TV: Lost - Season 6: The Final Season - Premieres Feb. 2nd

[Nimbus]

This last episode with Jin and the French group had an awful lot more time travel flashes. In Jin's world steel guitar strings rust in salt water, helicopter blades are probably made of carbon, and shot husbands stay dead. If Jin picked up his friends at a bar and someone offered him a Heini he would pour it out because he was the designated driver. To get home Jin finds reverse to get out of the parking space and beams his a$$ back to Earth arriving 20 years younger than the people he left behind when he traveled to Vega.

Faraday would probably try and explain the increased frequency of flashes in this episode as the degree of synchronization required for the journey. Its all popcorn to me but you can find all kinds of yummy shipper stuff to flavor it up.

[lurkey]

*hands everyone copies of C.S Lewis' HarperCollins' 2001 single-volume compendium of all seven Narnia novelsand says open to page 316*

http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1550612 ... 45,00.html

The dedication page to Prince Caspian. Go ahead. Take a look.

Yes, I know: PSYCHOPOMP

we have . . .

... psychic hustler Miles Straume (Ken Leung) cradles a shotgun while fretting about — and we think we're getting this right — the catastrophic collapse of the space-time continuum . . .

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. . .Jack ''is fated to do something on the Island, and he has fought that with every fiber of his body, and in doing that, the Island is destroying him from afar'' ...

[lurkey]

Ben is an ass. . . . .

would TSA select you for 2nd-ary screening if you bought 79 seats on a flight to Guam? #LOST #24

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I'm still looking for esoteric clues that could help. The old LA lab was kind of neat. Pendulum that measures earths motion using resonance. lots of calculations. The reference to the three days after the crucifixion.

Not surprised they didn't make it to Guam.

[Miss Mary]

What an excellent episode! So many more new questions...don't read if you haven't watch the episode yet.

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1. Where's Aaron? Hoping Kate gave him to Claire's mother.

2. Why didn't Sun bring her daughter? Was there no time to arrange for her mother to bring her to LA? I wanted this small family to have a proper reunion and they still won't all be together! That's so sad.....

3. Who was Sayid with?

4. Who beat up Ben? (shades of Season 3's Finale? LOL)

5. What did the note say again? "I wish you had believed in me." - JL. My TV screen cut off the last two words but that was probably intentional.

6. Did anyone half expect Locke to sit up when Jack was switching the shoes out? That was creepy! Wouldn't it be difficult to dress a corpse after rigamortice (sp?) has set in?

As you can see, so many questions......

I guess my main one will be the 3 years difference, Jin and group are 3 years behind Jack and group.

Next......

[Squarethecircle]

What I was interested in was Jin's peculiar smile at the end. It seemed kind of knowing, not surprised like he was when he saw Rousseau. Also, this episode had two great lines - Lapidus's line "We aren't going to Guam, are we?" which was great because of the fantastic silence and set up preceding it (as well as Jack's confusion as to why he was even there), and Ben's line after Jack asks him "How can you read?", which he answered, in a very deadpan fashion, "My mother taught me."

This is partially a transitional episode, so it may seem a bit hasty, and the scenes with Hawking are a little bit underdone, but the storyline involving her, Desmond, and Penny should have some interesting follow-up soon (probably related to the blood on Ben's face and his broken arm and cuts). What is unfortunate is that the transition really won't come through until after we learn about Jeremy Bentham, two weeks from now.

[Miss Mary]

I thought Ben's line - my mother taught me - was hilarious! Who knew Ben had a sense of humor? LOL

If Michael Emerson doesn't receive an Emmy nomination after this, I will flood their offices with letters and emails. We all should!

I feel sad today for the children left behind. But one Lost topic on the IMDB board mentioned the dream Kate had of Claire visiting her, saying not to bring Aaron back to the island. So perhaps even though it killed Kate not to bring him, she was honoring Claire's wishes? I just hope she gave him to Claire's mom.

My first thought was when Jin pulled up was - hey, they have gas on the island! So they must be in a time warp.

[O Town]

What an excellent episode! So many more new questions...don't read if you haven't watch the episode yet.
1. Where's Aaron? Hoping Kate gave him to Claire's mother.

