Homosexual student expelled from Christian school

sunnyday · #1 Postby **sunnyday** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:22 pm

Did anyone happen to catch GMA yesterday? A Christian school in Fl. expelled a boy who confided to his teacher that he was homosexual. The teacher reported it to the administration, and now the boy is out of the school. Any feelings on this?

GalvestonDuck · #2 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:33 pm

From what I understand, the teacher took him aside and asked him if he was gay. Now, just what did the teacher have to gain by asking him that? Nothing, as far as I can tell, unless he/she had ulterior motives. Don't ask, don't tell...right? He is 18 and he would have been graduating soon. Nothing good could have been gained by this.

Then again, it is a private school, not a public school. If the school has an outlined policy regarding gay students, they might be off the hook. Florida is not known as a state with specific anti-discrimination policies regarding sexual orientation. Rosie O'Donnell talked about that when she went public about her sexuality, in an effort to a gay couple who wanted to adopt kids. But then again, Florida is also home to Walt Disney World, which is a gay-friendly workplace.

opera ghost · #3 Postby **opera ghost** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 5:39 pm

Yep- I've got a feeling this could be a praticularily explosive subject. :wink:

Personally- I think it's an utter shame that he was expelled. By the same token- I don't have all the information so the only thing I could comment on is the discrimination of gays in relation to religion and schools. I think it's awful to discriminate for something that I believe *** is genetic. However if they have an excess of elgible candidates the school should be free to choose candidates who encoumpass the majority of the beliefs of the religion that is being taught... of which homosexuality may not be acceptable.

*** Your mileage may vary, Personal belief is only opinion and is subject to change at will, this post subject to bouts of opinion which should not be misconstrued as fact, I do not speak for any party or particular group of people, and I DIDN'T DO IT!

JetMaxx · #4 Postby **JetMaxx** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:11 pm

IMO If the student wasn't violating any school rules....I don't think an admission of homosexuality was justification to kick him out. I also question why a teacher would call any student aside and ask them a question pertaining to their sexual preference...UNLESS the they saw him violate a school regulation that raised suspicion (i.e. - harrassing other male students). I'm as straight as they come, and would have been very offended if a teacher had asked me that question in high school.

mf_dolphin · #5 Postby **mf_dolphin** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:36 pm

The issue seems to be that the student was in violation of school policy. Since it's a private school, they have the right to set standards and rules and enforce them. Whether I agree with these particular rules is immaterial lol IMO, this is the same issue as Augusta National. They have the right to admit women or not.

Rainband · #6 Postby **Rainband** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 7:56 pm

mf_dolphin wrote:The issue seems to be that the student was in violation of school policy. Since it's a private school, they have the right to set standards and rules and enforce them. Whether I agree with these particular rules is immaterial lol IMO, this is the same issue as Augusta National. They have the right to admit women or not.

I agree...but if they are going to expell him because he's gay..then the rules need to change Maybe thats why they want an all gay school :?:

Sad thats teens have to fear how they were born and who they are

Derek Ortt · #7 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:04 pm

If homosexuality was not a choice, why would God make it a sin?

Rainband · #8 Postby **Rainband** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:09 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:If homosexuality was not a choice, why would God make it a sin?

It has been proven..that your born gay..why would anyone choose a life of persecution???? :roll:

There was a post on here about it..being proven ask galveston duck for the link :wink:

opera ghost · #9 Postby **opera ghost** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:10 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:If homosexuality was not a choice, why would God make it a sin?

Difference in philosophies Mr. Ortt... strictly a difference in philosophies.

I don't believe it's a sin- and I don't believe it is choice. IF I believed it was a sin- my rather hopeful brain would automatically categorize it as a choice because I want to believe we've all got the choices to not sin.

Fortunetly I don't have that internal battle raging since I don't have conflicting beliefs! :wink:

Derek Ortt · #10 Postby **Derek Ortt** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:11 pm

I dont care what some devil worshipping scientist says, a person can control ones actions. I assume that the bible is wrong then, since a sin is because of one's free will. Never knew Christianity was wrong

Yes, I am a fundamentalist Christian who is very strong in his views

rainstorm · #11 Postby **rainstorm** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:13 pm

interesting debate. we need more private schools.

