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#41 Postby stormraiser » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:48 pm

It's probably better they don't for that one :)
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#42 Postby Willh » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:48 pm

Winnipesaukee wrote:
ColdFront77 wrote:Speakers don't work with my new computer.

You didn't miss much. Just the robotic voice of "Microsoft Sam" telling you that you don't come across as a robot.
How did you get the program you have that does that? I'd love to have that...and, yes, I know I would. lol.
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#43 Postby Winnipesaukee » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:50 pm

Willh wrote:How did you get the program you have that does that? I'd love to have that...and, yes, I know I would. lol.


http://www.naturalreaders.com/standard_version.htm
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#44 Postby GalvestonDuck » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:50 pm

Sometimes I try to post so it flows like I speak...even if it's not always grammatically correct or if the punctuation isn't always right. For example, I'll use "..." to drag out the sentence where I would usually pause in a conversation. And if I'm ranting about something like how rainbowflagwavingbirkenstockwearingspikedhairmultipiercedleftwingultramilitant gay women just aren't my type, I'll do it like that.

So, in that way, it's the same words...but it's still sorta unique to me and the few others who might do it that way. I say whatever's comfortable for you to communicate with us, do it. :)

(*And let me emphasize "communicate" means that the message gets sent and received as intended. When you attack or flame, you're not getting your message across and therefore, you're not communicating. :) )
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#45 Postby ColdFront77 » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:51 pm

It isn't that we are comfortable communicating any way. It just comes out.
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#46 Postby Willh » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:53 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:Sometimes I try to post so it flows like I speak...even if it's not always grammatically correct or if the punctuation isn't always right. For example, I'll use "..." to drag out the sentence where I would usually pause in a conversation. And if I'm ranting about something like how rainbowflagwavingbirkenstockwearingspikedhairmultipiercedleftwingultramilitant gay women just aren't my type, I'll do it like that.

So, in that way, it's the same words...but it's still sorta unique to me and the few others who might do it that way. I say whatever's comfortable for you to communicate with us, do it. :)

(*And let me emphasize "communicate" means that the message gets sent and received as intended. When you attack or flame, you're not getting your message across and therefore, you're not communicating. :) )
That's something often overlooked. To be an author and have great style doesn't necessarily mean you have to use half decent grammar at all...just look at Hubert Selby jr and James Joyce, among many others.
People get creative with grammar...and it's allowed.
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#47 Postby Anonymous » Mon Apr 12, 2004 8:55 pm

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brettjrob wrote:Interesting topic, Tom. No matter how much we try to be unique in our style of writing, there really are only so many ways to formulate grammatically correct sentences. This is one reason why English and writing has never interested me much; it's so subjective and hard to define what's good and bad. I cannot stand it when English teachers grade your writing based on style because there is no set "correct" style, and one teacher may love a style another fails students for using.
I completely disagree...reading books by others is enhanced thousands of times if they have a good grasp of language and how to use it in their own particular way. I can read a book for no reason but the flow of the words...it's just beautiful. Just like a song.
It's the difference between scientifically oriented minds that are more boxed by their own Aristotelian logic vs those who are more interested in the humanities. Neither is better, but they are different.

When applied to novels whose authors are professional writers, this logic is fine, but I was specifically talking about high school English teachers and their methods of grading.

What I have seen is that English teachers have a whole lot of leeway to be subjective in their grading, and some even let their personal opinions of students appear in the process. My view is that style should not be a factor unless one is taking advanced writing courses (such as yourself) because they have chosen to.

At school, I have always enjoyed math and to a lesser extent science, while loathing history, foreign language, and (especially) English. Nothing is more painful to me than having an abstract, artsy poem shoved down my throat and being forced to spend my time analyzing "literary devices" when it bores me to tears and is seemingly irrelevant to my life. You are definitely correct that it is all a matter of the way your mind thinks -- and I am 110% left-brained, so my opinions on these matters are probably going to differ from yours quite a bit.

All this said, I do believe that English class can be not only productive but also enjoyable (or in the case of people like me bearable ;)) if the teacher is objective and intelligent, and I think you will make a great teacher. Good luck with your career (I assume that's what you're headed for considering your majors).
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#48 Postby Willh » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:00 pm

brettjrob wrote:When applied to novels whose authors are professional writers, this logic is fine, but I was specifically talking about high school English teachers and their methods of grading.

