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#61 Postby HurryKane » Mon Mar 27, 2006 1:22 pm

The site is up, and the pic comes up fine for me. It will occasionally get slow but it's up.
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#62 Postby conestogo_flood » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:31 pm

Okay, today he seemed different. He was kind of more... "happier". It was a good day I think, yesterday his mom dyed his hair, and maybe that was a little quality time he needed with his mom. His mom isn't entirely the problem, it's his step-dad. Maybe they talked, I don't know.

But I just felt like he was feeling different. Maybe my being concerned did something in him. I don't know.

I am going to see what happens by Wednesday. That may be wrong of me, but I am just going to see how this week goes. On Wednesday/Thursday I will approach my parents about this, today was just so different for him, I don't know what to think. I don't exactly think he has changed just yet, but this might be a step for something.

I don't know whether to wait this out or not. I'm afraid to wait, but then I'm not. Maybe I was overplaying the situation, maybe I'm not. Maybe it was just a bad week. I feel better, and it might be the weather too. For the first time, it's warm out, sunny, light breeze. Maybe it's the weather. Last week was cold, windy and cloudy.
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#63 Postby SouthFloridawx » Mon Mar 27, 2006 3:34 pm

conestogo_flood wrote:Okay, today he seemed different. He was kind of more... "happier". It was a good day I think, yesterday his mom dyed his hair, and maybe that was a little quality time he needed with his mom. His mom isn't entirely the problem, it's his step-dad. Maybe they talked, I don't know.

But I just felt like he was feeling different. Maybe my being concerned did something in him. I don't know.

I am going to see what happens by Wednesday. That may be wrong of me, but I am just going to see how this week goes. On Wednesday/Thursday I will approach my parents about this, today was just so different for him, I don't know what to think. I don't exactly think he has changed just yet, but this might be a step for something.

I don't know whether to wait this out or not. I'm afraid to wait, but then I'm not. Maybe I was overplaying the situation, maybe I'm not. Maybe it was just a bad week. I feel better, and it might be the weather too. For the first time, it's warm out, sunny, light breeze. Maybe it's the weather. Last week was cold, windy and cloudy.


His depression is not going to just go away. Just try to talk to him about going to some kind of counseling.

I'm glad your having a better day today.
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#64 Postby conestogo_flood » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:02 pm

Tomorrow, everything changes. He is going to get the surprise of a life time. We've been invited to do a pesticide at some kids house I don't even know. I told him I'm not going, and I said he isn't. He is excited... I'm excited too... to show him how I feel.

I talked to a friend of his, and she said it's okay if he does drugs as long as he knows where it is coming from. She got mad at me for saying how I feel.

The battle ends tomorrow, and no I'm not going to kill him. I tell you after it happens. I'll leave y'all thinking.

BTW, yes he is in therapy now.
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#65 Postby beachbum_al » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:13 pm

The battle ends tomorrow

Drug addiction is an ongoing battle. He is making the first step though by getting therapy and realizing he has a problem. Peer pressure was bad when I was in high school but after working with high school students this past year I never dreamed how tough things were and what the kids are doing these days. It is not worth messing up your life because of a quick high. The High is gone in a few hours but the damage the drugs are doing is a lifetime.

I talked to a friend of his, and she said it's okay if he does drugs as long as he knows where it is coming from. She got mad at me for saying how I feel.
Proud that you stood up to her. It is not okay if he does drugs...period! Who knows where it is coming from? Even if you think you do you don't know because people (even so call friends) will do anything to make a quick buck. When someone is addicted to drugs they don't think of other people. They think of only themselves. And it is against the LAW.

You seem to have a good head on your shoulder. I can tell that you truly care about your friend. I really feel sorry for him. It is hard but there is a way out. TREATMENT. I just hope he is getting treatment and not just telling people.

So let me know what happens.
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#66 Postby conestogo_flood » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:15 pm

Oh, the therapy isn't for drugs. It's for his childhood. Drugs will never come up in that. He'll lie.
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#67 Postby conestogo_flood » Thu Jun 08, 2006 10:24 pm

Okay, this just occured with Richelle who seems to be over what I said earlier. I don't know what to say to her right now. Her name is ~~NEON~~. What a load of bull.

