Raleigh K-9 Cop Injured In Accident Dies

[Lindaloo]

No one said I don't like animals, nor that I have any pets of my own... but no one cries and posts about it on forums when a stray dog gets run over. Why the double standard? Why should someone killing a police dog be punished anymore than somone hitting some random mutt?

Maybe you should get to know the animal lovers better here on this board before you try to start trouble like this.


Great post Dennis!! Some people just do not understand the meaning of the word loyalty nor police units.

[bahamaswx]

I guess none of you understood the philosophical element here. My mistake.

[Lindaloo]

Yeah we all understood what you were trying to do.

[george_r_1961]

Just wanna say that when i visit friends I sometimes pay more attention to the resident pets than I do to the humans..and ive always been like that. Many of the animals Ive met and befriended in my lifetime have more class than some people I know. And the expression "only a dog" irritates the hell out of me.

[bahamaswx]

Since you insist, I'll bring up my point again, until you do "understand".

If one human kills another (intentionally, without the other's consent, etc), it's murder. No matter how many ways you look at it, no matter who the two people were (I don't care if it's George Bush or a homeless guy), it's still murder, and to keep everything fair and just, all those guilty of murder should receive the same punishment--life in prison/execution.

Now, certainly there are laws against animal cruelty, but I see no where saying the dog was intentionally killed. Continuing, I'm pretty sure if I went to the states and unintenionally hit a stray dog and killed it, I wouldn't be punished. Not the nicest thing in the world, but I'm not going to go to be punished for it. On the other hand, if I unintentionally hit a homeless person, I would essentially be charged with manslaughter, just like if I unintentionally hit any other person. Why is this so? Because humans have been fighting for decades for equal rights. If I'm not going to be punished for hitting a stray dog, why should I be punished for hitting a K9 cop? Certainly all dogs should have equal rights, shouldn't they?

A human life is precious, and we all have just as much right to live as one another, thus the punishment for murdering two people, both on each extreme of the power/wealth spectrum, should be equal. By suggesting that this man should be punished for unintentionally hitting a K9 cop but not punishing others who accidentally hit stray dogs, you also imply that this dog somehow has a greater right to live than the others.

And you people ask for equal rights. What a joke. I guess it doesn't extend to animals.

[bahamaswx]

And the expression "only a dog" irritates the hell out of me.

Now you people are making up stuff. I never once said "only a dog" or promoted animal cruelty, I simply pointed out that if one man isn't punished for unintentionally killing one, stray dog, why then should another man be punished for unintentionally killing another K9 cop?

[Kiko]

Give us an update, Skywatch, if they find the car that hit him? Then we can hear the driver's side of the story.

Were there any eye witness accounts? A stray animal being hit on a parkway (at parkway speeds) can sometimes feel like hitting a pothole. The driver may not have even known it happened.

Was there room to pull over on the parkway and investigate that *thud*, or were there other distractions inside the car, like a radio blasting that the driver didn't hear it?

There are many factors here the report doesn't take into account.



Bahamas, check out my little Dude, he came from Puerto Rico in 1990 and has been with us ever since.

Island Dog Dude
http://geocities.com/kiko_in_pa/pets/dude/

[Lindaloo]

Since you insist, I'll bring up my point again, until you do "understand".

If one human kills another (intentionally, without the other's consent, etc), it's murder. No matter how many ways you look at it, no matter who the two people were (I don't care if it's George Bush or a homeless guy), it's still murder, and to keep everything fair and just, all those guilty of murder should receive the same punishment--life in prison/execution.

Now, certainly there are laws against animal cruelty, but I see no where saying the dog was intentionally killed. Continuing, I'm pretty sure if I went to the states and unintenionally hit a stray dog and killed it, I wouldn't be punished. Not the nicest thing in the world, but I'm not going to go to be punished for it. On the other hand, if I unintentionally hit a homeless person, I would essentially be charged with manslaughter, just like if I unintentionally hit any other person. Why is this so? Because humans have been fighting for decades for equal rights. If I'm not going to be punished for hitting a stray dog, why should I be punished for hitting a K9 cop? Certainly all dogs should have equal rights, shouldn't they?

A human life is precious, and we all have just as much right to live as one another, thus the punishment for murdering two people, both on each extreme of the power/wealth spectrum, should be equal. By suggesting that this man should be punished for unintentionally hitting a K9 cop but not punishing others who accidentally hit stray dogs, you also imply that this dog somehow has a greater right to live than the others.

And you people ask for equal rights. What a joke. I guess it doesn't extend to animals.

You are too politically correct. Maybe you should run for office down on the islands. Because all I hear is Blah blah blah blah.

[Skywatch_NC]

Give us an update, Skywatch, if they find the car that hit him? Then we can hear the driver's side of the story.

Were there any eye witness accounts? A stray animal being hit on a parkway (at parkway speeds) can sometimes feel like hitting a pothole. The driver may not have even known it happened.

Was there room to pull over on the parkway and investigate that *thud*, or were there other distractions inside the car, like a radio blasting that the driver didn't hear it?

There are many factors here the report doesn't take into account.