Rainband · #12 Postby **Rainband** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:15 pm

opera ghost wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:If homosexuality was not a choice, why would God make it a sin?

Difference in philosophies Mr. Ortt... strictly a difference in philosophies. I don't believe it's a sin- and I don't believe it is choice. IF I believed it was a sin- my rather hopeful brain would automatically categorize it as a choice because I want to believe we've all got the choices to not sin.

Fortunetly I don't have that internal battle raging since I don't have conflicting beliefs!

Thanks OG and btw Derrick I am GAY and it's not a choice and believe me I am not a sinner..no matter what any of you want to believe. I have no problem facing my maker :wink:

Judging something YOU know nothing about is a sin IMHO..plain and simple.

opera ghost · #13 Postby **opera ghost** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:17 pm

Not sure if that was to me or not *scratches head* I thought I was being perfectly agreeable with you rainband.... 8-)

Rainband · #14 Postby **Rainband** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:24 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I dont care what some devil worshipping scientist says, a person can control ones actions. I assume that the bible is wrong then, since a sin is because of one's free will. Never knew Christianity was wrong

Yes, I am a fundamentalist Christian who is very strong in his views

I will pray for you :wink:

opera ghost · #15 Postby **opera ghost** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:37 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:I dont care what some devil worshipping scientist says, a person can control ones actions. I assume that the bible is wrong then, since a sin is because of one's free will. Never knew Christianity was wrong

Yes, I am a fundamentalist Christian who is very strong in his views

*tips hat to Mr. Ortt* I believe this is where we agree to disagree

I also tend to agree that we should have more private schools- or that we should raise the bar on public schools. I was raised straight public- my husband half private schooling and he got the better early education hands down. My children will go to private schools for at least the first 6 years (K-5)- strictly because that gives me more choice in chosing the slant of my childrens education and private schools are often better able to tailor classes to the enrolled children.

chadtm80 · #16 Postby **chadtm80** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:46 pm

It has been proven..that your born gay..why would anyone choose a life of persecution???? There was a post on here about it..being proven ask galveston duck for the link

I would be interested in seeing that as well.. How on earth can you be born gay? Dont know that I buy that one.... However it is everyones own choice. Dont understand why it bothers everyone so much though. What is it hurting you if some guy likes another guy? and so what if it is a sin.. WTH should you care, its not you... To each his own.

BTW, I agree with marshall on the suspension issue.. Its a private school, and its there rules.. What about the school that just opened up in New York for Gays only?? Is that ok, but this isnt?

Rainband · #17 Postby **Rainband** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 9:54 pm

WHY WOULD ANYONE CHOOSE TO BE HATED

sunnyday · #18 Postby **sunnyday** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:03 pm

Rainband,
I do agree with you. I don't think it's a choice at all. I, for one, do not dislike gay people. I accept everyone as he is, and I would like for others to do the same for me. Keep your chin up......

Toni - 574 · #19 Postby **Toni - 574** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:06 pm

mf_dolphin wrote:The issue seems to be that the student was in violation of school policy. Since it's a private school, they have the right to set standards and rules and enforce them. Whether I agree with these particular rules is immaterial lol IMO, this is the same issue as Augusta National. They have the right to admit women or not.

OMG Marshall, I agree with you... :eek:

mf_dolphin · #20 Postby **mf_dolphin** » Thu Oct 30, 2003 10:18 pm

As far as scientific proof that people are born gay, there is no such proof that has been accepted by the scientific community as a whole as far as I know. I personally have to problem understanding that there may be a genetic trait that may lean someone toward a homosexual tendancy. However, to say that all homosexuals are genetically controlled is just not accurate either. For some it's a phase and can be sparked by curiosity, rebellion or any number of factors. Whatever the reason, what goes on in a bedrom between 2 consenting adults is there own business and between them and their maker. I have enough to worry about in my life to be try and control someone else's :-)

Let's get back on the topic....which was about a Christian School banning a gay student. The facts are that most Christian's do not accept homosexuality as "normal". Right, wrong or indifferent that's a fact. I have no problem with a Christian school enforcing a code of conduct that adheres to their beliefs. Freedom of religion and the fact that they are a private school gives them that right.

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