I was wondering that too, they did say everyone needed to go back. Hoping shes with Clairs mom as well.

3. Who was Sayid with?

I think he was supposed to be kinda where Kate was on the first flight and the women we never saw before was his officer to make sure he didn'tescape. Sayid could woop that woman even with cuffs on. LOL

4. Who beat up Ben? (shades of Season 3's Finale? LOL)

I want to know too. What loose end did he tie up??

5. What did the note say again? "I wish you had believed in me." - JL. My TV screen cut off the last two words but that was probably intentional.

I thought it just said.....I wish you had believed, JL. Funny how right after he finished reading it is when they plane started to shake.

6. Did anyone half expect Locke to sit up when Jack was switching the shoes out? That was creepy! Wouldn't it be difficult to dress a corpse after rigamortice (sp?) has set in?

Yes, yes, yes. LOL

As you can see, so many questions......

I guess my main one will be the 3 years difference, Jin and group are 3 years behind Jack and group.

Next......

Ding, ding, ding. I didn't think of that, Sun hasn't become pregnant yet, and Erin is still with Claire. I mean Sawyer watched him being born again in the woods. Ah okay that kinda explains why the kids should have been left back other wise it would have messed things up, bigtime.

I am wondering who told Hurley about the flight.....Loche? Since he sees dead people?
Also funny how Sayid was on that exact flight as well but with an officer like they were moving him to Guam.????

Gesh these episodes dont ever seem long enough, lol. I want more!!!

[Miss Mary]

OTown - thank you for helping me with my burning questions!!! I know I'm not alone, you ask yourself one question, which leads to more and more....LOL

Okay, you all have take a few minutes to read this week's TV Guide Lost episode summary. It's GREAT! This reviewer seems to speak for all of us and I found myself cracking up and talking outloud at this computer. No lie!!! LOL

Here it is......enjoy!

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TV Guide

http://www.tvguide.com/Episode-Recaps/L ... 03056.aspx

Lost Episode Recap: "316"
Feb 19, 2009 02:24 AM ET by Mickey O'Connor

Well, we now know how the Oceanic 6 got back to the island, but because this is Lost and not Two and a Half Men, what appears to be the burning question is instantly supplanted by a more complicated one: Why did they go back? While Jack and Sun were already on board with Ben's plan to return, all of a sudden Kate, Sayid and Hurley were all queuing up at the Ajira Airways gate, and we have no idea why. It opens up possibilities in the already-twisty narrative that give us much to anticipate about future episodes.

I won't dwell on my futile Googling for a deeper knowledge of the title of this episode: "316." Suffice it to say that not only is it the area code of Wichita, Kansas, and the year that Constantine attempted to end the schism between the Roman Catholic and Donatist churches (whatever that means), it is also the Ajira flight number... and the number of a very telling Biblical passage, that being John 3:16: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." We'll get to see who Lost's resident Jesus figure is in good time, but in the meantime, Mrs. Hawking has something to tell the Oceanic 6 — and the audience.

WE'RE BAAACK!
The episode opens on a signature tweaky eyeball shot. It's Jack, waking up on the island. At first, it appears to be a flashback to the moments immediately following the original Oceanic crash, but it's quickly established that this is something else entirely, as both Kate and Hurley are there too, under a waterfall. "It really happened," says a groggy Kate, and before we can wrap our heads around exactly what it is, we whoosh back 46 hours and we're on the set of The Da Vinci Code again with Mrs. Hawking.

FIRST DAY OF SCHOOL
I love when the show gives us a different perspective on a scene we've seen before, and a second viewing of the moment when the Oceanic 6 meets Mrs. Hawking reminds me that Desmond's head must be exploding because he's met her before! But no time to dilly-dally, class is in session, and Mrs. H. will not tolerate the interjections of this dilettante.

The room contains a rapidly changing train station-like board that displays measures of longitude and latitude and that intimidating pendulum. Even Ben looks impressed. But don't get distracted by the shiny -- pay attention! -- because while Mrs. Hawking is addressing the Oceanic 6, she's really talking directly to us, the viewers, as one astute colleague pointed out to me.

