MAJOR BLUNDER from white house. release natl guard documents

[Lindaloo]

Yeah Duck that is going to look good in Helens sig. LOL!!

[j]

if somebody is good with cut and paste, maybe we could get Helen's pic in here. Actually....she looks a little likke Helen anyway:

[Lindaloo]

A red X!! LOL! Yeah that looks like her. hehe

[j]

patience linda....you have NO patience!

[Lindaloo]

Well if you would get it right the first time. lol But yeah now that IT IS FIXED, looks an awful lot like Helen. RUN HELEN!! lol.

[rainstorm]

yall make good points, but there are several problems. rules are different this time. 60 days before an election the media holds all the power. also, bush has alienated his base. i agree kerry would be a diasater for the country, but bush better attack fast. it appears to me that bush is afraid to attack. rush makes several good points about repubs. they always try to be nice to dems and get along. one thing i admire about dems is that they are single-minded. they never compromise. they attack, attack, and attack, till they win. there is nothing bush can do that will make dems or liberals like him. when will he realize that? all i want is for bush to attack with the facts

p.s-garolfino is fat!!

[GalvestonDuck]

p.s-garolfino is fat!!

Actually, no she's not. She dresses frumpy sometimes, but she looks more like a heroin addict to me.

(Edit - deleted the pic. She's too ugly to look at!)

[streetsoldier]

A point no one is making is that, in attacking Bush's ANG service, Kerry is alienating EVERY man and woman who served in the various Guard units over the years...and they will remember that slight in November, IF the GOP gets the message out soon....and, I repeat, SOON.

[rainstorm]

A point no one is making is that, in attacking Bush's ANG service, Kerry is alienating EVERY man and woman who served in the various Guard units over the years...and they will remember that slight in November, IF the GOP gets the message out soon....and, I repeat, SOON.

i agree they have to fight back soon. it was funny hearing kerry say he didnt bring the issue up. he didnt have to . the media will do it for him

[BocaGirl]

This whole thing is so interesting to me. As I've told you all before. I'm not an ardent Bush fan - personally the guy hasn't done knocked my socks off and I DESPISE Cheney!!!! - but I'm not wild about Kerry either.

Still, I can't see what reason the press has to attack the President. And as for saying that dems do this, and repubs do that....... well, I just can't see the generalization as clearly as some of you can.

But maybe you Bush fans can answer this question for me. Why in the heck did President Bush open himself up to Meet the Press? Why? He stooped so low in appearing. The Office of President of the United States is bigger than that. In appearing, he demeaned himself and the Office.

You know, my mom gave some advice years ago that has kept me going many times. She said, "Nothing is older than yesterday's news." So love the President or hate him, guys it's only February!!!!! We have a whole lot of time until November. There's going to be lots of mud slung over the White House walls - both ways - between now and then and I'll wager to say that by the election the interview and President Bush's military service, true or false, will be long forgotten by all but a few diehards.

Just my 2 cents.

BocaGirl

[Stephanie]

Good points Boca!

[mf_dolphin]

I agree Bocagirl. These are just the opening shots lol

[Rainband]

I must be honest. I 100% agree Bush keeps us safe from the terrorists. Some things he does I don't agree with but I am don't know how to choose the lesser of two evils

[rainstorm]

This whole thing is so interesting to me. As I've told you all before. I'm not an ardent Bush fan - personally the guy hasn't done knocked my socks off and I DESPISE Cheney!!!! - but I'm not wild about Kerry either.

Still, I can't see what reason the press has to attack the President. And as for saying that dems do this, and repubs do that....... well, I just can't see the generalization as clearly as some of you can.

But maybe you Bush fans can answer this question for me. Why in the heck did President Bush open himself up to Meet the Press? Why? He stooped so low in appearing. The Office of President of the United States is bigger than that. In appearing, he demeaned himself and the Office.

You know, my mom gave some advice years ago that has kept me going many times. She said, "Nothing is older than yesterday's news." So love the President or hate him, guys it's only February!!!!! We have a whole lot of time until November. There's going to be lots of mud slung over the White House walls - both ways - between now and then and I'll wager to say that by the election the interview and President Bush's military service, true or false, will be long forgotten by all but a few diehards.

Just my 2 cents.

