Rudeness in schools

[sunnyday]

I don't know if anyone here is employed in a school setting; however, if you are, I would like your feedback on the rudeness and laziness of many of the students (h.s. and college level). Every year, more students want something for nothing. Just recently, I've had 2 students make cruel remarks about me. Thanks for the input.

[TexasStooge]

I don't know if anyone here is employed in a school setting; however, if you are, I would like your feedback on the rudeness and laziness of many of the students (h.s. and college level). Every year, more students want something for nothing. Just recently, I've had 2 students make cruel remarks about me. Thanks for the input.

I'm still a student yet I've already seen too much rudeness from students in HS, Some students tell other people in the lunch lines to "HURRY UP" and act as if we're taking too long, it's not like their seats are going to be taken. Another thing that's rude, talking while the teacher's talking or cussing in front of the staff.

[Miss Mary]

Sunnyday - we've taught our girls that they must respect their teachers. And unless that teacher is truly unfair or unfit to teach (abusive), then we'll support that teacher. In other words - my teacher is so mean.... - usually falls on deaf ears. Nina, 11th Grade/16, is having a very hard time complying with her new Allgebra's teacher's requirements. Let me run these past you......every homework assignment has to be done, checked in class for mistakes and wrong answers/problems have to be completely done over for credit. Same with quizes and tests. If she gets a quiz/test back with wrong answers, she has to rework that problem out completely, until she gets it right. Her teacher knows and we know, that these important steps are critical to moving on with more difficult math problems. This teacher wants the students to demonstrate they know how to do the problem, by doing it. Not just by saying - oh I get it. Won't fly. So for over a month now we have heard from Nina - last year all my Math teacher required was ......... We smile and let her vent, and then quietly say again - Nina, if this teacher is expecting each student to do it this way, then DO IT! We keep explaining that each year thru HS and into college, each teacher will have their own unique ways and it's just best to accept this, meet their requirements and do your best. Unless of course that teacher is abusive or truly out to get my kid. We've never encountered a teacher out to get our kids, thankfully! So that's just one example. Nina has gone to her room many times so mad at us - what does she think I'll do, ask the teacher to give her special considerations? No way! I met this teacher at conference time and I really, really liked her! That doesn't help Nina like me any more, if anything it makes Nina more upset with me - figures, you'd side with the teacher, she groans.

So what I'm trying to say is this - parents today are so blind when it comes to teachers and coaches. I've witnessed such rude behavior with parents on soccer fields, for one example. I've also seen ref's throw parents out of the game! And they were never in the game. Some parents look at teachers much the same way as ref's and coaches - they have little respect for what you do. Me? You have my respect and cooperation! And when the parents don't respect teachers, how are the kids supposed to know or learn they must respect them too?

I'm done. Hang in there. Teaching is so underappreciated.......lean on other teachers for support if you can. They'll know what you're going thru.

Mary

[sunnyday]

Mary and Texas,
Thanks so much for the support. Sometimes, I feel like the Lone Ranger out here. Some of the students are terrific, but as years go by, more and more are horrible! My problem is I take it personally. If they act up in my class, it's an affront to me.
I wish all parents had your attitude, Miss Mary. By the way, I had a wonderful Sunday School teacher when I was little, and her name was Miss Mary. For that reason and for your support, I do appreciate you.

[StormCrazyIowan]

I graduated in 2001, but even then it was awful! The attitudes from all the students would make the teachers upset and then they would become irritable and I felt like I never learned anything because the teacher had to be a babysitter!!! I got so fed up with it I actually dropped out that year, but I realized what a mistake that was and found a school with small class sizes and longer hours and it was so much better! I ended up graduating one B+ shy of Academic Excellence the same year I was supposed to (even though I missed half the year due to dropping out) and I know that wouldn't have happened had I stayed at the school I was in!! I wasn't raised to be disrespectful to ANY adult, and definitely not my teachers, and it make me sick to be on the other side and hear all the comments! Hang in there sunny, and everytime you come across a rude student just shrug it off and teach to the respectful ones who will actually listen! Don't make any exceptions for the lazy ones, life wasn't made for them! If they don't like it tough- they have to grow up sometime!

[stormchazer]

Rude kids are product of rude Parents. My son is 6 and he holds doors open for elders and woman. He better or he will get it from me. Parents have to teach manners by action and instruction.

[StormCrazyIowan]

I couldn't agree more!!

[abajan]

One of my cousins who lives in the U.S once told me that if you wish to go to the bathroom while a class is in session, you just get up and go without asking the teacher.

Another thing I don't understand is when the bell rings signalling the end of a class period, pupils just get up and go without the teacher dismissing the class. At least that's what I see portrayed on pictures on TV. Is that what really happens there? If so, that's incredible! :o

One thing that may instill a sense of pride and discipline is school uniforms. Uniforms tend to make you feel like you're part of something to be proud of.

[abajan]

Rude kids are product of rude Parents. My son is 6 and he holds doors open for elders and woman. He better or he will get it from me. Parents have to teach manners by action and instruction.

