For the women.....Hair questions!
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For the women.....Hair questions!
Well, I did it - I finally decided to get a new cut/bob and it's cut intentionally to go up or under. Ends are point cut and very notched out. When I left the salon, some ends were flipping up (I don't get a blowdry, otherwise the bill is double!), so I washed it again. But I couldn't get all of the areas to flip. Some were doing what I wanted, some areas weren't! Frustrating....it's like learning to use a blowdryer all over again. Since we had a school concert tonight, I couldn't go to it looking like that! Yikes. My daughter Laura said it looked like I just rolled out of bed. I'm sure like look is great on a young guy, but not a mom, who's uh, well, 48....LOL So I washed it again (third wash of the day) and turned it all under, my comfort zone. I could do this under thing blindfolded! It actually looked better than my old bob. So it's nice to know it can go up or under.
Okay all of that said, tomorrow is the day I'm going to try this new-do again. A hair magazine I have said I need to blowdry it almost dry. Put mud or wax on the ends. Then use a flat iron. I want the "turned out" look, not a real flip up. Just a bent out or going up slightly look.
Questions:
1. What product specifically will wet or coat the ends, to make them go out or slightly bend up? I need names, all I've ever used is mousse and pommade (to piece sections out).
2. Do you use a flat iron on completely dry hair? Or is the correct way to straighten it flat or out on damp hair, with product applied? If so, tell me the product I use!
3. Can I get a scrunched/wet look with this cut (it's to my chin on the front and sides, with choppy bangs, back an inch longer, but choppy too). If so, do I use gel or mousse to get that semi-wet scrunched look?
I can see I'll need to play around with this cut. I am happy with it though. Last year I went to my old hairdresser asking for a new cut/change and he scalped me! I was so upset I didn't get it trimmed for 4 months. This new cut I'm very happy with though. I just need "Turned Out 101" suggestions!!!!
Thanks girls!!! Now you guys be nice (j, this means you....LOL, I know, I know your wife spends a bundle on hair care)!
Mary
Okay all of that said, tomorrow is the day I'm going to try this new-do again. A hair magazine I have said I need to blowdry it almost dry. Put mud or wax on the ends. Then use a flat iron. I want the "turned out" look, not a real flip up. Just a bent out or going up slightly look.
Questions:
1. What product specifically will wet or coat the ends, to make them go out or slightly bend up? I need names, all I've ever used is mousse and pommade (to piece sections out).
2. Do you use a flat iron on completely dry hair? Or is the correct way to straighten it flat or out on damp hair, with product applied? If so, tell me the product I use!
3. Can I get a scrunched/wet look with this cut (it's to my chin on the front and sides, with choppy bangs, back an inch longer, but choppy too). If so, do I use gel or mousse to get that semi-wet scrunched look?
I can see I'll need to play around with this cut. I am happy with it though. Last year I went to my old hairdresser asking for a new cut/change and he scalped me! I was so upset I didn't get it trimmed for 4 months. This new cut I'm very happy with though. I just need "Turned Out 101" suggestions!!!!
Thanks girls!!! Now you guys be nice (j, this means you....LOL, I know, I know your wife spends a bundle on hair care)!
Mary
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I'll be looking forward to replies too, Mary! Mine is long and straight with bangs and that's about it.
I got it cut before Christmas in a Courtney Cox 'do that my best friend saw in a magazine. It looked great because it was layered and shaped a bit more. But I haven't had it cut in a while so it's back to long and straight.
I had a perm about a year or so ago. I'm just not patient enough to sit there, getting all those stupid things rolled with my hair pulled halfway out of my scalp. It takes forever!
I can't stand short hair on me. I've only had it short a couple of times in my life. It's just not my style. Gotta have hair -- "Gimme a head with hair, long beautiful hair, shining, gleaming, steaming, flaxen, waxen, give me down to there, hair!
Shoulder length, longer hair!"
I got it cut before Christmas in a Courtney Cox 'do that my best friend saw in a magazine. It looked great because it was layered and shaped a bit more. But I haven't had it cut in a while so it's back to long and straight.
