BREAKING NEWS: Kerry picks Edwards
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I saw it at fox news and surely IMO it will rallie the democratic base but will it atract the swing voters?
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Of all nutty things -- the local news was reporting on speculation of who it might be during the regular Houston newscast (pre-morning shows). Then I hear "This is a special report from ABC News" and my heart drops because I get a little worried that it's bad national breaking news, then it hits me, "Duh, it's probably this Kerry BS."
Sure enough...blah, blah, blah...Edwards...blah, blah, blah.
Time to hit the shower. The news just got old.
Sure enough...blah, blah, blah...Edwards...blah, blah, blah.
Time to hit the shower. The news just got old.
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GalvestonDuck wrote:Of all nutty things -- the local news was reporting on speculation of who it might be during the regular Houston newscast (pre-morning shows). Then I hear "This is a special report from ABC News" and my heart drops because I get a little worried that it's bad national breaking news, then it hits me, "Duh, it's probably this Kerry BS."
Sure enough...blah, blah, blah...Edwards...blah, blah, blah.
Time to hit the shower. The news just got old.
Hey GD I recommend you and others who may not want to see all day news about Kerry to not tune to any channel maybe the exception fox because ALL DAY LONG they will be with that.
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GalvestonDuck wrote:Of all nutty things -- the local news was reporting on speculation of who it might be during the regular Houston newscast (pre-morning shows). Then I hear "This is a special report from ABC News" and my heart drops because I get a little worried that it's bad national breaking news, then it hits me, "Duh, it's probably this Kerry BS."
Sure enough...blah, blah, blah...Edwards...blah, blah, blah.
Time to hit the shower. The news just got old.
LOL! Better leave the TV off today and the rest of the week then.
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Lindaloo wrote:Not a shocker. IMO, the South will not fall for a liar like Edwards regardless of his accent.
Linda, I am curious, what has Edwards lied about?
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When he was running for the Democratic ticket for President he collected the biggest donations in the form of $2000.00 checks (the biggest allowed) than any of the rest of them. Where do you think MOST of those donations came from? TRIAL LAWYERS!! They donate lots of money to the Democrats for their own special interests! Wonder why? Their livelihoods depend on a Dem in office.
At least Bush was open about his campaign finances.
At least Bush was open about his campaign finances.
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But that isn't a lie.
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It is a lie because he said this and it was even put out there by his own Press Secretary.
Jennifer Palmieri, had this to say to us last month: “Sen. Edwards is a leader in campaign finance reform. He has committed to the public finance system, proposed bold new ethics standards as a candidate . . . and has gone beyond what the law requires by refusing to accept any contributions from lobbyists. Every donation he receives is duly reported.”
Jennifer Palmieri, had this to say to us last month: “Sen. Edwards is a leader in campaign finance reform. He has committed to the public finance system, proposed bold new ethics standards as a candidate . . . and has gone beyond what the law requires by refusing to accept any contributions from lobbyists. Every donation he receives is duly reported.”
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I see. And I understand, but I don't think that he is receiving the $$ from the lobbyists, just trial lawyers outside of Washington. Maybe I am off somewhere. 
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Edwards takes lobbyists' gifts, using loophole
3-2-04
By Sharon Theimer, Associated Press Writer
News & Record
Posted 7:35 a.m.
WASHINGTON (AP) - While Democrat John Edwards boasts that he hasn't taken a dime from Washington lobbyists for his presidential campaign, he has accepted thousands of dollars from people in the capital's lobbying profession or their spouses and children.
The givers range from former Clinton White House chief of staff John Podesta, a registered Washington lobbyist, to the head of the National Education Association, the nation's premier teachers' lobby, an Associated Press review of Edwards' campaign finance reports found.
Edwards' campaign said it accepted the money because the donors weren't registered to represent a specific client at the time of their donation, even though they may have been listed as Washington lobbyists beforehand or afterward.
"Senator Edwards' policy is to refuse money from people who might lobby in front of him or other government officials," campaign spokeswoman Kim Rubey said.
Podesta was registered to lobby with his brother's lobbying business in 2002 and registered anew in January to lobby for two new tax-exempt think tanks he formed. In between, he gave a $500 check to Edwards.
"This is not the plank in his platform that caused me to want to give him any money," Podesta said of Edwards' position that lobbyists have corrupted politics and should be banned from donating to candidates.
Edwards' definition of lobbyist hinges on whether someone meets the government's threshold for formally registering as a lobbyist, based on money earned or time and money spent seeking to influence Congress or the Bush administration.
Even if donors lobby at the state level or run firms or organizations that lobby Congress, their money is accepted by Edwards as long as they are not personally registered.
For instance, Edwards, a member of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, received a $500 donation from National Education Association executive director John Wilson. Wilson himself isn't a registered lobbyist, but the union he runs spends roughly $1 million a year lobbying in the nation's capital.
Wilson, who used to lobby for a teachers group in Edwards' home state of North Carolina, said he has known Edwards for years and considers himself a friend.
"Generally, there have been times when he's called me and asked my opinion on something," Wilson said. "He's just someone who naturally is a strong supporter so I've never really felt the need to ask him for any special vote or that kind of thing."
Edwards' portrayal of himself as a Washington outsider annoys the Democratic front-runner, John Kerry, who pointed out in a debate Sunday that Edwards has been in the Senate for the past five years: "That seems to me to be Washington, D.C.," Kerry said.
Edwards accepted $2,000 from Washington powerbroker Vernon Jordan, a partner in Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, a law and lobbying firm that earns millions each year lobbying for clients. Jordan is a longtime friend and adviser of former President Clinton.