~~NEON~~ says:
yea i do shrooms
No change, I can't change. I can't change, I can't change. But I'm here in my mind. I am here in my mind. says:
would you do them with jay?
~~NEON~~ says:
yea i would and i would with you too if you wanted to
No change, I can't change. I can't change, I can't change. But I'm here in my mind. I am here in my mind. says:
okay
~~NEON~~ says:
do u want to
No change, I can't change. I can't change, I can't change. But I'm here in my mind. I am here in my mind. says:
nope
~~NEON~~ says:
okay
No change, I can't change. I can't change, I can't change. But I'm here in my mind. I am here in my mind. says:
dont turn jay into a druggie, is he already one
~~NEON~~ says:
if me and jay ever do shrooms u know that i would watch out for him and make sure that nothing goes wrong
~~NEON~~ says:
i dunno u know him better than i do
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#68 Postby conestogo_flood » Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:56 pm

Oh my God.

Thanks to Jay and his putting 1/4 ounce of marijuana and a gram of shrooms in my backpack I'm getting kicked out of my house.

My brother went through my bag this afternoon, I didn't even know they were in it.

I really wanted to move out, but then I decided not too.

My dad says he is going to find me a job, and I'm going to have to leave after that. He already started tonight and might have got me one. I really have no where to go.

I don't know what I am going to do. I just... UGHHH GOD DANGIT.

I don't know how I can even talk to Jay anymore. He has just cost me my future and my life. I have no where to go, I am going to ask a few friends if I can stay with them until I can find somewhere.

I totally do not know what I am going to do.

After my exam on Thursday I have 2 weeks to get out.

Guys :cry: .
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#69 Postby O Town » Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:27 pm

No offense conestogo, but when you say '1/4 ounce' of marijuana and a 'gram' of shrooms it sounds like you know ALOT about them, for someone who does not do them. I do feel really bad for your situation though, wish I had some words of wisdom for you, but I don't. Maybe you should choose your friends a little more wisely. Good luck to you.
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#70 Postby george_r_1961 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:21 pm

Hate to sound condescending here but when you play with fire u get your fingers burnt. I tend to agree with O Town..you do seem to know a lot about drugs for someone that doesnt use them.

You seem like a nice enough guy. Leave the drugs alone and stay away from ppl that do drugs. That way you wont have drugs that arent yours mysteriously appearing in your backpack.

Sorry if ive sounded harsh here but ive been there before. Talk to your parents and try to work something out with them. Then start making some new friends.
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#71 Postby alicia-w » Fri Jun 16, 2006 9:25 pm

sounds like a self-fulfilling prophecy to me. it seems that not that long ago, you couldnt wait to get out of your house. sorry, but some of this just doesnt sound quite right. i've had 5 teenagers and have heard just about everything you can come up with. i dont think you're telling the whole story.
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#72 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:15 pm

Ok...1) if he gets caught and you are talking to him...then you are guilty by association and he could say you were helping him transport drugs (which since they were in your bag, it doesnt matter what you say...you would of gone to jail if you were caught...) 2) get ahold of your local police station, they will provide more help than you could ever provide, even if it means him spending time behind bars for him to think things through, amazing what happens to some teens after they spent time in the big house/get therapy...I know you feel like you should help him, however if you are caught it will ruin your entire life. Can you say no college? And also, the more drugs your "friend" does, the more he has to take to get the same level of high as the time before, and just one time is enough to kill him, so everytime he smokes/sniffs or however else he does them, it is that much closer to HIS DEATH...he may think its all a big game...but the truth is you only get one shot at life and drugs are deadly serious...
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#73 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 10:33 pm

