Breaking News---American beheaded!

[JQ Public]

Sickening! But two wrongs don't make a right in my opinion. This back and forth S*#& has to and needs to stop.

[chadtm80]

So what do we do JQ? Just say oh well.. Go ahead and Mutilate our guys like you are becuase were not going to do anything about it becuase two wrongs dont make a right?? Do we just politely ask them to stop?? Do we just try to lead by example with them?? Not going to happen

[Lindaloo]

Sickening! But two wrongs don't make a right in my opinion. This back and forth S*#& has to and needs to stop.

The one wrong was abuse the second wrong was slaughter,torture and murder of an American contractor. IMO, the second wrong outweighs the first wrong. They got an apology, do you think we will get one? NO!! So we need to fight fire with fire.

Let's hear your outrage directed toward the masked cowards.

[sunnyday]

What a mess everything is in! This makes me so sad...........

[Lindaloo]

What a mess everything is in! This makes me so sad...........

You voiced your anger at the abuse and now things are just a mess? No outrage over the American that was beheaded today? Just curious!

[sunnyday]

When will I learn? Whatever I say is picked apart here. Yes, I'm outraged. My word choice or anyone else's won't change the huge disaster that this death and all the others are! I really need to stay out of here.

[Rainband]

I hate to say it but it's time to stop being the Nice guy JQ...unfortunately times have changed and we need to do everything and anything in our power to stop these evil people!! ANYTHING!!! We didn't go into their country and kill a bunch of innocent people with airplanes for our god..they attacked us on 911 and we are defending our freedom and liberty by stomping out terrorists. Saddam was one of the biggest if not the biggest supporter and we took him out. Most of the Iraqi people support us. The sad thing is ..WE aren't the ones waging terror around the globe we are there to try and stop it. The funny thing is most countries don't do squat to fight the war on terror but when terrorism strikes...who is the first country they call on. Yes we abused some prisoners...the reservists who served weekend duty in GA or PA away from their families for a short amount of time...now thrust into a situation which they are alien to. Yes they made some bad choices...although under the circumstances..I can't say I wouldn't have...in their place. But in no way can that wrong be compared..equated or equaled to the atrocities inflicted by the cowardess..blinded by hate indocrinated killers That BTW We, The United States of America are trying to protect the free world from

[Lindaloo]

When will I learn? Whatever I say is picked apart here. Yes, I'm outraged. My word choice or anyone else's won't change the huge disaster that this death and all the others are! I really need to stay out of here.

Was not picking it apart by no means. You voiced your outrage whole heartedly when the abuse pics were put out there by the media. I just wanted to hear your outrage in the same way over the horrific death of this contractor.

[sunnyday]

You don't know me well enough to know this, but when I say things are a mess, I mean things couldn't be much worse. That's my term for really bad. I was outraged before because of what some of our soldiers did. Now, I feel even more strongly about this poor guy who was beheaded. This is heartbreaking.

[Stephanie]

Yes it is Sunnyday.

[azskyman]

Sunnyday, how right you are! It is SO very sad.

Those who did this draw more and more power from the emotions they stir. Sadness is one. Hatred is another. Frustration. Anger. Outrage. Those are some others.

They love our confusion. Four weeks ago we were going to take Fallusia at all costs. Since then our President has apologized in the name of higher standards than the rest of the world. His reward was packaged in today's short ugly video.

Meanwhile there is outcry for us to keep our gloves white..our hands clean...our thoughts pure...and our emotions those of a saint. And we expect that not only from those who live in this U.S. of A., but tens of thousands of troops old enough to react quickly and surely, but lacking the understanding of almost all that is happening around them.

Days like this, events like this, quicken the pace of that which will come next. Escalation in emotion is followed by the need to release that energy...take that step...seize that opportunity. That will happen.

The men behind the masks are scared not of beheading the enemy...for that is a ticket to life beyond. But how afraid they are of democracy or life without fear and oppression of one against another. They know not how to live in such a world.

Ironic that we take out Saddam who took out those who might have behaved as such against his regime. Sometimes civil war has a way of changing the weights on the scale.

With mounting pressure to turn over the rule on time in June, the power vaccuum seems imminent...and the leveling of the weights on the scale will surely begin.

The war of wills continues...and each day brings another chapter.

