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Gore to Warn of Global Warming on NYC's Coldest Day in 10+Yr

#1 Postby southerngale » Thu Jan 15, 2004 3:33 am

ROFL!! :lol:
Sorry, I don't "buy" global warming.



GORE TO WARN OF 'GLOBAL WARMING' ON NEW YORK CITY'S COLDEST DAY IN DECADE!

In what political watchers are calling possibly the biggest gaffe in years, former Vice President Al Gore is set to give a speech tomorrow on the perils of global warming -- on what is expected to be the coldest day in New England in nearly half a century!

Against the advice of senior advisers, Gore is planning to appear at the historic Beacon Theatre in Manhattan on Thursday to issue an indictment of the Bush administration's "inaction on global warming."

Gore will make the warming case on a day forecasters are predicting the coldest temps in Boston since 1957, with wind chills in parts of New England plunging to 100 degrees below zero!

Even though forecasters predict Thursday night will bring the coldest temperature reading in New York City in more than 10 years [1 degree above zero], sources tell the DRUDGE REPORT that Gore is determined to deliver the speech* -- hoping to make the case how "Global warming" is actually the cause of the record cold snap!

"The extreme conditions are actually the end result of the planet warming," Gore has told advisers, sources say, in explaining his motivations. "The Bush policies are leading to weather extremes."

Sources would not say whether the speech is to be given outdoors.



source: http://www.drudgereport.com/agwarm.htm

*Gore is determined to deliver the speech: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/040108/nyth176_1.html


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#2 Postby Anonymous » Thu Jan 15, 2004 4:54 am

LOL what bad timing :lol:

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#3 Postby rainstorm » Thu Jan 15, 2004 6:53 am

the politics of global warming:

Massive extinction of logic


By Patrick J. Michaels



Much has been made of a paper published on Jan. 8 in the journal Nature by Chris Thomas and 18 co-authors, claiming global warming will cause a massive extinction of the Earth's biota. Mr. Thomas told The Washington Post: "We're talking about 1.25 million species. It's a massive number."
It turns out that there is a massive number of glaring problems with their study that clearly eluded the peer review process. This is evinced by the rapid turnaround for the manuscript, with acceptance in final form a mere five weeks after original submission. No one can clear revisions through 19 authors in that time unless there weren't many revisions suggested, or, if there were, they were ignored by the journal's editors in a rush to publication.
In fact, acrimonious debates about what should or should not be published about global warming are the rule rather than the exception, simply because papers are being published — on many sides of the issue — that can be shredded after only a cursory review. Unfortunately, the debate may have started with Nature itself.
In 1996, conveniently a day before the U.N. conference that gave birth to the Kyoto Protocol, Nature published a paper purporting to match observed temperature with computer models of disastrous warming. It used weather balloon data from 1963 through 1987. The actual record, however, extended (then) from 1958 through 1995, and, when all the data were used, the troubling numbers disappeared. Since that famous incident, people have been very leery of what major scientific journals publish on global warming. The Thomas extinction paper only throws more fuel on an already roaring inferno.
The work of Mr. Thomas et al. is an interesting exercise in computer modeling showing again that what comes out of a computer is a product of the assumptions that go in. The scientists examined the distribution of more than 1,000 plants and animal species, calculated their current climatic range, and then used a climate model to determine whether the amount of land the species could occupy in the future would shrink or expand. If there was a likely shrinkage, the researchers expected an increased chance of extinction.
Fair enough. But this assumes climate change is the sole driver of changes in biodiversity, which is hardly true. Consider the effects on an ecosystem of the mutation of some previously harmless bacterium, a clearly nonclimatic cause of extinction. The plethora of factors that influence ecosystems, besides climate, determine the composition of the community. In fact, placing all the onus for extinction on climate also calls the entire dramatic result into question.
Their lowest scenario for warming is bounded at 0.8 degree Celsius in the next 50 years, and produces an extinction of roughly 20 percent of the sampled species.
There's a convenient reality check available. That's because surface temperatures indeed have risen this amount in the last 100 years. But there is absolutely no evidence for massive climate-related extinctions. (One would think the reviewers at Nature would have picked that up.)
There are several other major problems:
• Global climate models, in general, predict a warmer surface and an increased rate of rainfall. As long as there is adequate moisture, the most diverse ecosystems on Earth are in the warmest regions, the tropical rainforest being the prime example. Consequently, the general character of future climate is one which is more, not less hospitable for biodiversity.
* Temperatures have been bouncing up and down a lot more than 0.8 degrees Celsius during the past several hundred thousand years. The published methodology implies there are large extinctions for each and every increment of equivalent change, whether the temperature goes up or down. Applying this method to all those changes would make extinct just about every species on Earth.
• Species often thrive well outside their gross climatic "envelope." The U.S. Agriculture Department has mapped the distribution of all major tree species in North America. For almost every species, there are separate "disjunct" populations far away from the main climatic distribution. A fine example is the Balsam fir, Abies balsamea, whose main distribution is across Canada. But there is a tiny fir forest, a relic of the Ice Age, still standing in eastern Iowa, hundreds of miles south (and about 10 degrees warmer) than the climatic "envelope" people normally assume to circumscribe its distribution. These disjuncts are the rule, not the exception, in nature, and are one reason why the most diverse ecosystem on Earth — the tropical rainforest — managed to survive the Ice Age.
* Perhaps most egregious, this work makes what the famed agronomist Paul Waggoner has called the "dumb people" assumption: that people won't adapt to changing conditions. In fact, we have been preserving diversity artificially, in parks and zoos, for centuries. In addition, the amount of "artificial" genetic diversity is rising dramatically with the technology of modern genetics. It is difficult to imagine, decades from now, that these technologies would not be applied to ameliorate a prospective massive extinction.
Obviously, there is a lot to criticize in this paper. What is surprising is that something with so many inconsistencies and unrealistic assumptions made it unscathed through the review process in such a prestigious journal as Nature. The politicization of scientific papers on global warming and the tendency of science journals to rush to judgment have to end.
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#4 Postby j » Thu Jan 15, 2004 8:28 am