Edwards received $2,000 from Sandy Berger, a former Clinton national security adviser who is now chairman of Stonebridge International, a Washington consulting firm whose work in the past year includes lobbying for companies interested in business opportunities in Iraq. Berger himself doesn't lobby, a spokeswoman said.
Edwards accepted $2,000 from Mary Margaret Valenti, wife of top Hollywood lobbyist Jack Valenti, head of the Motion Picture Association of America. The Valentis also each gave $2,000 to Kerry.
"I can tell you without a doubt they are both friends and friendly with both the Kerrys and the Edwardses," MPAA spokesman Rich Taylor said of the Valentis.
Edwards received $2,000 from Theodore Downey, a college student and son of Washington lobbyist and former New York Democratic Rep. Thomas Downey, chairman of the Downey McGrath Group lobbying firm.
Theodore Downey is an Edwards family friend and has baby-sat for Edwards' children, Rubey said.
Edwards chose the co-founder of a lobbying firm, political consultant Nick Baldick, to run his campaign. Baldick gave $2,000 to Edwards' campaign.
The Sullivan & Baldick firm's clients over the past year included Merck-Medco, which lobbied on legislation that added a prescription drug benefit to Medicare, and Freddie Mac, a mortgage giant under congressional scrutiny after an accounting scandal.
Also giving Edwards $2,000 was Judith Thedford, who is married to Washington lobbyist Bill Oldaker; and Carol Berman, wife of Michael Berman, who is president of The Duberstein Group lobby firm and a former aide to then-Vice President Walter Mondale.
Source: News-Record.com
Yeah stormie..... NO BIG DEAL!!
3-2-04
By Sharon Theimer, Associated Press Writer
News & Record
Posted 7:35 a.m.
WASHINGTON (AP) - While Democrat John Edwards boasts that he hasn't taken a dime from Washington lobbyists for his presidential campaign, he has accepted thousands of dollars from people in the capital's lobbying profession or their spouses and children.
The givers range from former Clinton White House chief of staff John Podesta, a registered Washington lobbyist, to the head of the National Education Association, the nation's premier teachers' lobby, an Associated Press review of Edwards' campaign finance reports found.
Edwards' campaign said it accepted the money because the donors weren't registered to represent a specific client at the time of their donation, even though they may have been listed as Washington lobbyists beforehand or afterward.
"Senator Edwards' policy is to refuse money from people who might lobby in front of him or other government officials," campaign spokeswoman Kim Rubey said.
Podesta was registered to lobby with his brother's lobbying business in 2002 and registered anew in January to lobby for two new tax-exempt think tanks he formed. In between, he gave a $500 check to Edwards.
"This is not the plank in his platform that caused me to want to give him any money," Podesta said of Edwards' position that lobbyists have corrupted politics and should be banned from donating to candidates.
Edwards' definition of lobbyist hinges on whether someone meets the government's threshold for formally registering as a lobbyist, based on money earned or time and money spent seeking to influence Congress or the Bush administration.
Even if donors lobby at the state level or run firms or organizations that lobby Congress, their money is accepted by Edwards as long as they are not personally registered.
For instance, Edwards, a member of the Senate Health, Education, Labor and Pensions Committee, received a $500 donation from National Education Association executive director John Wilson. Wilson himself isn't a registered lobbyist, but the union he runs spends roughly $1 million a year lobbying in the nation's capital.
Wilson, who used to lobby for a teachers group in Edwards' home state of North Carolina, said he has known Edwards for years and considers himself a friend.
"Generally, there have been times when he's called me and asked my opinion on something," Wilson said. "He's just someone who naturally is a strong supporter so I've never really felt the need to ask him for any special vote or that kind of thing."
Edwards' portrayal of himself as a Washington outsider annoys the Democratic front-runner, John Kerry, who pointed out in a debate Sunday that Edwards has been in the Senate for the past five years: "That seems to me to be Washington, D.C.," Kerry said.
Edwards accepted $2,000 from Washington powerbroker Vernon Jordan, a partner in Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld, a law and lobbying firm that earns millions each year lobbying for clients. Jordan is a longtime friend and adviser of former President Clinton.
Edwards received $2,000 from Sandy Berger, a former Clinton national security adviser who is now chairman of Stonebridge International, a Washington consulting firm whose work in the past year includes lobbying for companies interested in business opportunities in Iraq. Berger himself doesn't lobby, a spokeswoman said.
Edwards accepted $2,000 from Mary Margaret Valenti, wife of top Hollywood lobbyist Jack Valenti, head of the Motion Picture Association of America. The Valentis also each gave $2,000 to Kerry.
"I can tell you without a doubt they are both friends and friendly with both the Kerrys and the Edwardses," MPAA spokesman Rich Taylor said of the Valentis.
Edwards received $2,000 from Theodore Downey, a college student and son of Washington lobbyist and former New York Democratic Rep. Thomas Downey, chairman of the Downey McGrath Group lobbying firm.
Theodore Downey is an Edwards family friend and has baby-sat for Edwards' children, Rubey said.
Edwards chose the co-founder of a lobbying firm, political consultant Nick Baldick, to run his campaign. Baldick gave $2,000 to Edwards' campaign.
The Sullivan & Baldick firm's clients over the past year included Merck-Medco, which lobbied on legislation that added a prescription drug benefit to Medicare, and Freddie Mac, a mortgage giant under congressional scrutiny after an accounting scandal.
Also giving Edwards $2,000 was Judith Thedford, who is married to Washington lobbyist Bill Oldaker; and Carol Berman, wife of Michael Berman, who is president of The Duberstein Group lobby firm and a former aide to then-Vice President Walter Mondale.
Source: News-Record.com
Yeah stormie..... NO BIG DEAL!!
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