Hundreds of Americans Missing in Asia

[Ivanova]

Hundreds of Americans Missing in Asia

"... the Navy also is dispatching the USS Abraham Lincoln
carrier strike group and the USS Bonhomme Richard
expeditionary strike group to the area. "

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=s ... e/us_quake

They say that the US Navy base on the island of Diego Garcia
was unaffected... but the island is 4 to 22 feet above sea level...
in dead center of the Indian Ocean... and right in the path of the
deadly tsunami

So, you have to wonder.



Here is link to map and photos of Diego Garcia:

http://members.tripod.com/~cartoonlife/diegoinfo.html




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[Ivanova]

USS Lincoln Heads For South Asia

POSTED: 12:45 pm PST December 28, 2004

EVERETT, Wash. -- The Everett-based aircraft carrier Lincoln has been ordered to head for the tsunami-devasted region of south Asia to offer assistance.

The ship was on a port call in Hong Kong on Sunday when the quake and tidal wave hit eleven nations around the Indian Ocean.

The Lincoln has a crew of 5,500, including the air crews.

The military also is sending five ships from Guam, and flying in surveillance planes and cargo planes to Thailand.


http://www.kirotv.com/news/4030309/detail.html

[Ivanova]

Three days later and large aftershocks continue
in the area... the latest, 5.8, 6.1 & 6.2... at least,
I guess these are aftershocks... they seem to
be increasing in intensity :eek:

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/



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[Miss Mary]

Whoa, Eastern Tennessee had one on December 23rd!

Thanks for the link. Going to bookmark in fact.

Haven't heard anything in the news about Mt. St. Helens lately. Does anyone know if activity is still being detected there? Sure looked like it would blow recently. Almost hate to voice those thoughts...

Mary

[Ivanova]

Three days later and large aftershocks continue
in the area... the latest, 5.8, 6.1 & 6.2... at least,
I guess these are aftershocks... they seem to
be increasing in intensity :eek:

http://neic.usgs.gov/neis/bulletin/

This earthquake
isn't going to pull
a hurricane Ivan,
and come back
for an
encore performance,
is it :eek:



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[Ivanova]

Aftershocks rattle Andaman and Nicobar islands

[India News]: New Delhi, Dec 29 :

Andaman and Nicobar Islands continued to be rattled by earthquakes with a series of strong aftershocks measuring between 5.1 and 6.1 on Richter Scale being recorded since last night in the region already devastated by Sunday's temblor and Tsunami tidal waves.

So far over 55 aftershocks have rocked the region after the Sunday's massive earthquake.


http://www.newkerala.com/news-daily/new ... s&id=51908



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[Ivanova]

Haven't heard anything in the news about Mt. St. Helens lately. Does anyone know if activity is still being detected there? Sure looked like it would blow recently. Almost hate to voice those thoughts...

Looks like several earthquakes at Mt St Helens on 12-25-04...
the last one being 2.4 mag & a 2.5 mag earthquake on 12-26-04....
"Last update: Sun Dec 26 12:31:38 PST 2004" ... ??

No data available since then ??


http://www.pnsn.org/HELENS/helensep_mo.html

http://www.pnsn.org/HELENS/onemonthtable.helens


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[Ivanova]

"

Recent Mount Rainier Earthquakes

http://www.pnsn.org/RAINIER/rainrec_eqs.html


Recent Mount Hood Earthquakes

http://www.pnsn.org/HOOD/hoodrec_eqs.html


Recent Three Sisters Earthquakes

http://www.pnsn.org/SISTERS/sistersrec_eqs.html



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[Ivanova]

Death toll reaches 100,000


29 December 2004


The death toll in the tsunami disaster soared past 100,000 today -
and is set to climb higher.


http://www.thisislondon.com/news/articl ... ndard&ct=5



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[Aslkahuna]

No we are not going see a repeat of the main shock in that area. This is just a normal aftershock sequence that occurs after a big shocks as the readjustment of the area that slipped continues before it gets locked again and begins the strain buildup.

Steve

[Ivanova]

WHAT did the US military know...
and WHEN did they know it

DIEGO GARCIA: How did it escape harm ?

How did Diego Garcia, the British-owned island in the Indian Ocean and home of a US base for B2 bombers, escape the effects of the tsunami?

The island, 1,000 miles south of India and well within range of the wave, has a highest point of 22ft and an average elevation of 4ft, yet a spokesman for the US Pacific Command in Hawaii said that the base had not been harmed. Officials at the US Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre in Hawaii said Diego Garcia had been forewarned. Other countries were not, apparently because of a lack of contact details over a holiday weekend. "

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/asi ... ory=596628

"... there was the rumour that the US military base at Diego Garcia was forewarned of the impending disaster and — presumably because of some CIA-approved plot to undermine Islamic movements in Indonesia and Thailand — did nothing about it. "


http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0, ... 83,00.html

"Why was there no warning?

There was warning. Here's how the folks at Democracy Now describe what happened: "Within minutes of the tsunami forming on Sunday, U.S. officials at the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center in Hawaii began tracking the waves. But the scientists claimed they had no one to contact in the Indian Ocean region about the possible danger. One exception was the British-owned island of Diego Garcia that houses a major US Naval base. The Independent of London reports that U.S. officials in Hawaii did warn Diego Garcia about the possible tsunami and the island suffered no major damage."


