Israel thread #2

[Audrey2Katrina]

One thinks U.S.I. blew it by taking a stance for Israel because it automatically takes them out of any negotiating process

Okay... this PATENTLY shows that your previous statement was no effort at reverse sarcasm... rather it reflected blatant anti-Israeli/anti-semitism in its inference... this explains a lot, and perhaps I'll just leave it there, before I say something I truly will regret.

A2K

[NBCintern]

The satellite feeds are also available through CNN Pipeline.

Yeah, but their limited and most likely edited. I know for a fact their edited. You will never get the raw feed that I see. Sometimes they miss some and it is allowed to be viewed, but other not. FCC stuff.

[wx247]

Could you post some examples of things you have seen that we have not outside the media? Thanks.

[Audrey2Katrina]

We have chosen to stand by one of our closest allies after they were attacked. That is a bad thing? We have asked Israel to "not do anything" in the past, and they didn't. How can you be so sure the bombing aren't doing "anything" to weaken Hezbollah?

Excellent point, Sunny--case in point: During Desert Storm, while Americans were rooting the Iraqi forces from Kuwait and S. Iraq, Saddam did his best to provoke an Israeli response by lobbing dozens of SCUD missiles into Israel... at our request, the Israelis did NOT respond despite some rather UGLY consequences. Of course this gets little play in most circles of the media that wants to create the image of those big bad Israelis who spread "carnage" everywhere... meanwhile we read precious litlle about the "carnage" Hezbollah has created.

A2K

[Audrey2Katrina]

A2K, you trying to cause trouble and you know it.

Nope... just calling 'em as I see 'em. Using terms like US-I- is provocative enough in and of itself. You did so not once--but twice. One might well perceive the first as a use of literary license in making a responce to another's post--the second application of the same term only serves to reinforce perceptions about where that so-called "objective" viewpoint lay.

As far as the Israeli troops gathering along the Northern border... I suppose it's one of two things:

1.) A safety valve just "in case" they're needed as it's no longer any secret as to the thousands of missiles the Hezbollah terrorists possess, and it is hoped (albeit not much chance at success there IMO) that this will serve as an intimidating factor, or

2.) A precursor to an actual land incursion into Southern Lebanon.

One might equally ask the Lebanese Gov't that is sounding so "outraged' by all this, why they allowed Hezbollah to build up to the substantial military strengths they have right along the border with Israel. This was only asking for trouble--it was inevitable, and now it's come home to roost.

A2K

[NBCintern]

One thinks U.S.I. blew it by taking a stance for Israel because it automatically takes them out of any negotiating process

Okay... this PATENTLY shows that your previous statement was no effort at reverse sarcasm... rather it reflected blatant anti-Israeli/anti-semitism in its inference... this explains a lot, and perhaps I'll just leave it there, before I say something I truly will regret.

A2K

No it does not explain a lot. What it shows is that the U.S.I. cannot possibly be the mediator when its position is obvious.

P.S. For those that want to know what U.S.I. stands for, it is a joke amongst the staff here at NBC Burbank, that the U.S. is so much in alliance with Israel that we should be called the United States of Israel. I don't take offense and neither should anyone. It is almost similar to Derek's CNN to HNN change. It absolutely means nothing. And please do not take it out of context, as I know you will. Let's just stay on topic.

[x-y-no]

P.S. For those that want to know what U.S.I. stands for, it is a joke amongst the staff here at NBC Burbank, that the U.S. is so much in alliance with Israel that we should be called the United States of Israel. I don't take offense and neither should anyone. It is almost similar to Derek's CNN to HNN change. It absolutely means nothing. And please do not take it out of context, as I know you will. Let's just stay on topic.

Hmph.

I thought your initial use of "U.S.I." as a counter to "HNN" was valid. But your repeated use of it in subsequent posts is inappropriate and rather irritating.

[NBCintern]

P.S. For those that want to know what U.S.I. stands for, it is a joke amongst the staff here at NBC Burbank, that the U.S. is so much in alliance with Israel that we should be called the United States of Israel. I don't take offense and neither should anyone. It is almost similar to Derek's CNN to HNN change. It absolutely means nothing. And please do not take it out of context, as I know you will. Let's just stay on topic.

Hmph.

