many years. BUT....make it legal, and I think I might have me a stash for those special occasions, to share with my wife, in the privacy of our own home.

Amanzi · #22 Postby **Amanzi** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 11:55 am

chadtm80 wrote:I say go for it.. Legalize it.. I know pot heads and I know alcoholics.. Give me a pot head ANY day over an alcoholic

I know all addictive substances have a negative affect on people, but I have to agree with you Chad. Not that I would want it to be legal I think it is the lesser evil between the two.

Maybe its more acceptable to me coming from South Africa, where it is cheap as dirt and grows wild all over.... whenever there is construction, gaurenteed there will be a hundred little plants sprining up! Hey my father in law thought it would be really funny, but he decorated one as a christmas tree one year :roll:

#23 Postby **bfez1** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 12:33 pm

mf_dolphin wrote:Honestly I don't think pot is any better or worse than alcohol. The only difference is one is legal and the other isn't. I would vote for legalization.

Personally,I have never touched the stuff but from what I hear about it I tend to agree with Marshall. "Everybody" is using it anyway so why not just go ahead and make it legal.

#24 Postby **CaptinCrunch** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:56 pm

j wrote:I'm for it!

I personally would find nothing wrong with Mr or Mrs pothead smoking them a little pot in the comfort of their own home.

As far as Junior goes, hes going to get it, whether its legal or not! Just like alchohol, it would have to be an age restrictive drug. I would much rather take the money out of the hands of Mexican and Columbian Drug Lords and put it legally into the US economy.

Now....having been down the road myself, I can speak with a voice of experiance. If there is a choice between a teen getting behind the wheel of car after having smoked a joint vs drinking alchohol all night, I would without a blink of an eye, choose marijuana.

Secondly, we have the whole crime, violence issue. Never have I known a stoned individual, to get violent after smoking pot. However, the alchohol high is a different story, I think all can agree with that.

Now all this being said....I do not smoke pot now, and have not for many many years. BUT....make it legal, and I think I might have me a stash for those special occasions, to share with my wife, in the privacy of our own home.

I agree, and with that said, for a free country we sure are told what we can and can not do in the privacy of our own home!

Lindaloo · #25 Postby **Lindaloo** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 1:59 pm

It is lonely in here.

lol.

#26 Postby **Stephanie** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:22 pm

Actually Lindaloo, I'm surprised at the "turnout" so to speak of people saying that we should legalize it. Very interesting. I thought that I'd be the odd woman out - AGAIN. :lol:

GalvestonDuck · #27 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:25 pm

Like I said, I'm not really concerned right now one way or another.

I'm just surprised at the number of people I've learned about recently who use it (not just here on S2K, I mean outside the forum also). Talk about lonely! I was beginning to think I was the only one who didn't.

Lindaloo · #28 Postby **Lindaloo** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 2:42 pm

Stephanie wrote:Actually Lindaloo, I'm surprised at the "turnout" so to speak of people saying that we should legalize it. Very interesting. I thought that I'd be the odd woman out - AGAIN.

ROFLMBO!! Looks like it is my turn. :cry:

timNms · #29 Postby **timNms** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:27 pm

J, not every junior is going to want to "get it". I was once a "junior" and I chose NOT to "get it". Back in the dark ages, when i was in highschool, drugs were the "thing to do" or either go out on Friday night and get drunk. I never liked that idea. Maybe I was a weird kid, but I'm thankful that I never got hooked on any of it. I guess seeing my dad drunk and seeing how he acted turned me against alcohol. Thank God he realized what he was doing and turned his life over to God when he was 49. He only lived 10 yrs after that.

I never touched drugs, other than alcohol and that just didn't appeal to me. The only alcohol I've tried was beer and wine...and it wasn't what I thought it would be. I've maybe drank a total of 2 beers in my lifetime and maybe half a bottle of wine. Never been drunk and don't intend to get that way. I've always wanted to know what I was doing, when I was doing it, and whom I was doing it with LOL

Legal or not, I still think the best way to prevent the use of drugs is for PARENTS to TALK to their kids. Know what they do, where they go, who they hang out with, etc.

