North Korea Nuclear Standoff

[cycloneye]

http://asia.news.yahoo.com/060707/3/2mty8.html

That is very interesting to know now about where that long range missile was going to if it had worked.So this was no test but an attack to the U.S in my view that failed.

[Scorpion]

Pearl Harbor part 2 attempt?

[skysummit]

Yea...if it was a test, they have the ENTIRE Pacific Ocean to aim at....yet they aim at a small group of islands??? I feel the same way...this was an attack on the United States. I was watching CNN earlier and they're talking about another long range missle that's just about finished on the assembly lines. This one could be another threat in the next few days.

Also...there are at least 3 short range missles already on the launch pad that could reach Japan and be fired at a moments notice.

[SouthFloridawx]

[Regit]

Yea...if it was a test, they have the ENTIRE Pacific Ocean to aim at....yet they aim at a small group of islands??? I feel the same way...this was an attack on the United States. I was watching CNN earlier and they're talking about another long range missle that's just about finished on the assembly lines. This one could be another threat in the next few days.

Also...there are at least 3 short range missles already on the launch pad that could reach Japan and be fired at a moments notice.

Yeah, they use their only missle to attack us. I think people are assuming that just because Kim Jong Il is crazy that he's also stupid. It wouldn't have actually hit Hawaii (unless by accident). It would just have been to irritate us. We would NOT have attacked them in response.

[brunota2003]

if you think about it...the missle would not of made it to Hawaii...it would of been shot down after it passed Japan...it wouldnt of even made it close to Midway Island...

[Audrey2Katrina]

Anyone knowing me knows that I'm by no means an apologist for nutcases like this idiot running the country of N. Korea; but I think this is extremely dangerous alarmism.

I don't believe for a MINUTE, that North Korea would be stupid enough to actually launch an attack against the United States---that would be suicidal. And yes, even China with all its teeming billions would think long and hard before such a provocation as, unlike the US, almost 95% of their "population" is along a stretch of land far smaller than the United States AND their technology/weaponry is nowhere near that of the US, and they know it. I'm certainly not going to be so hawkish as to suggest that we do anything unnecessarily provocative with them; as I feel if left to their own devices, China will eventually go capitalist as a result of simple survival. They are a very intelligent people, and while their leadership leaves much to be desired--I feel that a social form of "natural selection" will eventually turn China into the right direction--way too many people to keep under the "thumb" of oppression. North Korea is another story... they ARE led by a complete dictatorial NUT.
I think when all the dust settles, it will be found out that this was nothing more than another case of this idiot's sabre rattling, sort of like he did when he fired one across the Sea of Japan, and actually across the main Japanese island of Honshu. The man is a NUT, and he's just aggravated that he fell out of the limelight with all the Iranian news of late; so to be "relevant" again, he fires (more accurately MISfires) a missile that was aimed at the ocean somewhere NEAR Hawaii.
All that notwithstanding, I DO think this canNOT be overlooked, or brushed under the rug, like so much of this PC diplomatic nonsense in the past. It's high-time we TOLD this moron that if he does this again, it WILL be shot down, and all his talk of such a thing being labelled an "act of war"... well, Hell's Bells, what would they call it if we "test-fired" a missile that landed in the Sea of Japan near N. Korea?... ummm I think it's time we start playing HARDBALL with this jerk, or else we will lose what little credibility we still maintain with the rest of the world who are more and more beginning to view the US as a paper-tiger!

A2K

[Regit]

That's assuming we actually got it. The missle defense system only works 20 percent of the time. Most of the "successful" hits during tests have been on rockets that had tracking devices.

[Cyclenall]

How come I'm not hearing this new news on CNN? I mean the TV channel.

[bigmoney755]

if you think about it...the missle would not of made it to Hawaii...it would of been shot down after it passed Japan...it wouldnt of even made it close to Midway Island...

I would not put my faith in the US's surface to air missles. We do not know if we could successfully shoot down a T-2 or any other missle fired by North Korea.