I thought your initial use of "U.S.I." as a counter to "HNN" was valid. But your repeated use of it in subsequent posts is inappropriate and rather irritating.

That's fine, I won't use it no more. I guess it does get bothersome.

[Audrey2Katrina]

No it does not explain a lot. What it shows is that the U.S.I. cannot possibly be the mediator when its position is obvious.

And how can you call yourself a journalist, or even an "aspiring" one, when your position is equally so "obvious"? Just a little tit-for-tat.

P.S. For those that want to know what U.S.I. stands for, it is a joke amongst the staff here at NBC Burbank,

I'm sure the folks at other networks would be falling over in hysterics at this Funny stuff. I could say something about "jokes" but by the barest, I'll exercise a little of that much hyped restraint. So we "should" be called the United States of Israel because we back the only established democracy in the Middle East? Because a proven ally of ours is under constant and incessant assault by hostility and HATE that won't be happy until they cease to exist? SHAME on us for having such a sense of allegiance. Did the US-I, act its part in telling their bosses to sit back and relax while Saddam rained SCUDS on them back in '91? As far as taking offense at USI designations, well I should think YOU wouldn't take offense.. I mean it's all a big joke to you folks, right? And it isn't remotely similar to Derek's comment which as you pointed out was the viewpoint of one individual, and have herein commented is the big "inside JOKE at NBC Burbank.

Let's just stay on topic.

Lame attempt at a pre-emptive strike of your own. Get in your cheap shots, then cry for staying on topic. Practice what you preach... should have left ANY references to USI off the board altogether.

EDITED: Since your response to x-y-no... although I must say I'm sorry to see that an entire newsroom is taking such a cavalier attitude in the light of blatant terrorism.

A2K

[Audrey2Katrina]

Latest news seem to suggest that a strike into Lebanon is all but a foregone conclusion at this point. One can only wonder what the response will be from nations like Iran and Syria should such an incursion take place.

Anyone hear about any changing views from other Arab countries? I know when all this started, a lot of other Arab countries distanced themselves from Hezbollah... which I think said a lot at the time...but I'm beginning to wonder if this will change as the imminence of a an Israeli strike into Lebanon looms larger and larger.

A2K

[sunny]

I don't know A2K. Last I heard most were wagging their fingers in both directions....

Condi is supposed to go there on Sunday, I think, to try to get a diplomatic solution in place.

[Derek Ortt]

Is NBC Intern a Hezbollah Intern? Because he always seems to defend everything Hezbollah says or does

Also, I would never advocate changing the name of our country... that would go against my Christian views

[NBCintern]

Is NBC Intern a Hezbollah Intern? Because he always seems to defend everything Hezbollah says or does

Also, I would never advocate changing the name of our country... that would go against my Christian views

Your kidding right?

[x-y-no]

And here comes the personal attack ...

Board rules, Derek. Please.

[Derek Ortt]

did not intend for my comment to be a personal attack, but if mods consider it to be one, please feel free to delete it

I was just posting it sarcastically as this is the same one who blamed us for 9/11 in the previous thread

[Janice]

U.S. Secretary of State Rice says a cease-fire would be a "false promise" if it simply returns Israel and Lebanon to the "status quo." Watch live on CNN Pipeline.

[sunny]

Foxnews.com Breaking News:

Rice: U.S. Troops Not Expected in Lebanon Peace Force

Rice Aims to Achieve Lasting Peaceful Conditions on Mideast Trip
Friday, July 21, 2006

WASHINGTON — Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice, heading for a weekend trip to the troubled Middle East, said she would work with allies in the region to help create conditions for "stability and lasting peace."

She ruled out a quick cease-fire as a "false promise" and defended her decision not to talk to officials from Hezbollah or Syria.

Story

[Audrey2Katrina]

Condi is supposed to go there on Sunday, I think, to try to get a diplomatic solution in place.

Good luck on that effort... seems almost futile. Still, I wish them luck.

A2K

[wx247]

MSNBC is reporting that a ground invasion is set to begin overnight there tonight.

Also, MSNBC just reported that a suspected female suicide bomber was arrested near the US embassy in Tel Aviv.

[Brent]

NBC News quoted a Senior Western Intelligence Official(whoever that is) that they expect an overnight invasion to begin tonight.