What I have seen is that English teachers have a whole lot of leeway to be subjective in their grading, and some even let their personal opinions of students appear in the process. My view is that style should not be a factor unless one is taking advanced writing courses (such as yourself) because they have chosen to.

At school, I have always enjoyed math and to a lesser extent science, while loathing history, foreign language, and (especially) English. Nothing is more painful to me than having an abstract, artsy poem shoved down my throat and being forced to spend my time analyzing "literary devices" when it bores me to tears and is seemingly irrelevant to my life. You are definitely correct that it is all a matter of the way your mind thinks -- and I am 110% left-brained, so my opinions on these matters are probably going to differ from yours quite a bit.

All this said, I do believe that English class can be not only productive but also enjoyable (or in the case of people like me bearable ;)) if the teacher is objective and intelligent, and I think you will make a great teacher. Good luck with your career (I assume that's what you're headed for considering your majors).
That's what I'm heading for, yeah. I'd like to go perhaps towards getting a doctorate and maybe someday teach at a college.

But what you're saying here I completely agree with. Growing up my least favorite class was always either grammar or english...by far. I still hate grammar. The thing is...most english professors do, too. It's just the building blocks of getting into what most english majors love...writing and reading.
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#49 Postby Anonymous » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:01 pm

ColdFront77 wrote:That isn't true, Brett. "You know who" at WWBB said my posts were "robotic" before I ever mentioned I have Asperger's Syndrome. Bringing up I have this condition is good for everyone, I would hope.

Only a handful of members of this site know I have Asperger's. The three threads on it have been buried.

If you want to think I take things seriously, I guess I can't change your mind.

I don't think any such thing, and I figured you would know that from other posts I've made. I fully understand that your condition puts up a barrier between your thoughts/intentions and the way you come across to others. I'm sure you don't take everything seriously in your mind, even if it does sometimes appear that way coming through my browser.

As far as I know, everyone who posts at these boards regularly is aware of your condition and no one thinks any less of you for it. You have some unique skills and talents (especially numerically-related) that surpass those of practically everyone else here, which is more than enough to make up for any perceived lack of humor -- which, as I mentioned before, is not unique to you.

And WRT that "certain poster" at WWBB, if I remember correctly the first time he made that comment was in the thread you started about AS.
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#50 Postby ColdFront77 » Mon Apr 12, 2004 9:07 pm

Thanks, Brett.

Members here can't know about my condition if not that many read the threads. If it appears to others that I am being serious, then I should think everyone here is coming across serious to me, and that isn't the case.

My skills with numbers showing through here at Storm2K is simple mathematics. I never took calculus or trignometry, although I wish I did.

I know for a fact that the "certain poster" at WWBB said I sounded like a robot two or three days before I created the thread on Asperger's Syndrome.
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Re: Posting styles

#51 Postby j » Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:33 am

ColdFront77 wrote:My 9:13 pm EDT post:

ColdFront77 wrote:I have been told that people have different styles of getting their point across. If people use the same words to make sentences, what is so unique?



I have brought this up before, but never in it's own thread.

There are only so many different ways to construct sentences. Words make sentence, which in turn make paragraphs.

I can honestly say I understand "posting (writing) style," however six members here can and do post the same thing, so that obviously isn't a "posting (writing) style."


ok...I'm confused...but that is nothing new!

Do you mean "six" people specifically?...or is that just your way of saying a bunch of people will post the same thing but say it differently?

I guess what threw me was this ---> six members here can and do post the same thing

My best guess is that you mean each poster in the majority of his or her posts, has a "tone" about their posts, whether it be seriousness, sarcasm, indifference, argumentative, agreeable, analytical, ....so forth...and so on...
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#52 Postby ColdFront77 » Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:02 pm

Yes, j... I am giving "six members" as an example. Sorry for the confusion.
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#53 Postby WEATHER53 » Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:07 pm

Effective use of language and math can accomplish the vast majority of what is needed in life and the absence of many other disciplines or studies will not diminish one's effectivness. You can otherwise be brilliant but if you cannot write nor speak nor add/subtract at an above average skill level; success will be very limited.
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