here...let me give an example, some here have used the playing with fire example, well this is more like you and your friend taking turns hitting the detenator of a live 500 pound bomb with a sledge-hammer...eventually that bomb is going to go BOOM!!! and not only will it affect you two, but if you dont do something about it, ie tell the police (which would be getting some serious help), it will affect countless other people around you...I hope my above two posts have been helpful in getting you to make the right decisions, besides, whats more important? friendship or your entire future?
EDIT: this is a story one of my teachers told our class about drugs:
One of the girls here at my school was the top person grade-wise in the graduating senior class, every college wanted her to come to their college on scholarships...right after the last day of school she went out into the parking lot with some of her friends. and they were smoking some drug...well she and her friends got caught, she only took one little puff of one of their pipes, first time she had ever tried it and the only time, when the SRO (School Resource Officer) walked up, they all got arrested. After this not a single college would even look at her, especially for a scholarship...I know you are probably thinking "Well she was actually smoking the drug at the time" It doesn't matter, if you get caught while talkiing to him, whether the drug be on you or your "friend", you will suffer along with your "friend" and that means most likely jail time and most likely no really good paying jobs when you get older...You can also try telling a trusted adult or teacher...
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#74 Postby beachbum_al » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:07 pm

Not trying to sounds harsh but is he really a friend? He put stuff in your backpack. In my opinion a friend would not do that. I would talk to your parents and as hard and harsh this is going to sound I would not be around him. If he gets busted and you are with, both of you are in trouble. Not just him. You are young and I know that you don't want to listen to an old person like me but it wasn't too long I was in high school (well 18 years and counting). I had friends from the time I was in middle school who I was close to. By the time I got to high school some of them got addicted. Making the decision to do what is right is hard at times. But that decision could change your life for the better. You do not want to get messed up with drugs. It is not worth it! The members here have already given you some good advice. It might sound harsh and hard to digest at first but they are speaking the truth.
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#75 Postby therock1811 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:21 pm

Hate to say it, but that's no friend. That's just scum.
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#76 Postby vbhoutex » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:28 pm

therock1811 wrote:Hate to say it, but that's no friend. That's just scum.


Couldn't say it better myself Jeremy, whether we are getting the full story or not. Trust me, I may be an old fart, but I have BTDT and raised two teens also, both who liked the drugs, one enough to be in rehab at 13 years old. Both are now productive citizens. So I have BTDT. First advice is RUN as fast as you can the other way from Jay. He has to hit rock bottom before he will change. Unfortunate, but true, we can't always help our "friends". Definitely, time to cut and run and TIME TO FIND A DIFFERENT CROWD TO RUN WITH!!!
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#77 Postby therock1811 » Fri Jun 16, 2006 11:55 pm

I've not gone there, but believe me, any "friend" that would do something like that to me deserves to lose his friends, and his freedom. Cut and run, it's not worth the potential losses.
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#78 Postby Audrey2Katrina » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:33 am

Well, curiosity drove me to check this thread, and having read all the posts I'll make one comment and leave it at that. (Bear in mine brevity is NOT one of my finer points).

As a teacher for kids, mostly grades 7-12, for 26 years I've seen it all. And if I sound like I know a little about drugs, do NOT think it's from experience, because quite honestly it isn't. Yes, I was around pot (thankfully nothing worse as a youth) a lot in my area, but something about drugs always gave me the heebie-jeebies, and I'd seen what it can do to a life as early as in my teens when a friend of mine who was "toking" stradled across a main thoroughfare, into the path of an oncoming car, and was knocked clear down the block to a nearby curb. He was all of 14 at the time. I'll never forget that incident as I was with other friends walking under the overpass that he apparently was crossing--the sound of the thud when his body was struck will haunt me forever, as will the sight of his crushed body resting against that curb. I didn't ride with him in the ambulance, but another friend did--DOA. This happened almost exactly one year to the day from when we lost another friend who everyone knew was smoking the stuff as often as he could get his hands on it, and then one day, while doing the "harmless" stuff, happened to be emboldened to try sniffing Freon.. (I think that's what it was.. I believe they pour it into a sink or something and then.. I dunno sounds absolutely STUPID to me.) He went into spasms of some sort, and collapsed choking (this is according to a second hand report, I was NOT there), but I'll never forget the call that night when a mutual friend told me "Peter was dead!"... two in two years! Sorry, I don't buy the marijuana is harmless bit. For all those who've done it and survived, (which thankfully and admittedly is the majority), congratulations, and I hope you have since given up this dangerous habit. But that was only a prefix to another "friend" scenario.