Well stated. I couldn't agree more. And I don't know if by "he will get it from me" you mean scolding or hitting but sometimes (contrary to what many modern day psychologists will tell you) corporal punishment is required. IMHO there are way too many states with stupid laws about not hitting children. Let's be honest, there are some kids that simply won't hear what you say until they feel a good solid hand on their rear! Don't get me wrong here, I'm not advocating gratuitious brutality because there are some parents that take things way too far and are just downright cruel. But there are a few times when a firm hand is required.

P.S. You must be quite proud of your son. He's one in a million.

[sunnyday]

You guys are great! This is the first time I've felt encouraged in a good while. I may not have mentioned this, but I teach at a community college and have rude students who are supposed to be 'adults'. One of them said I was ugly a few weeks ago, and another insulted me this week. When I was in college, we respected the professors and even feared them and would not have dared to do anything in their classes except work hard! One woman threatened me a few years ago.
Most of the time, the students are not that bad, but every year, I see more problem students. I love teaching and resent having to babysit or take insults from students who have no idea of how to behave.
Really, please accept my thanks for the encouragement. Bless you all.

[Skywatch_NC]

It's hard to believe that parents are even filing lawsuits now-a-days for when their kids are disciplined in school...namely the ole' standby: Applying the "Board of Education" to their rear ends! That form of punishment doesn't occur anymore in the school systems...one reason why kids get out of control!

Eric

[streetsoldier]

Here, Skywatch_NC, it is the opposite; if parents employ any corporal discipline, they can and will be prosecuted for child abuse...yet, at the same time, the school district retains the absolute "right" to employ a paddle(!) for any "offense", even if the child is an adult (17 or over, high school juniors and seniors), including young women.

And parents have NO recourse in curtailing this "power" at all.

[Amanzi]

Rude kids are product of rude Parents. My son is 6 and he holds doors open for elders and woman. He better or he will get it from me. Parents have to teach manners by action and instruction.

Well stated. I couldn't agree more. And I don't know if by "he will get it from me" you mean scolding or hitting but sometimes (contrary to what many modern day psychologists will tell you) corporal punishment is required. IMHO there are way too many states with stupid laws about not hitting children. Let's be honest, there are some kids that simply won't hear what you say until they feel a good solid hand on their rear! Don't get me wrong here, I'm not advocating gratuitious brutality because there are some parents that take things way too far and are just downright cruel. But there are a few times when a firm hand is required.

P.S. You must be quite proud of your son. He's one in a million.

I agree whole hearteldy with you guys! There is nothing worse than a rude child next to a rude adult!
Sunnyday you hang in there! Like Jackie said you have to teach the teachable ones and ignore the morons. Im sure this is not easy when your being personally insulted. Teachers have the most important jobs in the world, next to being a parent, and my children will for sure learn that lesson.

It must be hard for you Im sure... If I was you, I would pray for tough skin and patience (hang Im just a parent and those are my daily requests)

[JCT777]

I may not have mentioned this, but I teach at a community college and have rude students who are supposed to be 'adults'. One of them said I was ugly a few weeks ago, and another insulted me this week. When I was in college, we respected the professors and even feared them and would not have dared to do anything in their classes except work hard! One woman threatened me a few years ago.

Keep up the great work, sunnyday. Teaching is very important, and it is a shame that there are students who act like that. It seems the older I get, the more I notice how many people under the age of 21 have little or no respect for their elders. I was taught to respect everyone, but it seems far too many young people respect no one.

[opera ghost]

One of my cousins who lives in the U.S once told me that if you wish to go to the bathroom while a class is in session, you just get up and go without asking the teacher.

Another thing I don't understand is when the bell rings signalling the end of a class period, pupils just get up and go without the teacher dismissing the class. At least that's what I see portrayed on pictures on TV. Is that what really happens there? If so, that's incredible! :o

One thing that may instill a sense of pride and discipline is school uniforms. Uniforms tend to make you feel like you're part of something to be proud of.

Well it all depends on the school-

My high school we had to be excused from class with a note to let us into the halls to go to the bathroom while class was in session- and teachers usually told us to just hold it (classes were about an hour long)

When the bell rang to signal the end of class you had 6 min to make it to your next class. Period. If your teacher continued to teach past the bell and you stayed- you could be punished in your next class for being tardy... and I went to school in 3 buildings- one with 3 floors and 3 hallways, and the other two with two floors and a hallway. Getting across campus with the slow moving crowds could easily take the entire between class period. I split my day into 2 halves- I carried 4 books in the morning and 4 in the afternoon- only able to stop at my locker at lunch, and bathroom breaks only at 2 classes because they were close to the bathrooms.

So when the bell rang- I got my butt out of my chair and I was booking it across school to try to beat the crowds. It was like rush hour on a highway- if you clip out of work even a few seconds early you'd miss the worst of it. I never waited for a teacher to dismiss me... When the bell rang I WAS dismissed And the teachers knew it...

It could be considered rude... But the teachers were aware of the time limits- and usually the ones who kept teaching after the bell were the same ones who threw fits if you weren't in your seat and ready when the bell rang for class to begin. I wasn't about to risk getting in trouble just for the sake of politeness.

My high school was very crowded though- part of a major metro and a school that kids and parents tried to get thier kids into.

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As for rudeness- I agree! It's taken over our society!