The Dharma Initiative called it The Lamppost, and indeed its portal bears a Dharma insignia, like it's just another hatch. "This is how they found the island," Hawking explains. The room sits over a unique pocket of electromagnetic energy similar to others all over the world, through which "a very clever fellow" (Alvar Hanso?) realized they had to stop looking for where the island was supposed to be, and start looking for where it was going to be. You see, the island is always moving. "Why do you think you were never rescued?" Hawking purrs. But there are windows of opportunity to get back to the island, and theirs closes in 36 hours.

Desmond is all: You've gotta be effing kidding me, and in short order delivers her the message from Faraday, to which she has little reaction. She tells Desmond that the island isn't done with him yet. "I'm done with the island," he replies, and exits stage left. Desmond's justified tantrum makes me wonder why Sun is so ready to go back, in particular because she has a baby back in Seoul.

After Des storms off, Hawking continues that the Oceanic 6 must replicate the conditions of the original crash as closely as possible on Ajira Airways Flight 316 from Los Angeles to Guam. "It must be that flight, and you must all be on it," she warns. If not, the results would be "unpredictable." But before she sends the class home to pack their "I'm going on vacation FOREVER" bag, Hawking is keeping Jack after school to give him a private extra-credit assignment: He has to give something of his father's to the rotting corpse of John Locke, who will step in to play the role of Dead Christian Shephard in the sequel. She also gives Jack Locke's suicide note, and he's surprised to learn that John hanged himself. Hawking scolds him for his justifiable scoffing at her instructions. "Stop thinking how ridiculous it is, and start asking yourself whether or not you think it's going to work. That's why it's called a leap of faith, Jack," she spits. Were you all paying attention? (The previous message from Mrs. Hawking was approved by Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse.)

Upstairs in the church, a miracle is occurring because Ben is praying and the roof has not caved in. "Who is she? Why is she helping us? Why does she know all this?" a confused Jack asks Ben. Which Ben characteristically non-answers (but answers!) by telling the story of Thomas the Apostle, who earned his "Doubting" nickname because he needed to touch Jesus' crucifixion wounds before he would believe that he was dead. "We're all convinced sooner or later," Ben muses, and announces that he has to see an old friend to tie up some loose ends and that he'll meet him at the airport. Old friend, my foot.

ELDER CARE
There's a quick interlude in which Jack visits his grandfather, Ray, who has attempted to escape from his nursing home for the fourth time. And who can blame him? Magic shows — seriously? When it's my time, take me out back like a can of tuna instead, thanks. The upshot of this conveniently timed meeting is that Jack takes a pair of his father's shoes and heads home.

JATERS, REJOICE!
Back at Casa de Sad Beardo Jack, Jack finds a disheveled Kate asleep on the couch, and all of a sudden she's in the mood for an island vacation. "Where's Aaron?" Jack asks for the audience. "Don't ask me that question again," she says weepily. "If you want me to go with you, then you'll never ask me that question again." The hell? And since we know that Kate responds to stress by initiating angry hate sex (cough, Sawyer in the bear cage, cough), she polishes Jack's tonsils for him, and all is right again with Operation Scary Island II: The Early Years (spoiler alert?).

The next morning, we learn why Christian Shephard was always walking around in old tennis shoes like he just finished painting the garage. It was one last "Sayonara, sucker" from his disappointed son who thought he didn't deserve the black wing tips of rich Corinthian leather that Locke's tootsies will soon enjoy. "Why don't you get rid of them?" Kate asks of the borrowed shoes. "Why do you hold on to something that makes you feel sad?" News flash! The writers are NOT TALKING ABOUT FOOTWEAR, people! Before we can reflect, though, on all the sad things being held on to in this scenario, a bloodied Ben calls from what appears to be a marina. Where they have boats. Like the one that Penny, Demond and baby Charlie (sniff) live on. Hmmm...

Ben's going to be a little late to the airport because apparently someone has whacked him about the face repeatedly with a sock filled with eight rolls of quarters. As a result, Jack will have to take Locke out of the butcher's fridge and check "Jeremy Bentham" in with Ajira. "You wanted me to go back; I'm going back," Jack says, tucking Locke's unopened suicide note into the cadaver's breast pocket.