Could any of the affected countries done anything?

It might have helped if U.S. scientists in Hawaii hadn't initially calculated the earthquake at a magnitude of 8.0 (ten times weaker than in actuality). "Based on it being an 8.0, we assumed the damage would be confined to Sumatra and would be a local tsunami event," said Charles McCreery, director of the Pacific Tsunami Warning Center, "one that strikes shore within minutes of the event." But even so, we must never forget that profits outweigh people. An official in Thailand's meteorology department told the Guardian of London, "A proper warning was not given. If we had given the warning and then it hadn't happened, then it would have been the death of tourism in those areas."


http://www.counterpunch.org/mickey12292004.html

[Brent]

You've got to be kidding...

[Ivanova]

The US is now in a catch 22



1) Admit to damage ?

2) Explain why they got
advance warning when
no one else did ?

3) Both ?


btw... you notice the first two quotes
are from the Brits.... hey, they own
the island, don't they


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[streetsoldier]

Yes, but the UK sources cited have an editorial stance far to the left of Marx, and slightly to the right of Che Guevara; hardly "authoritative".

[yoda]

Yes, but the UK sources cited have an editorial stance far to the left of Marx, and slightly to the right of Che Guevara; hardly "authoritative".

Never heard of him/her... I guess I will have to look that up.

[Brent]

The US is now in a catch 22



1) Admit to damage ?

2) Explain why they got
advance warning when
no one else did ?

3) Both ?


btw... you notice the first two quotes
are from the Brits.... hey, they own
the island, don't they


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Have you watched the news at all? The U.S. sent warnings to more than 20 nations in that part of the world about a possible Tsunami. Most of the governments ignored(Thailand said it would HURT THEIR TOURISM!) and some say they did not get the warning.

It wouldn't have made a difference anyway... those are Third-World countries. In Indonesia the Tsunami hit within an hour of the quake.

[Ivanova]

Have you watched the news at all? The U.S. sent warnings to more than 20 nations in that part of the world about a possible Tsunami. Most of the governments ignored (Thailand said it would HURT THEIR TOURISM!) and some say they did not get the warning.

Why don't you tell this to the jounalists I am quoting...
someone is lying... it will be interesting to see who



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[Ivanova]

No warning for wave victims


December 28, 2004

A TSUNAMI warning that could have saved thousands of lives was issued but not acted upon more than an hour before giant waves hit Sri Lanka and southern India.

As the death toll in all countries affected rose to more than 22,800 yesterday, experts in Honolulu admitted they had forecast the disaster within 15 minutes of Sunday's earthquake off the coast of Sumatra but did not know who to pass the information to.

The dire news emerged as soldiers searched for bodies in treetops, families wept over the dead lined up on beaches and rescuers scoured coral isles for missing tourists yesterday.

A six-month-old baby torn from her father's arms on a Thai beach was one of two Australians confirmed dead last night. At least five others are missing -- two in Indonesia, two in Thailand and one in Sri Lanka.

The countries that bore the brunt of Sunday's tsunami had no notice of what was coming but the earthquake, the largest for 40 years, had been monitored by the Pacific Tsunami Warning Centre in Honolulu.

"We don't have contacts in our address book for anybody in that part of the world," National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration director Charles McCreery said. "

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/co ... 01,00.html

[Ivanova]

WHAT did the US military know...
and WHEN did they know it

Here is interesting info...
seems the US military base on Diago Garcia
has their own seismic equipment...
a well known secret ??

http://www1.gly.bris.ac.uk/~george/nois ... ngday.html


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[lurkey]

About Diego Garcia . .. from another forum --

"As a tsunami leaves the deep water of the open sea and propagates into the more shallow waters near the coast, it undergoes a transformation. Since the speed of the tsunami is related to the water depth, as the depth of the water decreases, the speed of the tsunami diminishes. The change of total energy of the tsunami remains constant. Therefore, the speed of the tsunami decreases as it enters shallower water, and the height of the wave grows. Because of this "shoaling" effect, a tsunami that was imperceptible in deep water may grow to be several feet or more in height."

More at http://www.wcatwc.gov/physics.htm

further translated into somewhat non-techno babble English:

Tsunamis tend to be higher when the wave can move across extensive shallow water immediately offshore. Although the mathematics is indubitably complicated, the bathymetry of the island approach might deflect a significant portion of the longitudinal wave around the island.

. . . .but it does make sense that islands with steeply sloped bathymetry would experience, on balance, lesser effects. The inhabited, military portions of Diego Garcia probably is quite well elevated above the sea surface, in stark contrast to beach-front dwellings in other parts of the world.

and further on:

Near the island, there is a reef and shallower water in the reef.....would not the tsunami rise up because of this?

The reef may have protected the island and bore the brunt of the tsunami.

As for the seismic equipment: Apparently Diego Garcia had an earthquake in 1983 and it is located on an ancient volcano.


More Info on Diego Garcia