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#281 Postby Janice » Sat Jul 15, 2006 6:31 am

Civilians hit in Mideast violence

• Israel, Hezbollah attack new areas
• Sources: 15 die in airstrike on Lebanon minibus
• Ambulances rush to Sea of Galilee town
• Israeli sailor killed, 3 missing after warship hit
• Hezbollah leader ready for "open war" with Israel

http://www.cnn.com/
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#282 Postby wx247 » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:18 am

MSNBC is reporting this morning that 2 Israeli sailers have been killed now and 2 still remain missing.
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#283 Postby Janice » Sat Jul 15, 2006 7:32 am

Wow, did they find the two bodies. Were they killed as a result of the blast or captured and killed?
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#284 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:29 am


Updated: 9:26 a.m. ET July 15, 2006

Breaking News:AP

A senior Israeli intelligence official said Iranian troops helped Hezbollah fire a missile that damaged an Israeli warship off the Lebanese coast Friday night.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information, said about 100 Iranian soldiers are in Lebanon and helped fire the Iranian-made, radar-guided C-102 at the ship that killed one and left three missing.



Another evidence that Iran has it's hands in this.
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#285 Postby canegrl04 » Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:31 am

Al Jazeera is claiming Israel is bombing the Syrian border.I have an awful feeling that this will sprout into ww3 very quickly.Its inevitable that Syria and Iran will be drawn in.israel has no choice :(
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#286 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:16 am

http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/07/14/ ... index.html

CajunMama,at link you can see the steps the U.S goverment is taking to start a proccess to evacuate Lebanon.I can tell you it will not be an easy thing if they decide to evacuate because it's dangerous to go outside in the open streets.
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#287 Postby canegrl04 » Sat Jul 15, 2006 9:28 am

Ynet news is reporting Israel is giving Syria a 72 hour ultimatum:call off hezbollah,release the kidnapped soldiers. Things could really get nasty by next week :( http://www.drudgereport.com
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#288 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:53 am

It appears to be a general war against Lebanon itself now as CNN has just reported that Israel has started to bomb the CHRISTIAN parts of Lebanon
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#289 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 15, 2006 10:58 am

Israel points towards Iran

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Now this may spread into a much wider conflict.Will finnaly the U.S and Israel strike those Iran Nuclear Plants?
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#290 Postby Regit » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:00 am

kevin wrote:World War III didn't start when the North Koreans launched test missiles.

World War III won't start when Israel occupies Lebanon and bombs Damascus.

The war won't expand to Egypt and Jordan, and more than likely Iran won't do anything but increase funding and support for Hezbollah.

All that may happen is the collapse of Arab dictatorships in Egypt and Saudi Arabia. But I find that doubtful.

This isn't the first time the Israelis and Arabs have clashed. There is nothing even close to the severity of former times. There isn't a Soviet Union to mess with things more. There are countries that have peace treaties with Israel.

Its dangerous but not to the point where I'm worried about full scale war.


I mostly agree with everything you say. I just don't see how this goes beyond a regional war. It would take a stupid act on the scale of Japan attacking Pearl Harbor. Such an event wouldn't happen until after a time that this war grew so widespread that Iran is involved. But if Iran becomes involved (which I don't think they will), Israel would launch a shock-and-awe-type campaign against Iran's major weapons sites and their ability to attack US interests would be severly handicapped.

The ONLY way this war goes global is for a NATO country to be attacked. Why would any country in the region do that?

I think people need to take a breath. Look at this map of World War II countries. Do any of you honestly believe this missle-throwing competition is going to grow to a scale that large?

Countries involved in WW2
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#291 Postby stormtruth » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:06 am

Derek Ortt wrote:It appears to be a general war against Lebanon itself now as CNN has just reported that Israel has started to bomb the CHRISTIAN parts of Lebanon


I saw that. Plus the dumb impatient strikes by Isreal have left 25,000 americans trapped in Lebanon. Couldn't they have held off on bombing the airport and let americans leave?
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#292 Postby feederband » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:15 am

stormtruth wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:It appears to be a general war against Lebanon itself now as CNN has just reported that Israel has started to bomb the CHRISTIAN parts of Lebanon


I saw that. Plus the dumb impatient strikes by Isreal have left 25,000 americans trapped in Lebanon. Couldn't they have held off on bombing the airport and let americans leave?


