Survivor 12/Panama Exile Premieres February 2nd....

[Skywatch_NC]

I just say Young Men, Young Women, Old Men and Old Women.

Eric

[Miss Mary]

Same here Eric.

I did laugh at the Golden Girls nic......only thing I'd change about your nics would be ~older~ for old!!!!

That er part is important.

Just ask that nutty girl Ciree, she didn't think she qualified for the older women group! LOL Right off the bat, I thought oh here we go, she'll be a complainer. Sure enough, she was.

One more thing, I wish these contestants would wear less skimpy clothing. During challenges there are so many blurred areas. "Old" Ciree was a popping out there! LOL I'm sorry, but she's just a ding-bat in my book.

Mary

[Skywatch_NC]

Same here Eric.

I did laugh at the Golden Girls nic......only thing I'd change about your nics would be ~older~ for old!!!!

That er part is important.

Just ask that nutty girl Ciree, she didn't think she qualified for the older women group! LOL Right off the bat, I thought oh here we go, she'll be a complainer. Sure enough, she was.

One more thing, I wish these contestants would wear less skimpy clothing. During challenges there are so many blurred areas. "Old" Ciree was a popping out there! LOL I'm sorry, but she's just a ding-bat in my book.

Mary

Mary,

I can't wait to see Ciree's reaction when it's her turn for the mother of all challenges of being on the island by herself until the next tribe(s) challenge round! LOL

Eric

[sfgal]

Miss Mary:

Although I really love Dan and Terry (my faves so far), I (like you) cannot imagine that they can live up to Tom. Did you know that Tom is now the spokesmodel for Caribbean Joe? Here's link for a Tom fix:

http://carribean-joe.com/men.html

[Miss Mary]

Heart be still, heart be still....

George Clooney move over!!!! LOL

Thanks for that "Survivor moment" sfgal!!!!! I thank you on sunny's behalf as well....she probably had a heart flutter or two there......he he

Mary

[sunny]

Heart be still, heart be still....

George Clooney move over!!!! LOL

Thanks for that "Survivor moment" sfgal!!!!! I thank you on sunny's behalf as well....she probably had a heart flutter or two there......he he

Mary

*sigh* he is SO handsome!!!

thank you sfgal

[Miss Mary]

Yeah, you made our night!!!!

I wonder if his wife realizes what she has? LOL Because he's a devoted father and husband, that makes him more appealing to me.

I want to find that guy this Survivor go around. Not sure who yet.

[sfgal]

You're welcome, Miss Mary and sunny. Miss Mary, you were wondering about the "hint" Probst gave about the immunity idol. Apparently, the statement to Misty was VERY carefully phrased, according to Dalton Ross (columnist for Entertainment Weekly. I'm copying his column on ew.com from today:

First off, before we get going with another season of Survivor, I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize. Some of you may have been having nightmares lately, and I honestly don't blame you a bit. After all, that picture of me shirtless in EW magazine (accompanying the article about my overnight stay on Exile Island) is one of the scariest things ever. There's really nothing I can do or say — except curse my editors. (And maybe try to eat a few more burgers.)

There was one good thing about going on location for this latest edition of Survivor, however: It gave me a chance to meet all the contestants right before the game started, as well as watch the first few days of filming. What exactly does that mean, besides a mild sunburn and an addiction to DEET? It means I can share with you a few interesting nuggets you didn't get to see in the premiere episode.

For instance, let's start with that opening scene on Exile Island when all the tribes competed in the first reward challenge. The younger women lost and were told they had to immediately pick someone to stay on the island. Danielle, who had lost for her team, volunteered. (Why would anyone in his or her right mind volunteer to spend the night alone on an island? Oh...uh, never mind.) Now, on TV you saw some pretty comical indecision, with the ladies finally settling on a game of rock, paper, scissors — which Misty lost. What you didn't see is that said indecision was even more comical in person. After Danielle volunteered and was turned down, then Courtney (the dread head with the identity crisis) also volunteered! And then she was turned down! Why all these people were volunteering (remember, they didn't know yet that there was a hidden immunity idol somewhere on the island) and why people were not allowing them to isolate themselves is completely beyond me. Probst repeatedly had to tell them to pick someone. It was pretty damn funny.