I had a perm about a year or so ago. I'm just not patient enough to sit there, getting all those stupid things rolled with my hair pulled halfway out of my scalp. It takes forever!
I can't stand short hair on me. I've only had it short a couple of times in my life. It's just not my style. Gotta have hair -- "Gimme a head with hair, long beautiful hair, shining, gleaming, steaming, flaxen, waxen, give me down to there, hair!
Shoulder length, longer hair!"

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Shawn - I had hair down to my waist in my teen years, part down the middle, boring-boring. Look thru any 70s yearbook back then, and all the girls wore their hair usually this way! In my 20s I went shorter but like you I've preferred shoulder length hair. Sometime after having kids I went to the bob look. So I like to think it isn't short but to someone with your hair length, it would look short. I was miserable last summer when my old hairdresser took it so short - sides were above my ears! I nearly cried!
My favorite Courteney Cox cut was in the season Monica was dating Richard. Monica and Ross give Richard 'a ride' to their dad's surprised birthday party. Remember Monica was the twinkie? Anyway, I loved her cut - a bob, but irregular jagged sides and pieces. All of it bending forward to frame her face. So cute. Until recently, I could never find a picture of her like this. So I could have gone to this look. I am saving that picture though - we bought several Friends collector's magazines last week. And all seasons are featured. First thing I said when I bought it - and this is my favorite CC look!
Mary
My favorite Courteney Cox cut was in the season Monica was dating Richard. Monica and Ross give Richard 'a ride' to their dad's surprised birthday party. Remember Monica was the twinkie? Anyway, I loved her cut - a bob, but irregular jagged sides and pieces. All of it bending forward to frame her face. So cute. Until recently, I could never find a picture of her like this. So I could have gone to this look. I am saving that picture though - we bought several Friends collector's magazines last week. And all seasons are featured. First thing I said when I bought it - and this is my favorite CC look!
Mary
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My hair is verrrry long too, to my bum almost! LOL, I decided I had too many bangs, so I started barretting some of them back, and now those ones fall to my chin and the rest are right at my eyebrows, I like it like that!
As far as your hairstyle, short hair is not my thing, but I do know a little bit about styling! First of all, I use "the wet look" on my hair all the time, it just barely scrunches because it is so long and heavy, but it still looks nice, that is how my hair is right now actually! I prefer mousse over gel anyday, I think it holds better and looks less greasy!
About the flipping out, I'm not sure about which products are best for that but i can tell you this- I use a prouct called AmPro ProStyle in my hair; it is a protein gel (you'll find it in the ethnic hair section and it is not pricy at all!) and I kid you not, this stuff does wonders for my hair! I towel dry my hair a bit, and brush thru it, and as it is still damp I use just a little (a little goes a long way!) and I start at the roots and just smooth it through my hair, use a little more for the ends, and my hair ends up smooth and shiny once it is dry! I would almost suggest using some of that to try your style- towel dry your hair just enough so that it's damp, and use it, and then blow dry however you normally do, and see how it works out!
As far as your hairstyle, short hair is not my thing, but I do know a little bit about styling! First of all, I use "the wet look" on my hair all the time, it just barely scrunches because it is so long and heavy, but it still looks nice, that is how my hair is right now actually! I prefer mousse over gel anyday, I think it holds better and looks less greasy!
About the flipping out, I'm not sure about which products are best for that but i can tell you this- I use a prouct called AmPro ProStyle in my hair; it is a protein gel (you'll find it in the ethnic hair section and it is not pricy at all!) and I kid you not, this stuff does wonders for my hair! I towel dry my hair a bit, and brush thru it, and as it is still damp I use just a little (a little goes a long way!) and I start at the roots and just smooth it through my hair, use a little more for the ends, and my hair ends up smooth and shiny once it is dry! I would almost suggest using some of that to try your style- towel dry your hair just enough so that it's damp, and use it, and then blow dry however you normally do, and see how it works out!