[brunota2003]

we dont know everything that the military has...they could say 20% when its really 80% or so...they do keep things secret...

[feederband]

Yea...if it was a test, they have the ENTIRE Pacific Ocean to aim at....yet they aim at a small group of islands??? I feel the same way...this was an attack on the United States. I was watching CNN earlier and they're talking about another long range missle that's just about finished on the assembly lines. This one could be another threat in the next few days.

Also...there are at least 3 short range missles already on the launch pad that could reach Japan and be fired at a moments notice.

Yeah, they use their only missle to attack us. I think people are assuming that just because Kim Jong Il is crazy that he's also stupid. It wouldn't have actually hit Hawaii (unless by accident). It would just have been to irritate us. We would NOT have attacked them in response.

Even by accident if it hit Hawaii WE WOULD respond with a small air bombardment using aircraft or cruise missiles or both...

[stormtruth]

If you take out Kim Jong then what? North Korea soon becomes another great outsourcing spot and more manufacturing and computer jobs leave the US with the happy approval of our government and giant multinational corporations.

Calling this an attack on the U.S. is a big stretch. If you aim fireworks at North Korea it doesn't mean you have a likelihood of hitting it. If you want to go to war with every nation pointing something at us we will have lots of battles we to fight and we are already struggling with the wars we are currently engaged in. So why start another unless you love suffering? Eager to see more things blow up on tv are we? Oh please let us have another Shock and Awe oh please. Crazy warmongers.

[Regit]

we dont know everything that the military has...they could say 20% when its really 80% or so...they do keep things secret...

It's possible, though they would gain nothing from keeping it secret. And certainly nothing to gain by lying about the figure with a false one. The 20% figure is from the Pentagon's chief weapons evaluator, so I'll take his word for it.

[Audrey2Katrina]

we are already struggling with the wars we are currently engaged in.

This is a misleading statement. Were we as barbaric as some of our "opponents" these "wars" would be over in minutes--that would be it! Problem is, when you fight a PC "war" where too many decisions are being made by poll-driven ..ummm individuals, then you do "struggle"... but it's not because of any inadequacey of the finest military on the planet, and you can put your money on that!

Crazy warmongers?

Not generalizing, are we?... could equally say...

crazy anachronistic (fill in your own term for opposing view!)

A2K

[Derek Ortt]

to say we would not beat china is rediculous.

We would annihalate their troops from the sky. Why are so many of my fellow Americans so defeatist?

[stormtruth]

we are already struggling with the wars we are currently engaged in.

This is a misleading statement. Were we as barbaric as some of our "opponents" these "wars" would be over in minutes--that would be it! Problem is, when you fight a PC "war" where too many decisions are being made by poll-driven ..ummm individuals, then you do "struggle"... but it's not because of any inadequacey of the finest military on the planet, and you can put your money on that!

It isn't misleading at all. There were so many warnings that this is exactly what was going to happen if we went into Iraq. Nothing the government promised ever came true. And so we are stuck with the mess in Iraq. And also Afghanistan which is now turning back into a serious War because of the Iraq decision and distraction from Afghanistan. And now many of you seem eager to start more Wars? We are already broke as it is.

[Derek Ortt]

yes, we would lose tens of thousands if china were to enter any second Korean War.

But China would suffer losses much higher. People die in war, and tens of thosuands for a victory is a trade off I would make EVERY TIME, even if I had to be one to die

[Regit]

yes, we would lose tens of thousands if china were to enter any second Korean War.

But China would suffer losses much higher. People die in war, and tens of thosuands for a victory is a trade off I would make EVERY TIME, even if I had to be one to die

You're assuming China takes Korea's side. They are undergoing transition to a capitalist economy and as they do so, their ties with communist countries are becoming weaker, as is their ability to tell the US to go leap off the horizon. They're not especially pleased by NK's latest test.

[GalvestonDuck]

This thread is so close to being locked....

Keep the politics and partisan crap outta here.