What you also didn't see was a pretty classic Probst line. After the challenge, as all the teams headed toward their boats to leave, Misty turned to the host and said, ''Looks like it's just you and me, Jeff.'' To which he replied (without missing a beat), ''Not for long.'' That, my friends, is pure uncut Probst. Except, in this case, I guess it actually was cut, so never mind.

Okay, one last behind-the-scenes tidbit to share, and one which I'm sure many of you are trying to decode: Probst's clue to Misty about the whereabouts of the hidden immunity idol. For the record, here is exactly what he said: ''You also have a lot of time to think about why fate chose you to be the first one out here, which is also why immunity is so important.'' This oral clue was actually a last-second addition. Right before the castaways showed up, Probst and Mark Burnett were perfecting the exact wording, with Jeff practicing it over and over to get it. (It should also be noted that the twist of not having to reveal that you have the hidden immunity idol until after the vote was also a last-minute switch. Originally contestants were going to have to reveal they had it before the vote, à la Hogeboom in Guatemala. For the record, I like it the new way a lot more.) Now, Burnett told us the meaning of the clue shortly after, but since spoilers are the bane of my existence, I will refrain from sharing it here. (Sorry.)

Okay, enough of that junk, it's time to talk a little Shane. Because a little Shane goes a long way, people. I knew this guy was in for a hard time when in our interview a few days before the game, he told me about his three-pack-a-day habit. He was even smoking while wearing the patch! And it's not just cigs this guy will be missing. He also drinks 15 cups of espresso a day! Caffeine and nicotine withdrawal? Fun stuff! Can't wait to check this clown out on day 5. One interesting Shane moment that didn't make it into this episode was at the immunity challenge. After his team came in second, thanks to Bruce's successful ring toss, Shane started running around the beach yelling, ''Miyagi!'' at the top of his lungs. Bruce actually refers to himself as Mr. Miyagi, so it wasn't completely out of the blue, but it was still pretty damn odd. (The producers may have cut this out because of Pat Morita's recent death. Or maybe just because I'm the only person in the world who would find such a thing funny. I'm also probably the only person who thought it funny that when Misty showed up for the challenge, it looked like she had peed her pants. Go back and watch — you'll see.)

As we know, the older women lost. Speaking of which, how much do you think they wanted to punch Jeff Probst in the mouth every time he referred to them as ''older women''? I'm actually kinda bummed Tina got voted out. She really got a raw deal: She had originally been chosen to compete on Survivor: Guatemala, but 10 days before she was to leave home, her son was killed in a car crash. As a parent, I can't even imagine going through something like that. And then, when she does show up for this season of Survivor, she's the first one kicked off. One can debate whether telling her tribemates about her situation would have saved her, but obviously strategy becomes secondary when you're still dealing with the loss of a loved one. (It should also be noted that in a press round table with Probst the day before filming began, all six of us had Tina in our final four. Four people — including Probst — even predicted Tina as the winner. My pick, Sally, is still alive. Take that, Probst!)

Even beyond the son thing, it's too bad Tina is gone, because she was a big personality, as you saw. Luckily, in between Shane, Cirie, Melinda, and ''Bob Dawg,'' there are plenty of those left. I've got a good feeling about Exile Island, and not just because I'm no longer on it.

What do you think? What's going to be a bigger factor, age or gender? And who are your early favorites?

[Intimidator]

the older women (I'm afraid will probably just keep losing now) at the start you need to keep the strongest players to avoid having to eliminate anyone. Then go for the stronger players when it becomes one tribe.

[Miss Mary]

I love Survivor articles like this. Thanks for posting it sfgal!

As for the clue, I'm still clueless! Someone has to point out to me I guess....okay Mary this is what Jeff actually SAID! LOL

Shane - a 15 cup expresso drinker to boot! Smoking with the patch on? Wow, this is going to be really interesting.......he is going to be miserable. I get a headache by noon, if I don't have my 2 cups of coffee first thing in the morning. I know b/c I've had my share of medical procedures where you have to fast after midnight. I'm a mess checking in too! He is going to be in agony.

Mary

[TexasStooge]

Shane - 3 pack of cigarretes a day?!?!?! I wonder how he smokes them, one entire box at a time?

