Iran Nuclear Standoff

#201 Postby **cycloneye** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:22 pm

WASHINGTON (Reuters) -- President Bush wants $75 million to try to spur democracy in its adversary Iran, expanding a program that skeptics say can have little effect in the Islamic republic.

"The United States will actively confront the aggressive policies of the Iranian regime. At the same time, we will work to support the aspirations of the Iranian people for freedom and democracy in their country," Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice told a congressional budget hearing.

Rice said the funds would be used to broadcast U.S. radio and television programs into Iran and pay for Iranians to study in America. She requested the money in a supplemental budget request for fiscal year 2006.

Is this will work is the big question? I say it will be very difficult to change that countrys regime but never say never as surprises can occur.

#202 Postby **alicia-w** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 3:41 pm

Yeah, sure, cut public broadcasting funds here to broadcast propaganda in a country that hates us.

MiamiensisWx · #203 Postby **MiamiensisWx** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:17 pm

Not trying to be political, but I truly think trying to spread democracy in Iran is really a no-brainer when you consider the situation. The answer to spreading democracy in Iran is no, at the very least not now. Who agrees?

#204 Postby **cycloneye** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 5:52 am

Updated: 4:04 a.m. ET Feb. 16, 2006
PARIS - French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy said on Thursday Iran was pursuing a clandestine military nuclear program.

“No civilian nuclear program can explain the Iranian nuclear program. So it is a clandestine Iranian military nuclear program,” Douste-Blazy told France 2 television.

“The international community has sent a very firm message by saying to the Iranians: ‘Come back to reason. Suspend all nuclear activity and the enrichment of uranium and the conversion of uranium,”’ he added.

The time will come when something has to be done with this Iran Nuclear standoff or it's resolved by diplomatic means or the military opition becomes a reality.

JTD · #205 Postby **JTD** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:51 pm

cycloneye wrote:
Updated: 4:04 a.m. ET Feb. 16, 2006
PARIS - French Foreign Minister Philippe Douste-Blazy said on Thursday Iran was pursuing a clandestine military nuclear program.

“No civilian nuclear program can explain the Iranian nuclear program. So it is a clandestine Iranian military nuclear program,” Douste-Blazy told France 2 television.

“The international community has sent a very firm message by saying to the Iranians: ‘Come back to reason. Suspend all nuclear activity and the enrichment of uranium and the conversion of uranium,”’ he added.

The time will come when something has to be done with this Iran Nuclear standoff or it's resolved by diplomatic means or the military opition becomes a reality.

This is the most heartening thing about the crisis. The international community is firmly against allowing Iran nuclear weapons.

#206 Postby **Pburgh** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:14 pm

Gotta love how those French poke they're nose in and we end up covering their a$$. They really can talk a good game.

#207 Postby **cycloneye** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:48 pm

Russia Warns U.S. Against Striking Iran
Feb 16 11:29 AM US/Eastern
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By VLADIMIR ISACHENKOV
Associated Press Writer

MOSCOW

Russia's top military chief on Thursday warned the United States against launching a military strike against Iran and a top diplomat voiced hope that close cooperation with China could help resolve the Tehran nuclear crisis.

With tension mounting over Iran's nuclear programs, Gen. Yuri Baluyevsky, the chief of Russia's general staff, warned the United States against attacking Iran.

"A military scenario can't be ruled out," Baluyevsky was quoted as saying by Russian news agencies.

He said that while Iran's military potential cannot compare to the United States', "it is hard to predict how the Muslim world will respond to the use of force against Iran."

"This may stir the whole world, and it is crucial to prevent anything like that," Baluyevsky was quoted as saying.

Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Alekseyev, meanwhile, said that cooperation with China could help push Iran toward accepting Moscow's offer to host Iran's uranium enrichment program.

The Russian proposal has become a centerpiece of international efforts to defuse tensions over Tehran's nuclear ambitions.

"We are counting on the continuation of close contacts with our Chinese colleagues and other interested countries," Alekseyev was quoted as saying by the Interfax news agency. He added, however, that the Iranian nuclear issue recently had become "sharper," and "it is too early to assess the effectiveness of our joint steps to resolve it."

Will Russia save Iran from a military confrontation?

#208 Postby **cycloneye** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 7:26 am

Report: Iran wants 20 nuclear power plants

Febuary 20 AP -- An Iranian official said that country plans to construct 20 nuclear power plants.

The Fars News Agency reported Mohammad Hosein Farhangi, a member of the Islamic Consultative Assembly, said the next Iranian state budget bill orders regulation of the plan, study and construction of the 20 plants.

Farhangi made the announcement at a convention of "resistance units" commanders, the agency said.

"The country needs this technology and energy in various fields, including the medical and agricultural industries as well as for the accomplishment of many other projects," the official said.

However, he said, "the West intends to impede the Islamic Iran in particular, and the world of Islam in general, from making scientific progress and development so that it could continue with its arrogant superiority over the nations and governments."

