I am SOOOO sick of hearing "HAPPY HOLIDAYS!"

[j]

I'll hand it to you....you did your research. I did my official poll too. I asked 10 people I work with if they are Christains..all 10 said yes. I guess I'll have to try down the street.

[Amanzi]

If the offends anyone OH WELL


Merry CHRISTmas all and a very Happy New year to each and every one of you!

May your Christmas be a blessed time with your loved ones and may your New year be FULL of Blessings!!!

Aaron

I could not have said it any better Ditto to what Aaron said

[WoodstockWX]

I'll hand it to you....you did your research. I did my official poll too. I asked 10 people I work with if they are Christains..all 10 said yes. I guess I'll have to try down the street.

i could ask 20 kids in my history class, and my history teacher did, we are all against the war, but that doesn't mean 100% of american teens are against it.

you can't just pick 10 or 20 selected people you know, it has to be thousands of varied people of diff locations, age, race, background to get accurate statistics.

For example, in my old town we had 1500 people, one christian church, less than 150 attended.

Does that mean 10% of Americans are christian? It doesn't even make 10% of the town Christian...

[j]

thank you for that educational lesson. I made my point, and most people on this board understand what it was.

Not to pick on "you" specifically, but your classmates, or your professors, do not necessarily represent the core values of this great country. You have not even begun to live your life yet. When you have, when you have raised children, when you have buried parents...when you have fought for your country....your perspective is likely to change.

Someday....you might even find God.

[WoodstockWX]

thank you for that educational lesson. I made my point, and most people on this board understand what it was.

Not to pick on "you" specifically, but your classmates, or your professors, do not necessarily represent the core values of this great country. You have not even begun to live your life yet. When you have, when you have raised children, when you have buried parents...when you have fought for your country....your perspective is likely to change.

Someday....you might even find God.

a poll was done at our school and 82% of students are against the war and 75% of teachers are against it.

our 19th/20th century teacher is also against it.

And maybe you are BLIND because I said my classmates and professors DO NOT represent the feelings of all americans.

read the whole thing, not just where I said 21 out of my 21 students and teachers in my 19/20th century history class are against the war.

and how about vietnam?

That war was not necessary, and neither is the current one, and most of the people who risked their lives in vietnam ARE against war.

Just because you are anti-war does not make you un-american.

Most people are anti war, but most americans are pro-america.

I find your above post VERY offensive, misleading and false.

[WoodstockWX]

this is what I wrote:

"i could ask 20 kids in my history class, and my history teacher did, we are all against the war, but that doesn't mean 100% of american teens are against it.

you can't just pick 10 or 20 selected people you know, it has to be thousands of varied people of diff locations, age, race, background to get accurate statistics.

For example, in my old town we had 1500 people, one christian church, less than 150 attended.

Does that mean 10% of Americans are christian? It doesn't even make 10% of the town Christian..."

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but you only read this:

"i could ask 20 kids in my history class, and my history teacher did, we are all against the war"

[streetsoldier]

A similar poll at coppertop's high school showed 84% were in favor of the war, 7% against, and 9% undecided.

I guess it depends largely on where such a poll is taken.

[WoodstockWX]

A similar poll at coppertop's high school showed 84% were in favor of the war, 7% against, and 9% undecided.

I guess it depends largely on where such a poll is taken.

exactly!

that is why I said to get an accurate poll you need 1000s of people of different race, background, location, gender, age!!!

[streetsoldier]

Ideally, yes...but many places, such as Sikeston, do not have such an arbitrarily diverse population from which to poll. I should also mention that 94% identified themselves as being "Christian", with 0.9 as "atheist" and the remainder as "no preference".

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[streetsoldier]

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[mf_dolphin]

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[azsnowman]

Another thought woodstock, why do we have "In God We Trust" on our money?? I bet you don't hesitate to spend that money every payday! Not flaming you here woodstock, it's NOT my style, just curious as to your thoughts on this!

Dennis

[mf_dolphin]

A similar poll at coppertop's high school showed 84% were in favor of the war, 7% against, and 9% undecided.

I guess it depends largely on where such a poll is taken.

exactly!

that is why I said to get an accurate poll you need 1000s of people of different race, background, location, gender, age!!!

And if you look at a national poll in the US you would find that most Americans were in favor of the war. How does that fit your requirements?

[azskyman]

Nice job, Blizzard! Be careful, you'll be recruited into politics with all that political correctness!

Just one reaction to this remark here...

and how about vietnam?

That war was not necessary, and neither is the current one, and most of the people who risked their lives in vietnam ARE against war.

I spent all of 1970 in Vietnam. Drafted, not volunteer. I hated that war...but I thank God every day for the person it helped me become.

...and whether you are right or wrong in your assessment of the majority of us Vietnam vets is not important. I believe the lives of people in this country are in 2003 safer...regardless of the risk...because we have backed up that commitment to our people with force.

Merry Christmas indeed!

[WoodstockWX]

A similar poll at coppertop's high school showed 84% were in favor of the war, 7% against, and 9% undecided.

I guess it depends largely on where such a poll is taken.

exactly!

that is why I said to get an accurate poll you need 1000s of people of different race, background, location, gender, age!!!

And if you look at a national poll in the US you would find that most Americans were in favor of the war. How does that fit your requirements?

Most americans, WERE in favor of the war or are in favor now?

I'm in the process of looking it up now.

[WoodstockWX]

Another thought woodstock, why do we have "In God We Trust" on our money?? I bet you don't hesitate to spend that money every payday! Not flaming you here woodstock, it's NOT my style, just curious as to your thoughts on this!

Dennis

Do you not send your children to schools that teach evolution and discuss evolution vs creationism?

Money doesn't effect me, its just paper or metal.

Saying the pledge is different, as well as other things I've stated tonight.

Actually, I don't use cash that often, I've had a checking account for nearly 6 months now, and I stick to the checks and debit card but I used cash only sparingly.

[WoodstockWX]

The numbers I am finding from gallup polls released in mid DEC that generally 50-65% of americans are in favor of the war, how it is being run and other similar topics.

My post of 20/20 kids being anti war was only showing that small numbers of people, all similar in location, age, race, backgrounds can really give false numbers.

There are some schools highly against war and some highly for war.

For the adult population I would imagine the numbers are much more consistently in the 50-65% or so range.