BocaGirl

you make some good points, but i disagree about the presdient appearing on meet the press. the president is the peoples employee. he owes it to us to answer questions, and yes, tough questions. sure, the media is liberal, but if i were president it would make me all the more eager to do battle with them. i want bush to be on more news shows.

here is one example, and i am a good debater.
when tim russert brought up bush's military record, and i was bush, this would have been my reply: "tim, why are you bringing up a subject that was brought up and answered since i ran for gov in 94? this was answered in 2000. have you forgotten? why dont you ask john kerry why he brought it up again, especially considering that in 92 he defended bill clintons lack of service. "

one other example: when russert repeated the dem position that bush's tax cuts increased the deficit this would have been my reply:
"tim, it is a fact that lowering taxes increases revenue to the govt. you and i both know that. do you or the dems have any facts that say otherwise?
and tim, if kerry is so worried about the deficit, can you show me his list of budget cuts he has proposed? i would love to discuss them."

[Rainband]

This whole thing is so interesting to me. As I've told you all before. I'm not an ardent Bush fan - personally the guy hasn't done knocked my socks off and I DESPISE Cheney!!!! - but I'm not wild about Kerry either.

Still, I can't see what reason the press has to attack the President. And as for saying that dems do this, and repubs do that....... well, I just can't see the generalization as clearly as some of you can.

But maybe you Bush fans can answer this question for me. Why in the heck did President Bush open himself up to Meet the Press? Why? He stooped so low in appearing. The Office of President of the United States is bigger than that. In appearing, he demeaned himself and the Office.

You know, my mom gave some advice years ago that has kept me going many times. She said, "Nothing is older than yesterday's news." So love the President or hate him, guys it's only February!!!!! We have a whole lot of time until November. There's going to be lots of mud slung over the White House walls - both ways - between now and then and I'll wager to say that by the election the interview and President Bush's military service, true or false, will be long forgotten by all but a few diehards.

Just my 2 cents.

BocaGirl

you make some good points, but i disagree about the presdient appearing on meet the press. the president is the peoples employee. he owes it to us to answer questions, and yes, tough questions. sure, the media is liberal, but if i were president it would make me all the more eager to do battle with them. i want bush to be on more news shows.

here is one example, and i am a good debater.
when tim russert brought up bush's military record, and i was bush, this would have been my reply: "tim, why are you bringing up a subject that was brought up and answered since i ran for gov in 94? this was answered in 2000. have you forgotten? why dont you ask john kerry why he brought it up again, especially considering that in 92 he defended bill clintons lack of service. "

one other example: when russert repeated the dem position that bush's tax cuts increased the deficit this would have been my reply:
"tim, it is a fact that lowering taxes increases revenue to the govt. you and i both know that. do you or the dems have any facts that say otherwise?
and tim, if kerry is so worried about the deficit, can you show me his list of budget cuts he has proposed? i would love to discuss them."

[sunnyday]

The only comment I'm going to make is in response to j who said that being AWOL from the National Guard was a way of life in the 60s. I don't know whether Bush was AWOL or not, so I won't comment on that. My point is even if it was a 'way of life', that doesn't make it right. AWOL is always wrong, isn't it?

[mf_dolphin]

Sunnyday, in my book is nearly lways wrong. There was a story a few months ago about a husband and wife who were both assigned to Iraq at the same time. She came back on leave and when faced with possibly losing her childern she cose to go AWOL.

As far as President Bush, his records and discharge seem to say he served his times honorably. I've seen nothing to disprove it. The rules are a lot more flexible with Guard and Reserve units especially so with pilots. They're the elite of the Air Force. It's always been that way and always will, especially with fighter pilots

[streetsoldier]

And Bush was a fighter pilot...not "choppers", as one person of my acquaintance maintains (the AF doesn't employ helicopters). His "mount" was one of the Delta (Dart or Dagger) series of all-weather interceptors; a supersonic weapons platform specifically designed to intercept and destroy Soviet incursions.

[ColdFront77]

I second that MF. I am going to keep Helen in mind Nov. 5th. Get that crow award ready.

             Election Day is Tuesday, November 2nd, this year.

[stormchazer]

Here is a link to President Bush's records, that is if facts really matter.

http://www.foxnews.com/projects/pdf/021004_bushmil.pdf