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#41 Postby feederband » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:47 am

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sunny wrote:That's fine - but if evolution can be taught in school then why can't the Word of the Bible?


Because the former is science, the latter is religion.


So it's okay to teach that the world "evolved" but not that it was "created"?


It is fine at a church or a religious school...
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#42 Postby sunny » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:48 am

feederband wrote:
sunny wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
sunny wrote:That's fine - but if evolution can be taught in school then why can't the Word of the Bible?


Because the former is science, the latter is religion.


So it's okay to teach that the world "evolved" but not that it was "created"?


It is fine at a church or a religious school...


Then evolution should be kept in a separate arena!!
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#43 Postby CajunMama » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:49 am

feederband wrote:It is simple to prove he does not exsist....It can not be proven he exsist....Why believe in a book..I rather believe in myself...


It's a matter of faith. What you believe inside of you.


If you are going to teach evolution then there should be a counterclass covering ALL religions. Wouldn't just being allowed to teach evolution be onesided?
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#44 Postby sunny » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:50 am

CajunMama wrote:
feederband wrote:It is simple to prove he does not exsist....It can not be proven he exsist....Why believe in a book..I rather believe in myself...


It's a matter of faith. What you believe inside of you.


If you are going to teach evolution then there should be a counterclass covering ALL religions. Wouldn't just being allowed to teach evolution be onesided?


Exactly Mama!!
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#45 Postby CajunMama » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:50 am

Oh...and this thread is why i usually don't discuss politics, religion or sex! :wink: :ggreen:
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#46 Postby gtalum » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:51 am

sunny wrote:So it's okay to teach that the world "evolved" but not that it was "created"?


The world did not "evolve". It was created by the process of fused solar matter condensing due to gravity. The creatures upon the world, however, did evolve.
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#47 Postby sunny » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:51 am

gtalum wrote:
sunny wrote:So it's okay to teach that the world "evolved" but not that it was "created"?


The world did not "evolve". It was created by the process of fused solar matter condensing due to gravity. The creatures upon the world, however, did evolve.


You know what I meant talum.
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#48 Postby feederband » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:52 am

sunny wrote:
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sunny wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
sunny wrote:That's fine - but if evolution can be taught in school then why can't the Word of the Bible?


Because the former is science, the latter is religion.


So it's okay to teach that the world "evolved" but not that it was "created"?


It is fine at a church or a religious school...


Then evolution should be kept in a separate arena!!


Things are still evoving today...This is a fact based teaching...Not a belief in a book that can't be proven...I guess you would probably say that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. Because the bible time line makes the earth about 6000 years old....I say I like the evolution teaching better..
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#49 Postby feederband » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:54 am

CajunMama wrote:
feederband wrote:It is simple to prove he does not exsist....It can not be proven he exsist....Why believe in a book..I rather believe in myself...


It's a matter of faith. What you believe inside of you.


If you are going to teach evolution then there should be a counterclass covering ALL religions. Wouldn't just being allowed to teach evolution be onesided?



Yes I also enjoy reading about all religions.. I would not have a problem if all were taught to everone...But not just one..Evolution is not a religion...
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#50 Postby sunny » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:54 am

feederband wrote:Things are still evoving today...This is a fact based teaching...Not a belief in a book that can't be proven...I guess you would probably say that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. Because the bible time line makes the earth about 6000 years old....I say I like the evolution teaching better..


I don't have children. But if I did - suppose I said that I did not want my child's believes in God to be countered? What would you say to that? Because I would teach my child that God created the world AND man. If you are going to teach one, then the other should be offered as well.
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#51 Postby wxcrazytwo » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:58 am

sunny wrote:
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sunny wrote:That's fine - but if evolution can be taught in school then why can't the Word of the Bible?


Because the former is science, the latter is religion.


So it's okay to teach that the world "evolved" but not that it was "created"?


The world was created, but not by whom you think and the world is evolving.
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#52 Postby feederband » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:58 am

sunny wrote:
feederband wrote:Things are still evoving today...This is a fact based teaching...Not a belief in a book that can't be proven...I guess you would probably say that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. Because the bible time line makes the earth about 6000 years old....I say I like the evolution teaching better..


I don't have children. But if I did - suppose I said that I did not want my child's believes in God to be countered? What would you say to that? Because I would teach my child that God created the world AND man. If you are going to teach one, then the other should be offered as well.


I have 3 children... I have told them they are to young for religion..I want them to decide for themselves...I recently had one tell me he don't believe in god..I told him he was wrong to say that just because it's what I believe that is what I'm against I don't believe you should believe just because some one says thats the way it is... I tell them to go to church if they want but just to be open minded that maybe there is a different story than the one that is being told their and to make their own decision..
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#53 Postby wxcrazytwo » Wed Jan 18, 2006 9:59 am

sunny wrote:
feederband wrote:
sunny wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
sunny wrote:That's fine - but if evolution can be taught in school then why can't the Word of the Bible?