hee hee ho ho..I wonder if algore will show up wearing his bermudas??
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#5 Postby southerngale » Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:34 pm

j wrote:hee hee ho ho..I wonder if algore will show up wearing his bermudas??

LOL!! Probably!
Everyone who talked about this on the news this morning could not help but giggle. :lol:
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#6 Postby Lindaloo » Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:35 pm

Gore... what does he know? lol.
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#7 Postby j » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:18 pm

if he was smart he would have never have shaved off that Grissly Adams beard. He might be needing it to keep his baby face warm.
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#8 Postby rainstorm » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:30 pm

and he picked the coldest day of the year in New York City to do it. The purpose of Al Gore's speech in NYC today is to slam Bush for his "inaction" on global warming. Gore isn't going to be deterred by the fact that the temperature in New York is supposed to be the coldest in ten years .. 1 degree above zero. In fact, he's reportedly going to make the case that this cold weather is actually caused by global warming which, of course, is caused by George Bush.

We're not going to go through the evidence again here ... suffice it to say that there is absolutely no scientific evidence out there which shows that any measurable increase in the temperature of the earth's atmosphere is being caused by the actions of man. There is evidence, however, strong scientific evidence, that sunspot and other activity has actually been making the surface of the son hotter for quite some time. Evidently liberals and anti-capitalist eco-radicals aren't able to make the rational connection between a hotter sun and a hotter earth. Why blame it on the sun when you have such a good opportunity to slam capitalism and slow down America's industrial machine?
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#9 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:34 pm

Heck, there's no scientific evidence to blame hot weather, cold weather, snow, hurricanes, or my allergies on George Bush. Gore is a goon.
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#10 Postby southerngale » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:37 pm

rainstorm wrote:and he picked the coldest day of the year in New York City to do it. The purpose of Al Gore's speech in NYC today is to slam Bush for his "inaction" on global warming. Gore isn't going to be deterred by the fact that the temperature in New York is supposed to be the coldest in ten years .. 1 degree above zero. In fact, he's reportedly going to make the case that this cold weather is actually caused by global warming which, of course, is caused by George Bush.

We're not going to go through the evidence again here ... suffice it to say that there is absolutely no scientific evidence out there which shows that any measurable increase in the temperature of the earth's atmosphere is being caused by the actions of man. There is evidence, however, strong scientific evidence, that sunspot and other activity has actually been making the surface of the son hotter for quite some time. Evidently liberals and anti-capitalist eco-radicals aren't able to make the rational connection between a hotter sun and a hotter earth. Why blame it on the sun when you have such a good opportunity to slam capitalism and slow down America's industrial machine?
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ROFL!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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#11 Postby j » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:41 pm

and...not to mention that even the doomsday prophets who claim we are going to fry, are using records that reflect a microscopic portion of time to make predictions.
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#12 Postby rainstorm » Thu Jan 15, 2004 2:56 pm

January 15, 2004, 2:21 PM EST

NEW YORK -- Former Vice President Al Gore on Thursday blasted President Bush as a "moral coward," saying he abandoned the public interest to accommodate his financial contributors.

Gore, in a speech before a full house at the Beacon Theater in Manhattan, said it sometimes appeared that "the Bush-Cheney administration is wholly owned by the coal, oil, utility and mining industries."

It was the latest in a series of harsh critiques from Gore on the Bush administration. The ex-Democratic presidential candidate, who lost the 2000 election to Bush, had previously accused the administration of cracking down on civil liberties since the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and mishandling post-war Iraq.

Gore, speaking on a bitterly cold day, addressed the issues of global warming and the administration's environmental policies.

"While President Bush likes to project an image of strength and courage, the real truth is that in the presence of his large financial contributors, he is a moral coward," said Gore.

His appearance was co-sponsored by moveon.org, a Washington-based online liberal activist group, and Environment 2004.

he made these remarks in front of a huge banner with a nuclear mushroom cloud on it. by the way, MOVEON.ORG IS FINANCED BY GEORGE SOROS, who has referred to bush as a nazi
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