HOW DID THIS "HAPPEN"?
At the airport, the gang's all here! Kate ignores Jack in the check-in line. Sun sort of not really answers my earlier question and says that if there's a chance that Jin is alive, then she has to be on that plane. But what about the bay-bee, Sun? Mothers in the audience, are you with me on this one? How can she abandon little Ji Yeon?

But hey now, is that Sayid being escorted in handcuffs through security? I thought he said he didn't want to cross paths with these people ever again. And even though he didn't attend Wacky Time Travel-Inducing Plane Crashes 101 class last night with the rest of the gang, he has had the foresight to get arrested and deported (?) so that he can play the role of Kate in the sequel. At the gate, there's Hurley, who — softie that he is — purchased all the remaining seats on the plane so that innocent people could be spared their own existential nightmare redemption journey. Hurley isn't forthcoming about how he got out of the slammer in time to make the flight. "All that matters is that I'm here," he intones solemnly.

TURBULENCE
What's today's in-flight movie, kids? Might I suggest something from The Chronicles of Narnia canon? Hurley has a momentary freak-out when he sees a running-late Ben board the plane, but is quickly reassured. The flight attendant returns to Jack Locke's suicide note, which they discovered in a routine search of his "cargo." Then it's like a normal take-off, and once they reach cruising altitude, the cheery pilot comes on to welcome the worst passenger manifest ever. But what's that? The pilot's name is... Frank J. Lapidus! Thump. I didn't see that coming.

Jack talks to Frank, who, looking around the cabin, sees the rest of the Oceanic 6 and observes, "We're not going to Guam, are we?" Which begs the question: Why didn't they just book a charter and further avoid any "civilian" casualties? Did it have to be a commercial flight in order for the sequel to be a success?

"Did you know that Locke killed himself?" Jack asks Ben, which qualifies as polite chit-chat with this crew. "No, I didn't," Ben replies. If the previews for next week are accurate, his pants are most assuredly inflamed. Jack tells Ben about the suicide note, and Ben offers to give him some privacy so he can — finally! — read the damn thing. "I wish you had believed," the note says, and though it was addressed to Jack and from "JL," it might as well have been a "Dear Thomas" letter. Amirite?

Then... my own personal nightmare, there's really bad turbulence. "Dude, you'd better fasten your seat belt," Hurley says to the Indian (Latino?) man sitting next to him, who appears to be one of only two non-Oceanic 6 passengers on the flight. (The other is the female agent who is escorting the shackled Sayid.) The same guy also offered Jack creepy condolences on the death of his friend at the check-in counter, so he's clearly significant.

FRIEND OF THE DHARMA
Just when we think we're going to see another plane crash, there's a bright light and that stretchy flash noise, and Jack wakes up on the island, back where we started at the beginning of the episode. After gathering Kate and Hurley, and wondering where Sun, Sayid and Ben are, they're greeted by the putt-putt of a very familiar-looking Dharma Initiative VW bus, the Grateful Dead playing from its radio (could anyone ID the song?), which is our cue that it's not the present on the island. Its driver pulls a gun on the trio — island sign language for "hello" — but the absurdity of the number of times these folks have seen the business end of a rifle is supplanted by excitement when we discover that it's Jin! Holy crap! I guess this might explain why Shagaday was working the Dharma electromagnetic salt mines in the season premiere. I can't wait to see what happens next.

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Miss Mary wrote:

5. What did the note say again? "I wish you had believed"

For some reason that reminded me of the old X files series mantra "I want to believe"
Maybe the VW bus Jin drove to the edge of the lagoon reminded me of the X files "lone gunmen" VW bus?

My favorite slogan in the X files series was "the truth shall set you free".

Finding the truth in the Davinci code, now what fun would that be?

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I thought Ben's line - my mother taught me - was hilarious! Who knew Ben had a sense of humor? LOL

Yeah, I thought it was funny, too. But we know that his mother didn't really teach him... she died giving birth to him.

4. Who beat up Ben? (shades of Season 3's Finale? LOL)

I want to know too. What loose end did he tie up??