But how sad it is that there are no win-win options on the table right now. It is SO sad Sunnyday...but it is reality.

[Rainband]

Well said!!!!!!

[rainstorm]

Sickening! But two wrongs don't make a right in my opinion. This back and forth S*#& has to and needs to stop.

there is no moral equivilence

[JQ Public]

Sickening! But two wrongs don't make a right in my opinion. This back and forth S*#& has to and needs to stop.

there is no moral equivilence

So what do we do JQ? Just say oh well.. Go ahead and Mutilate our guys like you are becuase were not going to do anything about it becuase two wrongs dont make a right?? Do we just politely ask them to stop?? Do we just try to lead by example with them?? Not going to happen

I am outraged, and i said it was sickening. They are guerilla fighters and we are a civilized nation. There is a big difference. We have to show some restraint. Going over and nuking them will not work. Back when we nuked hiroshima etc...we were one of the few that possessed this technology...now we cannot afford nuking everyone that kills an american w/o risking getting nuked ourselves. I am saying that this is a sick cycle that will only be perpetuated if we don't really try harder. I think we went in with big egos thinking this would be an clean sweep. I can quote folks on here saying this...earlier before the war started. They used to say that we can't over react, afterall, the amount of people that are dying in Iraq can in no way be compared to those in vietnam etc. Now we are realizing that we can't just jump in and be superheroes and be the winners and come out unscathed. I just don't know what everyone expected after the militants saw their naked Iraqis in the prison. I just knew it was gonna be their reaction. It just seems now that America was accused of being uncivil people are jumping onto this murder with extra veracity. I am outraged. I am angered. No one should do this to us. But saying that we can solve the problem with one simple answer is not thinking clearly.

[southerngale]

Seriously, like Johnathan said, don't watch it!! Unless you have seen war or trauma or something strongly similar and know that you can stomach it, it's just not worth the horror. I can't believe there are certain websites that show explicit videos like this that border on pornography because they are so obscene. (I'm not calling the site that Johnathan posted "pornographic," but the ones that archive this crap for people to view regularly are that.)

I didn't post any site

Oops, my bad. Kelly posted it, not you. Sorry, buddy!

Anyway, as I was trying to said, but don't think I made much sense saying it, the site Kelly posted has (had?) it on there for information purposes only. But there are sick sites out there with lots of that stuff archived.

What??? I posted a pornographic link??
Someone gave me the link to the video and I didn't click on it to watch it. I just went to the Northeast Intelligence site.

[GalvestonDuck]

No, no, no, Kelly. It's the archive sites (that focus on nothing but sharing sick videos of death, sex, and a combination of the two) that I consider pornographic IMO. The one you posted was not.

Sorry about the misunderstanding.

[southerngale]

*wipes sweat from brow* Whew!

[PTrackerLA]

I might get flamed for this but I'm going to say it. These people (Iraqi's) don't know how to live democratically. For god sakes they lived under Saddam Hussein. They aren't going to magically change into a democratic society because we want them to, they just flat out think different than we do. I'm not opposing what our gov't has chosen to do but I really don't see any end to all of this besides us just withdrawing our troops and getting the hell out of there. It's really just a sad sad situation.

[Anonymous]

I might get flamed for this but I'm going to say it. These people (Iraqi's) don't know how to live democratically. For god sakes they lived under Saddam Hussein. They aren't going to magically change into a democratic society because we want them to, they just flat out think different than we do. I'm not opposing what our gov't has chosen to do but I really don't see any end to all of this besides us just withdrawing our troops and getting the hell out of there. It's really just a sad sad situation.

That would only make things 10 times worse in the long run. It's time to take care of business.

[azskyman]

I did look at the video. Having a 27-yr-old son of my own, it was especially hard to imagine the horror of it magnified so many times over for his family.

Anyone who compares in any way our behavior against the Iraqi's we hold with the blatant devaluation of human life that this video portrays is missing the fundamental difference between the value systems of a civilized nation and those of a barbaric tribe.

For me, even in this most horrific of acts there was reassurance in knowing that this man no longer suffers at the hands of a murderous mob and that even upon his tragic death his face held a peaceful pose that did not reflect the pain they had hoped to inflict.

May God have mercy on his soul...and may those who inflicted such agony on the hearts of people around the world be held accountable by His hand and not be granted rest nor peace forever more.