You got to think this is a war..Air Fields are the first things you want to take out...
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#293 Postby Derek Ortt » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:15 am

are you suggesting that Israel should not have responded to the acts of war committed against them? IMO, that would have been dumb
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#294 Postby stormtruth » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:21 am

Derek Ortt wrote:are you suggesting that Israel should not have responded to the acts of war committed against them? IMO, that would have been dumb


And no matter how many Americans end up being killed in Lebanon it is worth it? I'm just saying they could have been more patient. Maybe those Americans in Lebanon were just crying on tv because they enjoy the bombs so much :roll: Plus, the shiites in Iraq have already had marches and are planning strikes on our troops as a result of Isreal's action. And part of the reason Iran has become stronger is because when we invaded Iraq we took their biggest enemy off the table and freed the shias. Just something to think about as we watch gas prices soar here at home.
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#295 Postby Regit » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:26 am

stormtruth wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:are you suggesting that Israel should not have responded to the acts of war committed against them? IMO, that would have been dumb


And no matter how many Americans end up being killed in Lebanon it is worth it? I'm just saying they could have been more patient. Maybe those Americans in Lebanon were just crying on tv because they enjoy the bombs so much :roll: Plus, the shiites in Iraq have already had marches and are planning strikes on our troops as a result of Isreal's action. And part of the reason Iran has become stronger is because when we invaded Iraq we took their biggest enemy off the table and freed the shias. Just something to think about as we watch gas prices soar here at home.



Well there aren't just Americans in Lebanon. I doubt that we searched Iraq before we invaded to make sure all foreigners were gone. For Israel to say, "Hey all foreigners, please leave. You have one week to do so." would be stupid. All that would do is allow Hezbollah a week's worth of free hits.
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#296 Postby feederband » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:28 am

stormtruth wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:are you suggesting that Israel should not have responded to the acts of war committed against them? IMO, that would have been dumb


And no matter how many Americans end up being killed in Lebanon it is worth it? I'm just saying they could have been more patient. Maybe those Americans in Lebanon were just crying on tv because they enjoy the bombs so much :roll: Plus, the shiites in Iraq have already had marches and are planning strikes on our troops as a result of Isreal's action. And part of the reason Iran has become stronger is because when we invaded Iraq we took their biggest enemy off the table and freed the shias. Just something to think about as we watch gas prices soar here at home.


What does this have anything to do with Israel's border being violated and it's troops on their soil killed and kidnapped...War is War You can't look at the T.V guied and tell when its going to start and stop...Those people are in a bad place at a bad time...As a Ameican you wouldn't catch my @$$ in the mid east right now anyway...
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#297 Postby stormtruth » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:28 am

Regit wrote:Well there aren't just Americans in Lebanon. I doubt that we searched Iraq before we invaded to make sure all foreigners were gone. For Israel to say, "Hey all foreigners, please leave. You have one week to do so." would be stupid. All that would do is allow Hezbollah a week's worth of free hits.


No, it would have been a good idea to wait and give foreigners time to get out.
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#298 Postby feederband » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:30 am

stormtruth wrote:
Regit wrote:Well there aren't just Americans in Lebanon. I doubt that we searched Iraq before we invaded to make sure all foreigners were gone. For Israel to say, "Hey all foreigners, please leave. You have one week to do so." would be stupid. All that would do is allow Hezbollah a week's worth of free hits.


No, it would have been a good idea to wait and give foreigners time to get out.


:roll: Good thing you not one of the military Generals..
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#299 Postby Regit » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:31 am

Well arguing this is pointless. The foreigners who are there knew the consequences of living in Lebanon before they went. They knew how likely it was that they could be caught in a conflict. So it's not like they are suddenly caught in this by surprise.
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#300 Postby Brent » Sat Jul 15, 2006 11:32 am

stormtruth wrote:
Regit wrote:Well there aren't just Americans in Lebanon. I doubt that we searched Iraq before we invaded to make sure all foreigners were gone. For Israel to say, "Hey all foreigners, please leave. You have one week to do so." would be stupid. All that would do is allow Hezbollah a week's worth of free hits.


No, it would have been a good idea to wait and give foreigners time to get out.


At the same time however, that would have allowed the terrorists to escape. That was not an option and you know it. I'm not going to fault the Americans, but they travelled to Lebanon willingly and knew the dangers.
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