My heart sank when I saw him all bloody. I think the loose end he tied up was killing Penny. Hopefully, it was only an attempt, but I foresee Desmond going after Ben to avenge her death.

6. Did anyone half expect Locke to sit up when Jack was switching the shoes out? That was creepy! Wouldn't it be difficult to dress a corpse after rigamortice (sp?) has set in?

I know!

I am wondering who told Hurley about the flight.....Loche? Since he sees dead people?
Also funny how Sayid was on that exact flight as well but with an officer like they were moving him to Guam.????

I bet Charlie told Hurley. I don't think that lady is a real officer... I think she's just "playing the part." Sayid = Kate. Hurley = Charlie. Kate = Claire. Ben = Hurley. Locke = Christian. I don't know who is playing the part of Locke, though.
I think we are to assume that Kate got pregnant from Jack last night. Any child of Jack's would also be a child of Christian Shephard, like Aaron is. Ben came running in late, playing the part of Hurley. All very, very strange, yet clever.



*off to read Doc!*

[Miss Mary]

Kelly, I want a link for Doc's take on the episode.

Cindy missed last night's episode. Can someone tell me where you watch, for free and legally? On the network?

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Doc Jensen - http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,1550612_20245769_20259937,00.html
Look around too... lots of LOST stuff there.
I haven't read it yet. I need it to be quiet so I can concentrate. You'll soon see why.


You can watch LOST free and legally on the ABC website. Here's the link: http://abc.go.com/primetime/lost/index?pn=index

Watch LOST Untangled. It's hilarious.

[Miss Mary]

I am going to read all of these links. And try to watch Lost untangled. But I need to log off for a few hours. Dang it!

I'll check in with you all later....as usual, my Thursday thoughts and focus are always on Lost. LOL!

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Yeah, I thought it was funny, too. But we know that his mother didn't really teach him... she died giving birth to him.

The leaving of the womb to enter another world allegory goes back to ancient Greece and beyond.

Its been told over and over again, one of the best reflections IMHO was the '59 movie Ben Hur.

Lots of jigsaw pieces rained down in the last episode and it seems as though Hurley has tried to put some of them together to form base 10 digits for the flight.

ouch my head

4 8 15 16 22.9949 42

[Miss Mary]

2 days until another Lost episode. And we will see who else from Flight 316 has arrived now too. Hoping Frank shows up and Sayid has to land safely too! What about Sun? So many questions........can't wait for the story to play out.

Not to forget Ben.

Where is he? Did he will himself off that plane as it was going down? As if he doesn't have to go thru all of that? LOL I wouldn't be surprised if he had some Lost doohickey in his pocket that transported him directly to the island.....

Ouch my head too......LOL

Gawd almighty, LOVE this show!

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I wouldn't be surprised if he had some Lost doohickey in his pocket

Like some magic legend?

I'm not sure of the storm2k spoiler policy for LOST.

logically from what has been leaked about future episodes we are somewhere back in time, with the davinci code set still in a future episode.

Could the island position be calculated better if there were navigators on it?

Where is it now?

The position of the island in three weeks depends on where it is now and what you are measuring your position by.

Off the top of my head could you find your position using Greek legends and calculate the future position using circumpolar stars?

Any storm2k astronomers going to get off the island?

[Miss Mary]

Okay, sit down everyone.......I know many here have had dreams about Lost. But up until now, this hadn't happened to me.

Until this morning! The alarm went off and I had just be on the island! LOL I swear, it felt so real.......he he

I probably went to sleep thinking - tomorrow's Wednesday, Lost-Day!!!! And of course Jack was in my dream - naturally!!!!! Oh heart be still........he he

Okay, just had to share........

[Miss Mary]

"Getting Lost: with TV Guide's Mitovich (video):

http://www.tvguide.com/video/player.aspx

[Miss Mary]

It's 10:12.....who watched? LOL

What a powerful, confusing episode. No matter how many times they try to make you think Ben is possibly good or does bad things to bring about good, you are constantly reminded that he is EVIL!

What a wicked man.......I've said this before but it's never more true - Michael Emerson deserves an Emmy. Not just a nomination but a win!