Bahamas, check out my little Dude, he came from Puerto Rico in 1990 and has been with us ever since.

Island Dog Dude
http://geocities.com/kiko_in_pa/pets/dude/

I checked WRAL and there hasn't been an update since late yesterday morning or so. Guess the driver is probably apprehensive about coming forward given the consequences...

One time my family traveled through Indiana to visit relatives and a German Shepherd darted out in front of us just a few feet and my Dad didn't have time to react..and YES we were following the speed limit. We stopped and went to the owners who were home and humbly apologized for what happened...both the owners and us were in tears.
Given the size of a typical German Shepherd...it's NOT like hitting a pot hole!

Kiko, in my earlier post I reacted the way I did because not only do I have compassion for humans...but also for animals.

Eric

[therock1811]

Killing a dog is killing a dog.

Is it any less wrong to kill a homeless person than a successful business man?

I had ONE NERVE LEFT and YOU, JUST GOT ON IT

FYI...I am, along with my WIFE, are K9 Reserve Police Officers "AND" K9 Search and Rescue members, and your TOTAL lack of RESPECT for OUR PARTNERS is UNCALLED for and UNWARRENTED.."GOD HELP YOU!" Our "DOGS" ARE our PARTNERS, REGARDLESS of thier FUR I would take my "K9 Partners" ANY given DAY of the WEEK over a HUMAN!

Dennis

AMEN to THAT! I may not be a policeman (heck, I've not even started college yet) but I darn sure respect police dogs AND their human partners!

[Kiko]

There are many factors here the report doesn't take into account.

Guess the driver is probably apprehensive about coming forward given the consequences...

First off, according to the title of this thread, the dog was NOT killed on impact, but died afterward. Perhaps it was hit and ran off?

So maybe, just maybe... it wasn't that hard of an impact? Maybe the car that hit it was a humvee and made to take some hard knocks? Ask any one of those police you so admire and see how many accidents happen the same way twice.

If the anger displayed here on a message board is any indication, this dog killer is guilty until proven innocent and should throw him/herself on the mercy of the court for protection, because you're starting to sound like a lynching mob to me.

Get the facts people, then get to making judgements.

Guilty until proven innocent? Can anyone say 'To Kill A Mockingbird'?

[GalvestonDuck]

Killing a dog is killing a dog.

Is it any less wrong to kill a homeless person than a successful business man?

It could be. After all, for some odd reason, it's more wrong to kill a gay person or a black person than it is to kill a straight one or a white one.

[GalvestonDuck]

Kiko, are you judging us to be judgmental?

[Kiko]

I didn't see you expressing any outlash there, Duck, so don't count yourself in on the mob mentality I see brewing.

Unless you care to join them without all of the facts, or even an investigation into the facts.

Making a judgement? No, I'm making a logical inference from the attitudes that have been displayed and are here for all to read.

It's ok to be show anger for the loss of something dear, that's quite natural and can be expected. But intelligence dictates that we be cautious in our judgements, lest we lose empathy towards what may turn out to be the innocent.

Bahamas tried to point this out, but no one wants to understand the value of unique situations.

Thus, the mob gathers--scenting blood.

[Lindaloo]

Why even come here to turn this thread into ANOTHER controversy KIKO AND BAHAMASWX!!?? Stay on topic!! If you do not know what the topic is RE-READ IT! Thanks!

[Lindaloo]

I didn't see you expressing any outlash there, Duck, so don't count yourself in on the mob mentality I see brewing.

Unless you care to join them without all of the facts, or even an investigation into the facts.

Making a judgement? No, I'm making a logical inference from the attitudes that have been displayed and are here for all to read.

It's ok to be show anger for the loss of something dear, that's quite natural and can be expected. But intelligence dictates that we be cautious in our judgements, lest we lose empathy towards what may turn out to be the innocent.

Bahamas tried to point this out, but no one wants to understand the value of unique situations.

Thus, the mob gathers--scenting blood.

The fact is you are out of line with this post. Stay on Topic.

[GalvestonDuck]

Agreed.

Not everything in the off-topic thread has to be turned into a debate. Furthermore, sometimes emotional release of feelings is healthy (boy, don't I sound like a bleeding heart there?). So if anger (or other emotions) are natural and to be expected, let 'em roll. Why stifle it? Because "intelligence dictates" it?

[Lindaloo]

Agreed.

Not everything in the off-topic thread has to be turned into a debate. Furthermore, sometimes emotional release of feelings is healthy (boy, don't I sound like a bleeding heart there?). So if anger (or other emotions) are natural and to be expected, let 'em roll. Why stifle it? Because "intelligence dictates" it?

Kiko just likes to stir the pot wherever she can.

[Guest]

And to be honest, I am quite sick of her and her poor attitude. She does nothing but bring controversy to this board. The majority of us come to this board to be friendly, relax, chit-chat, or whatever. I'm tired of all the interruptions that she brings to this board.
...Jennifer...

[bahamaswx]

What's wrong with opposition? If she has opposing views, why can't she voice them? You all have a right to post your views, and you often do. Just because hers don't agree with the norm around here, you say she has a "poor attitude"?

Don't label me a "dog hater".