You see, I had this girlfriend much later, well after I had gotten into teaching, and for whatever it's worth I took a course in Drug and Narcotics Education, so I learned a lot there, but still am quite naive even compared to some of the students I teach today. (WTH is a pesticide?--seriously is that a drug jargon thing?) Anyway, I digress. It turns out she had a daughter who started with the "harmless" drug and gave us all the rationale every time we tried to confront her with the dangers of it being a "gateway" (yeah, I know some folks don't like to hear that, but all too often that's EXACTLY what it is--and it proved tragically true here once again). The long and the short of it is that her daughter was by then a senior in HS, and felt quite independent. She started hanging with the pot crowd, which led her eventually to the ecstasy crowd, which led her to the pill-popping crowd (Vicodin (sp?) and Soma being among the favorites--as was Valium)... I tried my damndest to get my friend to get her into rehab, which she did succeed in doing, once... then later, her daughter broke into her apartment, stealing all of *'s credit cards and cash... clearly for the purposes of acquiring her preferred leisure. I tried time and time again to convince * (don't want to throw out names here) that if she didn't do something "tough" soon, she'd really wind up with serious problems and I saw that ** (her daughter) winding up in an early grave. Sad to say after an episode wherein ** wound up in jail (drugs)... she got out and went right back to stealing things from a mother who couldn't bring herself to recognize the problem's magnitude. Operating from the outside there was little I could do but I did get to the point where I told her I didn't want to hear any more about her daughter until/unless she took proactive measures to rein her in, and if that meant with law enforcement, so be it, if it could save her life. Sadly, she never made that decision.
So * stopped calling me until the day I received a call. It appeared her daughter got hold of a massive supply of Soma, and wanted to go into a "Soma Coma", .. well she succeeded, but never did come out... DOA. --age: 20. (Guess that completed the always in 3 for me--sure hope so!)Within two years, her mother died in her sleep, heart-attack, I feel brought on very prematurely by the stress she brought on herself while battling the conflicting emotions with regard to her daughter. I only hope they're together in a better place at this time.

Moral of the story: I don't care what the apologists for MJ say, it IS a gateway drug, it IS harmful, it has 20 times the "tar" of cigarettes so please spare me the "it's not as dangerous as cigarettes" crap. And it can ruin your life and/or the lives of those you love or care about. There's an old saying, if you sleep with dogs, don't be surprised when you wake up with fleas. It's NOT being a "bad" friend to simply draw a line in the sand, because if you keep that rope wrapped around you long enough, they just might drag you down with them (as seems to have been the case here). I would only recommend that you've been offered some good advice in here, mostly from folks far less longwinded than I. Personally I think YOU have reached a fork in the road of life, and all I can say is think long, hard, and prayerfully, before you decide which one to take. As Led Zep put it: There's still time to change the road you're on.

This doesn't sound like a friend indeed...but definitely a friend in NEED. Unfortunately as someone infinitely wiser put it: "If the blind lead the blind, where will they wind up but in a pit?" You can't save this so-called friend who didn't seem to hesitate in getting you into trouble (assuming that's the "whole" story), so I'll conclude with the advice that it's time you start thinking about saving yourself first.

End of sermon...

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#79 Postby Scorpion » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:46 am

This whole situation just doesn't make sense. I can't believe you're getting kicked out of your house over a harmless drug. You should perhaps report your father to Dept of Children & Families(if they have that in Canada, or something similar). Perhaps you can explain that your friend put it in your backpack, and have your friend verify this.
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#80 Postby MomH » Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:50 am

If you are telling us the complete truth you have another option. Set your parents down in front of your computer and let them read what you have been writing to us on this board. It may convince them that it wasn't your stash.

If you aren't being truthful, I imagine your folks have already suspected it and are doing what they think is needed now.

Now--harsh but true. You didn't listen to the advice you have been getting for the past month. You insisted on handling it your way. Next time you will know better. This time you may have to pay the price.

I'll keep you in my prayers.
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