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Miss Mary, I got mine cut, a while back, in a
style that is short in back (to the nap of my
neck), then it gets longer around to the front...
wispy bangs included (gotta have bangs for my
tall forehead). Now, my hair is very straight, and,
very fine - forget curl and thickness! I use KMS
Hair Play Root Lift, sprayed into the roots before
I blow-dry. Then, when I add curl/flip, I use
Redken Spray Starch - yes, spray starch!! You
can get your hair do do WHATEVER, with that
stuff!
Of course, then, I spray it, like a
mad woman! Give the Redken a try, and,
see how that works for you!
style that is short in back (to the nap of my
neck), then it gets longer around to the front...
wispy bangs included (gotta have bangs for my
tall forehead). Now, my hair is very straight, and,
very fine - forget curl and thickness! I use KMS
Hair Play Root Lift, sprayed into the roots before
I blow-dry. Then, when I add curl/flip, I use
Redken Spray Starch - yes, spray starch!! You
can get your hair do do WHATEVER, with that
stuff!

mad woman! Give the Redken a try, and,
see how that works for you!
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Miss Mary.... to get that flipped out look the hair must be completely dry. There is some type of spray gel that you can get at Sally's beauty supply. Spray that on the ends of the hair then take the iron, come straight down almost to the end then lift the hair. I watched my hairdresser do this same thing Wednesday to one of her customers. Very cute cut.
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Jackie and Annette - thank you both so much. Going to write down those product names. I didn't have time yesterday to work on the turned out look. So again it went under. Sigh, I picked a very busy time of year to do this!!! January would have been a better time......LOL But you know how it is, summer is around the corner and you want a new style/look. I'm not into sprays and gels, never have been much. I was really hoping the ends would have been cut in such a way, it would naturally turn out or slightly up. Can see now I will have to manipulate this style. Dang!!! Nina's flip up look was so easy to care for! But it was 3 or 4 inches longer than my cut, that's the difference I imagine - she had weight and different texture. My hair is thick and straight. I'll keep trying but I may just have to stick to my messy/semi-straight point cut bobs from now on..... So many people tell me they love my hairstyle. And you know how it is too - the grass is always greener on the other side. You think you want that look but in reality, people really like my hair cut into a bob. My one sister-in-law has said for years she wished she had my texture and be able to do a 10 minute blowdry. And be done. Sometimes you have to try something new to appreciate what you did have!!!
Not saying I won't keep at this since it is cut to go up too, but I can also seeing me going back to my old bob in 4 weeks too. At least it wasn't a HUGE change - like a perm!!!!! I had a body perm in the 80s - OMG, I was miserable. My hairdresser told me it would make styling my hair easier - awful advice! It added 30 minutes to my routine. I eventually pulled it out with 3 Henna treatments, one a week until it was almost back to normal again. When I went in for a trim, she asked - what did you do....LOL Good old Henna....I used to use that stuff for years, before the gray came in.
Well, thanks again girls!!!
Mary
Not saying I won't keep at this since it is cut to go up too, but I can also seeing me going back to my old bob in 4 weeks too. At least it wasn't a HUGE change - like a perm!!!!! I had a body perm in the 80s - OMG, I was miserable. My hairdresser told me it would make styling my hair easier - awful advice! It added 30 minutes to my routine. I eventually pulled it out with 3 Henna treatments, one a week until it was almost back to normal again. When I went in for a trim, she asked - what did you do....LOL Good old Henna....I used to use that stuff for years, before the gray came in.
Well, thanks again girls!!!
Mary
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I let my hair dry naturally after I put mousse on it - I use Pantene. My hair is short and curly and as long as I don't touch it when it's dry, it still looks wet with definate ringlets. On a weekend, try using a mousse after washing your hair. Just apply it to your hair and "scrunch" the hair. Just remember that the way you leave it it's the way it's going to dry and look for the rest of the day. With my hair, I keep scrubbing it (the best way I can put it) until I see the style that I want.
I hope that helps! I know that you've been thinking of doing this for awhile! Congratulations!
I hope that helps! I know that you've been thinking of doing this for awhile! Congratulations!