You're right, Miss Mary, he IS gonna be miserable.

[sfgal]

Jeff said"''You also have a lot of time to think about why fate chose you to be the first one out here, which is also why immunity is so important.''

Misty was out there because her team could not find the amulet in the skulls, So could Jeff be hinting that the immunity is in that big skull? (Or perhaps even that someone will have to crush or destroy the big skull to find it?) Could it be under where the skulls for the competition were placed? I'm never good with riddles.

[Miss Mary]

Aha, the skull. You might be right sfgal! Sometimes you have to hit me over the head, er uh skull, to get it - bad, bad pun there....intended of course!

Stooge - yeah I did a double take too when he said on air he smoked 3 packs a day! Years ago my husband smoked one pack a week, so when he heard that he shook his head too. It will be interesting to watch next week.

I wish we could see what they don't put on air. That article sfgal posted told a lot more than we get to see!

Mary

[Miss Mary]

Well, shoot.....there go the 4 tribes. Merge tonight.....

From TV Guide (Shows we're watching tonight column)

http://www.tvguide.com/TV/HotList/

Survivor: Panama[New]

8 pm/ET, CBS
Like the castaways divided into four tribes? Doesn't really matter because the quartets merge into two tribes tonight, and the sides are chosen school-yard style. The biggest drama promises to focus on Shane, the self-confessed three-pack-a-day smoker, and whether he'll be able to quit cold turkey — or if he'll just quit the game, period.

[arkess7]

3 hours and counting!

[arkess7]

So Shane is a major lunatic huh? I wish he would have gotten voted off!!!! Or that other guy........(still not good with all the names yet)......what a jerk!

Terry is a strong one on the other team.......and I think the karate guy is too........he was on exile island for a few days........this season a man is gona win anyways.......since a women won last season........and i cant remember her name?

[Skywatch_NC]

So Shane is a major lunatic huh? I wish he would have gotten voted off!!!! Or that other guy........(still not good with all the names yet)......what a jerk!

Terry is a strong one on the other team.......and I think the karate guy is too........he was on exile island for a few days........this season a man is gona win anyways.......since a women won last season........and i cant remember her name?

Was it Danni?

[arkess7]

yea thats it danni..

[Skywatch_NC]

Yes, that Shane...I seriously wonder what the heck he was thinking when he applied for the show...Ah a Club Med?! Big baby...send him packing!!

It sounds like Cerie (sp?) wants to make a real go of it...too bad her impression on the viewers in the first week was kinda ho-hum...she says she's doing it for her family and that she would be more disappointed in herself than her family would towards her if she didn't make it all the way to the million.

I like Bruce...reminded me of Bruce Li doing his meditational martial arts moves while on Exile!! It's too bad that he had to end up with sorry Casaya though!

Eric

[Miss Mary]

I still do not have a favorite! Each Survivor I try to pick one by the second episode. Dang! This is going to be hard.

Shane is flakier than a dumb blonde - wait did I just say that? I'm sure there is plenty more he's said we're not going to see. It is edited out. A guy who spouts off in a challenge things are not going well, at all, that is a sure way to alienate your teammates. I loved the looks his comments got! This guy is going to do himself in and it will be fun to watch. When he was missing his son I did feel sorry for him. For about 5 minutes. From there, he went downhill. Shane will NOT be my favorite!

Cerie's first impression on viewers and players wasn't positive. But she could grow on me. She was especially kind to the woman voted off, they had sympathetic looks for one another and Cerie reached out her hand to her. Forgive me, I'm still trying to figure out their names. I mean the one with pretty eyes - shame she was dismissed right off, along with Cerie, b/c well, they're old? Is that why?

And finally, Shane going on and on about 35 not old, well it's not old. But I just think a 22 year old pup sitting there listening is going to be thinking - 35, dude that IS old!!!! LOL What fairytale land is Shane living in I want to know? I thought we'd see him puking and getting all sick, b/c of expresso and nicotine withdrawals? Not that I really want to see that but I thought he'd be a bigger mess than he was! A bad-a** club med idea......now that was FUNNY! Or however he said it.

*Edit....Melinda, that was her name. She's only 32! That's not old!!!! I don't know why the other members were writing her and Ciree off (who's 35, same age as youngster Shane!).

Mary