Israel vs Hezbollah Thread #3

[Audrey2Katrina]

What do you think, does Israel have a right to meddle with who's leading the UN-troops and from which countries the troops will come?

I wouldn't consider having a say about troops coming in ostensibly to protect the peace when some of those nations openly declare their desire for Israel to cease to exist as a nation... as "meddling". I'd call it an act of self-preservation--to which even the UN has conceded their right.

A2K

[stormtruth]

the UN HATES jews

Source?

I was wondering why Israel thinks they can disarm a group such as Hezbollah by using violence. Did they forget that with every bomb they drop on Lebanon, Hezbollah's support grows and more people will join Hezbollah's fight against Israel? Did they forget that as long as Syria and Iran are still hostile towards Israel, groups such as Hezbollah will continue their fight? I mean, as long as the people in Southern Lebanon support Hezbollah and they are backed up with weapons and money from Syria and Iran, Israel will be unable to get rid of Hezbollah.

you need a source you can't see the UN hatred for Israel you can't see that 3/4 of the UN resoulutions pass in its 60 yr history condem israel more than any other nation .they have not passed one NOT ONE resoulution condeming the palestinians for their homocide attacks and you need a source that the un is a joke.here the source, the UN ITSELF the oil for food program was the beginning of the proof

I hope the "homicide attacks" remark is not meant to ridicule gays because that is unacceptable. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homocide

The US also agreed to the cease-fire so blaming just the UN or Olmert for it as pointless.

fox news uses that word to descride exactly what they are cold blooded killers which happen to be terrorist which is a word reuters refuses to call them this is the same organization which pulled a dan rather by publishing false photos

fox news uses homicide not homocide

[Yarrah]

If they were _just_ from countries that didn't support the existence of Israel and I was the Israeli Prime Minister, I would do everything in my power to limit their effectiveness i.e. attack them.

You mean attacking the UN-troops? I'm not so sure if that would be a smart step; it could have major implications.

Still, I agree with you that the troops near the Israeli border should come from countries that acknowledge the existence of the Israeli state. It would make tensions only worse if those troops would acually be stationed there. I just hope that other countries will offer enough troops then, because right now there are way too little troops. A shame my governement doesn't want to send any.

[Audrey2Katrina]

Here you agreed with Brent that Israel should not have agreed to the ceasefire. If you don't agree with the ceasefire you are criticizing us policy because the us helped create the ceasefire. How can you have it both ways where you can dislike the ceasefire and agree with the usa on the ceasefire?

I'm not asking any more... I'm going to be quite insistent that you STOP addressing me directly in your endless quest for argumentation. Speak to the ISSUES and NOT to me! Additionally your chain of logic in the above line of reasoning is SERIOUSLY flawed-- STOP telling me what I've said! I DID say what the US says or feels is IRRELEVANT... and I stand on that! Sheeeee

A2K

[kevin]

If they were _just_ from countries that didn't support the existence of Israel and I was the Israeli Prime Minister, I would do everything in my power to limit their effectiveness i.e. attack them.

You mean attacking the UN-troops? I'm not so sure if that would be a smart step; it could have major implications.

Still, I agree with you that the troops near the Israeli border should come from countries that acknowledge the existence of the Israeli state. It would make tensions only worse if those troops would acually be stationed there. I just hope that other countries will offer enough troops then, because right now there are way too little troops. A shame my governement doesn't want to send any.

I can think of no reason why Israel would intentionally attack a peace keeping force. It was more of a mind experiment. If only anti-israeli countries were on the border of Israel and preventing Israel from implementing the UN resolution that calls for the disbanding of Hizbollah, then Israel would be justified in treating them as enemies.

I was using that extreme example to show why Israel should be able to protest the inclusion of anti-israeli nations sending peace keepers.

[stormtruth]

Here you agreed with Brent that Israel should not have agreed to the ceasefire. If you don't agree with the ceasefire you are criticizing us policy because the us helped create the ceasefire. How can you have it both ways where you can dislike the ceasefire and agree with the usa on the ceasefire?

I'm not asking any more... I'm going to be quite insistent that you STOP addressing me directly in your endless quest for argumentation. Speak to the ISSUES and NOT to me! Additionally your chain of logic in the above line of reasoning is SERIOUSLY flawed-- STOP telling me what I've said! I DID say what the US says or feels is IRRELEVANT... and I stand on that! Sheeeee

A2K

I do not think the US government's opinion is irrelevant since they are a major player in the middle east these days.

[Yarrah]

I was using that extreme example to show why Israel should be able to protest the inclusion of anti-israeli nations sending peace keepers.

I understand. Though I don't think the UN would be so stupid to send only troops from countries that deny Israel's existence and Israel to be so stupid to attack the UN-troops on purpose.

Here's an overview of the number of troops that have been promised and countries they're from.

* France--> already has 200 troops in the area but has pomised another 200
* Italy--> 1000 troops
* Bangladesh --> 2000 troops
* Indonesia --> 1000 troops
* Malaysia --> 1000 troops
* Germany --> No troops, but has promised to patrol Lebanon's shores
* Denmark --> Two ships
* Netherlands --> No troops, but it will send military and logistical advisors along with at least €5 million to rebuild Lebanon's infrastructure.

[Audrey2Katrina]

I do not think the US government's opinion is irrelevant since they are a major player in the middle east these days.

That is an opinion to which you are entitled. Personally I think it IS irrelevant in the viewpoint of the Israelis when it comes to preserving their right to exist.

A2K

[Lindaloo]

stormtruth... we do not tolerate harrassment in any, way shape or form. What you are doing in this thread is just that. Please refrain from harrassing other members and get back to the topic at hand or I will lock it and delete it.

You are walking a fine political line as well. Another we will not tolerate.