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Stephanie - thanks! I will try that one day soon. When I have the guts....LOL
After I blow-dried it today, I asked my daughters if the very back length looked odd. It's as if I have a stacked bob, the bottom sections weren't even and they went to a point in the middle, as if it was cut into a ducktail, remember those? Ever since my hairdresser cut it this way, the back has bugged me. So I trimmed it and did a pretty good job actually! If I can dye my hair each month by using double folding doors to see the back, I figured I could do a better job than the spotty, ducktail thing I had going back there.
I don't know why she cut it this way, I even questioned it when in the chair...even Nina said when she had the flipped up look, it didn't come to a deep point in the middle. Sometimes I'm half tempted to cut my hair all the time. I've trimmed my bangs for years! Well, I'm rambling.....I will try that scrunched look Steph. Thanks.
Mary
After I blow-dried it today, I asked my daughters if the very back length looked odd. It's as if I have a stacked bob, the bottom sections weren't even and they went to a point in the middle, as if it was cut into a ducktail, remember those? Ever since my hairdresser cut it this way, the back has bugged me. So I trimmed it and did a pretty good job actually! If I can dye my hair each month by using double folding doors to see the back, I figured I could do a better job than the spotty, ducktail thing I had going back there.

Mary
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Maybe the hairdresser cut it that way so you could get a flipped up look. I've never cut my hair, but since you have the confidence to do so yourself, I'd say go for it - trim it the way you want it to go.
Another point with the "wet, scrunched" look. Gels make your hair "wetter" looking. I'd get a can of cheaper stuff and try that as well.
Another point with the "wet, scrunched" look. Gels make your hair "wetter" looking. I'd get a can of cheaper stuff and try that as well.
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Stephanie - I found an old VO5 brand gel under the girl's sink. Nina has all sorts of discarded products under there. LOL So I'll try that. Laura said I have one more section to trim up in the back. She keeps pointing it out - okay, okay I get the point. Teens! Gotta love them. I've been known to take scissors to my hair quite a number of times actually. I've always said if I could only really be able to cut it each month, then I'd be really happy. I can do the front and sides, no problem. The back is tricky.
Yes I'm such an easy customer to please in that chair, huh?
I am picky, but I don't hide that fact. I have never given a hair dresser free will with my hair. Yikes! You'd have to hypnotize me first before I did that!
Mary
Yes I'm such an easy customer to please in that chair, huh?

Mary
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Mary, you want my hair... straight, extremely fine, with very little volume! I own a brush, but I only use it when I need to look dressy... otherwise, my hair dries so fast that I don't need to brush it out. Oh yea, and the curling iron curls... that's a funny story! My hair does WHATEVER it wants to do! Ironically, the ends flare out with the wind. Sometimes, it helps to lie down on a couch and to tuck the ends/back over to get that flare look. I wish I could help you out...
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Shannon - that's okay, thanks anyway. Update on my hairstyle - I've finally decided the flip out or up look just isn't for me. I'm forcing my hair to do what it doesn't want to do. And I was never into products anyway, hated all of them. Most I'd permit my hairdresser to use while styling was mousse! Hate hairspray with a passion. I just know if I had to apply wax or pomade to make it flip up, it just wouldn't feel like my hair! Even my kids agree - keep it the way I like and the way it looks best, a simple, pointe cut bob.
Now that said, there was one hairstyle Courteney Cox had during Friends's run. But it was early on, Season 2 I want to say. When her character was dating Richard. It was all slightly turned under, piecy looking and very jagged. I've tried finding a picture like that and could never find one. Then of course as Friends concluded last month, so many tribute magazines were published honoring the show. And bingo, there's a picture of CC in that cut!!! Finally, I am armed with a picture of what I want.
I still wish I had the guts to cut my own hair. Have to say I whacked off 1/2 inch from this last cut, on the very-very back, that seemed out of place. And it came to sharp point, almost an older styled ducktail! That had to go. My girls just laugh when I take scissors to my hair. Thank goodness I have bi-fold mirrored doors to my closet. That's what I use to color the back each month. Otherwise I'd have striped hair!!!