Look what they intend to build if they are leaved alone and no pressure is made to them. :eek:

canegrl04 · #209 Postby **canegrl04** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:23 pm

I'm sorry,but I don't see how Iran needs 20 nuke plants .Something is definitely wrong. Could be what they really want is to make a dozen nuke warheads :eek:

#210 Postby **SouthFloridawx** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:27 pm

interesting how this is all unfolding. They realize they are on a the brink of war but, in order to have any power in the world maybe they are building these things so that they can become a superpower someday...

f5 · #211 Postby f5 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 4:56 pm

all of this is heading towards the gog/magog war described in Eziekiel 38&39 the arab nations are going to align with russia which Ezekiel calls the commander is going to form a mass army of angry muslim that will come and attack Israel but in the end 82% of that army will be supernaturally crushed

#212 Postby **SouthFloridawx** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:02 pm

f5 wrote:all of this is heading towards the gog/magog war described in Eziekiel 38&39 the arab nations are going to align with russia which Ezekiel calls the commander is going to form a mass army of angry muslim that will come and attack Israel but in the end 82% of that army will be supernaturally crushed

hmmm that was eirie

#213 Postby **SouthFloridawx** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:02 pm

f5 wrote:all of this is heading towards the gog/magog war described in Eziekiel 38&39 the arab nations are going to align with russia which Ezekiel calls the commander is going to form a mass army of angry muslim that will come and attack Israel but in the end 82% of that army will be supernaturally crushed

do you have a link?

f5 · #214 Postby f5 » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:09 pm

southfloridawx2005 wrote:
f5 wrote:all of this is heading towards the gog/magog war described in Eziekiel 38&39 the arab nations are going to align with russia which Ezekiel calls the commander is going to form a mass army of angry muslim that will come and attack Israel but in the end 82% of that army will be supernaturally crushed

do you have a link?

my best sugessition to you is to buy John Hagee's book Jerusalem Countdown he used scripture to lay down this war better than what i can.he said on many occasions that Israeli intelligence told him Iran will reach the point of know return by mid April .he also said that the CIA is trying to picture a rosy scenario by saying Iran is 10 yrs away.Israel is known to have the best world intelligence.they also said Saddam's WMD went to syria with a parade of 45 trucks in which the rest of the world doesn't know about

#215 Postby **brunota2003** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:16 pm

oh I have known that Saddam's WMD went to Syria and probably Iran to, about a month or so before we invaded...

#216 Postby **feederband** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:16 pm

f5 wrote:
southfloridawx2005 wrote:
f5 wrote:all of this is heading towards the gog/magog war described in Eziekiel 38&39 the arab nations are going to align with russia which Ezekiel calls the commander is going to form a mass army of angry muslim that will come and attack Israel but in the end 82% of that army will be supernaturally crushed

do you have a link?

my best sugessition to you is to buy John Hagee's book Jerusalem Countdown he used scripture to lay down this war better than what i can.he said on many occasions that Israeli intelligence told him Iran will reach the point of know return by mid April .he also said that the CIA is trying to picture a rosy scenario by saying Iran is 10 yrs away.Israel is known to have the best world intelligence.they also said Saddam's WMD went to syria with a parade of 45 trucks in which the rest of the world doesn't know about

Please..please lets not go into this...

#217 Postby **SouthFloridawx** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 5:22 pm

feederband wrote:
f5 wrote:
southfloridawx2005 wrote:
f5 wrote:all of this is heading towards the gog/magog war described in Eziekiel 38&39 the arab nations are going to align with russia which Ezekiel calls the commander is going to form a mass army of angry muslim that will come and attack Israel but in the end 82% of that army will be supernaturally crushed

do you have a link?

my best sugessition to you is to buy John Hagee's book Jerusalem Countdown he used scripture to lay down this war better than what i can.he said on many occasions that Israeli intelligence told him Iran will reach the point of know return by mid April .he also said that the CIA is trying to picture a rosy scenario by saying Iran is 10 yrs away.Israel is known to have the best world intelligence.they also said Saddam's WMD went to syria with a parade of 45 trucks in which the rest of the world doesn't know about

Please..please lets not go into this...

don't worry we won't

#218 Postby **coriolis** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:09 pm

If they are determined to build a bomb, we are not going to stop them without bankrupting ourselves, failing spectacularly, and having the whole world turn against us.

These people don't think like we do. All they understand is strength. Negotiation is for the weaker party. We are going to make fools of ourselves threatening, then concilliating over and over. We should just let them know that if they try to use their bomb, there will be no Iran left. That goes for N.Korea too.

We are engaged in a historic battle of west vs. east. there's no compromise. We might have to take a hit. Once that happens, we have all the justification to wipe them off the map.

Instead of spending all that money on invading Iran, it should be spent here, improving our security.

Deterrence worked for 50 years against the USSR. In 50 years we could do a lot to corrupt thier youth.

#219 Postby **cycloneye** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:36 pm

Well said Ed,great post.

Derek Ortt · #220 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:10 pm

do not see the Israel connection that Ezekiel described. I believe that Israel is in the future, a Christian Israel. Therefore, Ezekiels passage, iMO, does not apply

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