I was always quiet and shy and never hung out with "the crowd". I get a feeling that a lot of the alcohol and drug abuse problems stem from people wanting to "fit in". I may be wrong there, but that's how it appears to me.

timNms · #30 Postby **timNms** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 3:30 pm

blizzard wrote:
"Reminds me of a saying I heard once.
God made pot, man made booze....Who do you trust..
lol
Sorry, had to say it."

God also made the tree of life of which He told Adam and Eve NOT to partake of the fruit, yet they disobeyed Him.....See where that got them (and US)? LOL

j · #31 Postby j » Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:05 pm

May I be so bold to suggest that the direction a youth goes cannot always be pinned on the parents.
It is my beleif, that those who believe that, have either never had kids, or at the very least, have not raised kids through the age of 18 YET.

StormCrazyIowan · #32 Postby **StormCrazyIowan** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:17 pm

Hey, I can give this debate a valuable lesson. Where I am from....if you don't smoke you are the odd man out! :lol:

But have I ever? Nope!! I've seen it many times, some even in the same room, but I honestly feel that I am loopy enough- I don't need any help! LMAO And I do drink occasionally, and I do believe that the effects of that are worse than with smoking. Why haven't I smoked? Simple- it's illegal, and I am not risking my job for a night of fun!! Were it legal? Maybe I would try it, but who really knows, I've lasted this long and it doesn't bother me at all!

Do I think it should be legal? Sure, why not, I've also never seen a violent pothead, where I have seen violent alcoholics!! And none of the potheads I know have ever done or mentioned that they do any other drugs....so I highly doubt it's a gateway drug. That's my two cents...about all I can say, it's not a topic I care about either way! :lol:

timNms · #33 Postby **timNms** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:26 pm

j, I wasn't trying to imply that the parents can control the direction that their kids go. Parents can, however, have a big influence on what the kids choose to do with their lives. My wife and I have 2 kids...our daughter will be 18 in March. I trust my daughter to make the right choices because she has been taught right from wrong and knows what we expect of her. Also, she knows that regardless of what she does, we'll be here for her. We both know that she will make mistakes, just as we did. But we also know that she is not on, nor is she thinking about getting on drugs because we TALK to her. We've discussed the effects of drugs, alcohol, sex, etc with her. We've taught her not to lie to us (not saying that she won't), explaining that we will always find out the truth and it's better to be honest with us from the start.
An example: She had a good friend that she used to spend a lot of time with. They were practically sisters last year. One day during the past summer, her friend came over. They decided to go to her friend's house, so they said. Turns out they went to her friend's boyfriend's house. I thought it odd that Jessica wasn't gone long before her friend brought her back home. When questioned about it, she said the reason she came home was because instead of going to her friend's house, theyw ent to teh boyfriends house and when she walked in, she couldn't believe what she saw. She said there was all kinds of drug paraphinalia (man, I can't spell!) and drugs there. She said she immediately turned around and went out. Her friend followed her. Wanting to know what was wrong, her friend asked. Jessica had the intelligence to say "I want NO part of that." Her friend replied that she wasn't doing it either, but wanted to stay. Jessica again was smart enough to tell her friend that "If we were to stay and the police raided this place, do you realize we'd be just as guilty because we are HERE and so is the dope". Yeah, I was proud of the choice she made. Again, I say that I know she will make mistakes in her life. I know there will come a time when she is tempted to do things that she knows is wrong, but she will ALWAYS hear in the back of her mind, her mom and dad's voices reminding her of what is right and what is wrong.
Spare the rod, spoil the child...bring a child up the the way he should go and when he's old he won't depart from it...words of wisdom to live by. Of course, it doesn't say what they'll do between the "young and old". Kids will be kids and it's natural for them to want to try new and in their minds exciting things.
Next year will be a whole new ballgame for us as she will be going off to college with new challenges and new temptations. However, I still feel that she will make the right choices because of the relationship she has with us.
Again, I am not saying that all the blame is on the parents. Children do have a mind of their own. But if they are taught right from wrong and are taught to be individuals, not so readily influenced by peers, they do stand a better chance of making right choices.

j · #34 Postby j » Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:31 pm

timNms wrote:Parents can, however, have a big influence on what the kids choose to do with their lives.