Mary
Now that said, there was one hairstyle Courteney Cox had during Friends's run. But it was early on, Season 2 I want to say. When her character was dating Richard. It was all slightly turned under, piecy looking and very jagged. I've tried finding a picture like that and could never find one. Then of course as Friends concluded last month, so many tribute magazines were published honoring the show. And bingo, there's a picture of CC in that cut!!! Finally, I am armed with a picture of what I want.
I still wish I had the guts to cut my own hair. Have to say I whacked off 1/2 inch from this last cut, on the very-very back, that seemed out of place. And it came to sharp point, almost an older styled ducktail! That had to go. My girls just laugh when I take scissors to my hair. Thank goodness I have bi-fold mirrored doors to my closet. That's what I use to color the back each month. Otherwise I'd have striped hair!!!
Mary
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LOL!!
Trust me, on days like today (it's 70 this early in the morn in IOWA- lol) I wish my hair was short.... but I just can't part ways with it, and it wouldnt look good if I did, so I just have to suffer the extra heat!
Mary, I know how it is to force your hair to do something it doesn't want to do, mine is getting so long straight is the only option, lol! Do what you are comfortable with, and you will look great!
Annette mentioned Redken, and I am shocked that I didn't mention it myself- that line is a GODSEND!! Their hairspray (though not cheap) is the one spray that will hold my hair when I curl it! I'm half-tempted to go out and buy a bottle, but it's too hot in here to spend an hour with a curling iron so I think I'll pass for today...
Trust me, on days like today (it's 70 this early in the morn in IOWA- lol) I wish my hair was short.... but I just can't part ways with it, and it wouldnt look good if I did, so I just have to suffer the extra heat!
Mary, I know how it is to force your hair to do something it doesn't want to do, mine is getting so long straight is the only option, lol! Do what you are comfortable with, and you will look great!
Annette mentioned Redken, and I am shocked that I didn't mention it myself- that line is a GODSEND!! Their hairspray (though not cheap) is the one spray that will hold my hair when I curl it! I'm half-tempted to go out and buy a bottle, but it's too hot in here to spend an hour with a curling iron so I think I'll pass for today...

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Oh, I also ONLY use Aussie products on my hair. Kinda expensive, but as much as I bleach my hair and since I may wash it two to three times a day, I need something that really deep conditions so it all doesn't fall out from abuse. Plus, they don't test on animals.
Prolly why I keep mine so short is becuz it grows really fast and if I didn't I couldn't afford the three boxes of hair color every six weeks.
Prolly why I keep mine so short is becuz it grows really fast and if I didn't I couldn't afford the three boxes of hair color every six weeks.
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Jackie girl... I know all about the butt length hair girl!!! Up untill last month my hair was under my butt (I used to sit on it) Its extremely thick and tends to be frizzy. I would love to have short hair, but my hubby said NO way, and mine just grows to fast to keep a decent style. Anyway, I cut it up to above my bust line, and it feels great! After 3 years of really long hair my head feels way lighter and I have discovered my headaches must have been affected by the weight on my head all the time. Since I have had it cut it they have diminished significantly.
As far as product goes... the only things I use in my hair is garnier fructise (fantastic stuff) and Biosilk!!! If you have dry hair, there is nothing I can reccomend more. Biosilk is amazing stuff, especially if you color your hair! Do any of you home color your hair??? I had auburn\brunette color, I decided to try go lighter, well I now have a skunk line every 3 weeks, and its just getting way to expensive for the salon to keep doing my roots, anyone got any home reccomendations?
As far as product goes... the only things I use in my hair is garnier fructise (fantastic stuff) and Biosilk!!! If you have dry hair, there is nothing I can reccomend more. Biosilk is amazing stuff, especially if you color your hair! Do any of you home color your hair??? I had auburn\brunette color, I decided to try go lighter, well I now have a skunk line every 3 weeks, and its just getting way to expensive for the salon to keep doing my roots, anyone got any home reccomendations?
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