Because the former is science, the latter is religion.


So it's okay to teach that the world "evolved" but not that it was "created"?


It is fine at a church or a religious school...


Then evolution should be kept in a separate arena!!


No. Don't you believe we came from monkeys?? :wink:
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#54 Postby feederband » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:01 am

wxcrazytwo wrote:
sunny wrote:
feederband wrote:
sunny wrote:
x-y-no wrote:
sunny wrote:That's fine - but if evolution can be taught in school then why can't the Word of the Bible?


Because the former is science, the latter is religion.


So it's okay to teach that the world "evolved" but not that it was "created"?


It is fine at a church or a religious school...


Then evolution should be kept in a separate arena!!


No. Don't you believe we came from monkeys?? :wink:


Monkeys or dirt that is the question..
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#55 Postby fwbbreeze » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:01 am

Sunny my friend it is useless to argue with individuals that don't believe as you and I do. Mine and your views will never change on the matter as will theirs. Rest assured our faith is what guides us in our beliefs and I will stand by my faith(beliefs) forever. If you objectively look at this I still believe that this class should be allowed to be taught as an elective. The class as stated in the article is the bibles influence on culture....that is very relevant no matter what your religious beliefs are. My point is that this class has as much relevance and meaning as a class on evolution. That is why it should be allowed as an elective.

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#56 Postby wxcrazytwo » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:02 am

sunny wrote:
feederband wrote:Things are still evoving today...This is a fact based teaching...Not a belief in a book that can't be proven...I guess you would probably say that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. Because the bible time line makes the earth about 6000 years old....I say I like the evolution teaching better..


I don't have children. But if I did - suppose I said that I did not want my child's believes in God to be countered? What would you say to that? Because I would teach my child that God created the world AND man. If you are going to teach one, then the other should be offered as well.


If you had children (you can have mine if you wish. :wink: ), but if you had children teaching them that only God created man is ridiculous. You will have problems when it comes to human biology and so forth. I say let them learn that stuff when the time is right.
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#57 Postby x-y-no » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:03 am

sunny wrote:
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sunny wrote:That's fine - but if evolution can be taught in school then why can't the Word of the Bible?


Because the former is science, the latter is religion.


So it's okay to teach that the world "evolved" but not that it was "created"?


There is a wealth of scientific evidence for evolution in the form of an enormous hierarchy of relationships between species, both on the macro level and the molecular level. This hierarchy is predicted by the theory of evolution, and specifically the existence and function of some molecular mechanism of heredity like DNA was predicted long before DNA was discovered.

If someone was to discover scientific evidence for creation and that discovery stood the test of replication by other independent researches, then and only then would it be appropriate to teach creation as science.
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#58 Postby gtalum » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:04 am

fwbbreeze wrote:...I still believe that this class should be allowed to be taught as an elective...


Even as an atheist, I concur. The Bible is a valid and valuable document, even if it is a work of mythology. It provides a lot of insight into ancient civilization.
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#59 Postby fwbbreeze » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:04 am

wxcrazytwo wrote:
sunny wrote:
feederband wrote:Things are still evoving today...This is a fact based teaching...Not a belief in a book that can't be proven...I guess you would probably say that dinosaurs and humans walked the earth at the same time. Because the bible time line makes the earth about 6000 years old....I say I like the evolution teaching better..


I don't have children. But if I did - suppose I said that I did not want my child's believes in God to be countered? What would you say to that? Because I would teach my child that God created the world AND man. If you are going to teach one, then the other should be offered as well.


If you had children (you can have mine if you wish. :wink: ), but if you had children teaching them that only God created man is ridiculous. You will have problems when it comes to human biology and so forth. I say let them learn that stuff when the time is right.


Crazy that is not what the article said....please re read the article!!! :roll:
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#60 Postby feederband » Wed Jan 18, 2006 10:04 am

fwbbreeze wrote:Sunny my friend it is useless to argue with individuals that don't believe as you and I do. Mine and your views will never change on the matter as will theirs. Rest assured our faith is what guides us in our beliefs and I will stand by my faith(beliefs) forever. If you objectively look at this I still believe that this class should be allowed to be taught as an elective. The class as stated in the article is the bibles influence on culture....that is very relevant no matter what your religious beliefs are. My point is that this class has as much relevance and meaning as a class on evolution. That is why it should be allowed as an elective.

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As a elective I really don't have a problem with...But I don't think my tax dollars should go toward it...Maybe a volunteer would have to teach it...
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