No argument there.

timNms · #35 Postby **timNms** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:35 pm

j, didn't mean to write a novel there lol. how many kids do you have? if you have none, i got a couple i can loan you for a while....NEVER wait 8 yrs between kids. our daughter will be 18 in march and zach will be 10 in june....

j · #36 Postby j » Tue Jan 20, 2004 4:38 pm

21 - female
19 - female
17 - male

No thanks on the loan offer....we can see the light at the end of the tunnel and it looks very inviting.

#37 Postby **CaptinCrunch** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:05 pm

timNms wrote:j, didn't mean to write a novel there lol. how many kids do you have? if you have none, i got a couple i can loan you for a while....NEVER wait 8 yrs between kids. our daughter will be 18 in march and zach will be 10 in june....

I can go 1 better, Boy 12, Girl 11, Boy 10 1/2, Boy 15 months.

when I was 18 I had hair down to my a$$ and I played in a local Metal band. it was "SEX, DRUGS, WHISKY, ROCK & ROLL" but not in that order :lol:

Now let's see how this OLD man handles his "thinks they are adults" teens??

furluvcats · #38 Postby **furluvcats** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:17 pm

Marijuana : My ex husband was the type that bought his sack or two every Friday, woke up, got high, repeated this all day long, no matter where he was, or what he was doing. He was the type that let the kids go without their needs, to satisfy his addiction. All his friends got high, not one of them didn't. I never fit into his world, because I hated the marijuana and the lifestyle that went with it.

Heres my statistics with people who made getting high a way of life vs. people who didn't.

my ex...once a very successful businessman who had the world at his fingertips = made drug usage 1st in his life, lost his family, then his business, decided to sell drugs for an extra high, got busted, vehicles belong to the "SC Drug program", now lives at home with his parents at age 38, has no inclination to be in his childrens lives, or support them, does still get high on a daily basis though.

I go back and visit our old frends....they still live in same apartment, one of three still doesn't even own a car, doesn't want the responsibility, he's also 38. No families, dead end jobs that don't require drug testing, etc, still has money to get high, still gets high. ALL of these people are in the same rut they were in 10, 15 years ago. It saddens me.

I come back home, and back into my nest of friends, and I look at their successes, I see a judge, I see a police chief, I see a heart surgeon, I see a casino CM, I see bar owners, business tycoons, authors, artists, and what I don't see are any of these people lighting up a joint at parties, or in their homes, or behind closed doors. I see people I'm proud of, people that made lives without the influence of drugs, and people that don't smoke marijuana.

So many people make getting high a way of life. I hate the stuff because of all the people whom I've seen let their lives be taken over by this. I'm not saying there are not responsible smokers out there, I'm sure there are, but in my experience, I've never personally seen marijuana benefit anyone.

I'm for keeping it, and all drugs illegal.

#39 Postby **coriolis** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:26 pm

Furluvcats, I am with you in your experiences. I gave it up and I'm not going back.

JCT777 · #40 Postby **JCT777** » Tue Jan 20, 2004 5:26 pm

StormCrazyIowan wrote:Hey, I can give this debate a valuable lesson. Where I am from....if you don't smoke you are the odd man out! But have I ever? Nope!! I've seen it many times, some even in the same room, but I honestly feel that I am loopy enough- I don't need any help! LMAO And I do drink occasionally, and I do believe that the effects of that are worse than with smoking. Why haven't I smoked? Simple- it's illegal, and I am not risking my job for a night of fun!! Were it legal? Maybe I would try it, but who really knows, I've lasted this long and it doesn't bother me at all! Do I think it should be legal? Sure, why not, I've also never seen a violent pothead, where I have seen violent alcoholics!! And none of the potheads I know have ever done or mentioned that they do any other drugs....so I highly doubt it's a gateway drug.

Very good post, and I feel the same way. I was offered marijuana a number of times when I was in high school and the first few years after I graduated. I never accepted, but I do not really have a huge problem with those who do it.

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